why do some arab leaders believe that they descendents of the Prophet (PBUH)?

Islam!!yay

Junior Member
:salam2:

  • Abdullah II bin al-Hussein says his the 44th generation of Prophet Mohammed
  • I think Saddam Hussein believed he was a descendant of the Prophet (PBUH)
  • Mohammed VI of Morocco also says he's descendant of the Prophet (PBUH)

There Could be more people that claim that they are descendants of the Prophet but I have no knowledge of that for sure. Those three are the only ones I know that claim to be Descendants of Prophet Mohammed (PBUH)

So do you believe them when they claim that they are descendants? could have they falsified their family tree ?
 

revert2007

Love Fishing
Assalamualikum.
It is true the descendants do exist and it is undeniable(from his pbuh grandchildren Hussein or Hassan).Yet the issue is not about them being descendants but the issue is how close are they to sunnah prophet Muhammad pbuh?

Do you know why Prophet Muhammad pbuh lost his son?In sha Allah to avoide this kind of issue.

Being a good Muslim and honorable Muslim is not about being the descendant but to follow the Quran and Sunnah as much as possible.Allah will not going to judge us according to our descendants but according to our worship.Muhammad pbuh is not going to give shafa according to his descendants but according to our worship in sha Allah.

I really don't care if someone claim they are descendants.So what?We are all Muslims and the only thing differ us is our deeds and only Allah knows it in sha Allah :)

Allah knows the best.
Assalamualikum
 

dna1987

Muslim Guy
^ Assalam alaikum,
One of the brothers was telling me that the descendants of the Prophet (pbuh) have certain rights and responsibilites. I can't remember all of them, but one I do remember is that they cannot receive any Zakat money, even if they are poor. Anyways, if they really do have different rights and responsibilites, then surely whether someone is a descendant or not is actually important, right?

I'm just as confused about it, hopefully someone can post some useful information.
 

al-muslimah

Junior Member
Because probably they are descendent's of the Prophet (PBUH).

BTW brother dna1897 has said something about rights and responsibilities toward the people who are descendent's of the prophet, it would be great if someone shed light on this please.
 

arzafar

Junior Member
yes i also want some more info about this issue.
my family call ourselves qureshi or sheikhs. how can i make sure whether my family is a descendant of the quraish tribe.
 

Majzoob

New Member
According to registered documents I became certain that I am a descendant of the prophet, peace be upon him, by the grace of Allah. I know that the prophet’s family members (ahl al-bayt) are not permitted to eat from what is given in charity.

What is the ruling on drinking water or eating dates or meals distributed in the sacred masjid, or given in the season of Hajj or Ramadan? Are these considered gifts or charity?.


Praise be to Allaah.

The scholars are unanimously agreed that it is not permissible for the family of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to eat from the obligatory zakaah. This consensus was narrated by more than one scholar.

See: Mawsoo’at al-Ijmaa’ by Sa’di Abu Jayb (2/517-518).

With regard to voluntary charity, most scholars are of the view that it is permissible for the family of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to take from it. This is the well known view of the madhhabs of the four imams of fiqh (Abu Haneefah, Maalik, al-Shaafa’i and Ahmad, may Allaah have mercy on them all).

See: Radd al-Muhtaar (2/351), al-Taaj wa’l-Ikleel (3/223), Mughni al-Muhtaaj (4/195), Kashshaaf al-Qinaa’ (2/291-292).

Imam al-Shaafa’i (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

Voluntary charity is not haraam for the family of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him); rather it is only obligatory zakaah that is forbidden for them.

Ibraaheem ibn Muhammad told us, from Ja’far [al-Saadiq] ibn Muhammad [al-Baaqir] from his father that he used to drink of the water provided to people in Makkah and Madeenah and I said to him: Are you drinking from the sadaqah (charity) when it is not permissible for you? He said: It is only the obligatory charity (i.e., zakaah) that is forbidden to us.

Al-Shaafa’i said: ‘Ali and Faatimah gave charity to Bani Haashim and Banu’l-Muttalib, and this was voluntary charity, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) accepted a gift from the charity that was given to Bareerah, because it was given voluntarily by Bareerah and not as zakaah. End quote.

Al-Umm (2/88).

Ibn Qudaamah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

It is permissible for the relatives [of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)] to take from voluntary charity.

Ahmad said, according to the report of Ibn al-Qaasim; rather they should not be given anything of the obligatory charity [zakaah]. But as for voluntary charity, it is not forbidden. There is another report from Ahmad which says that they were also forbidden voluntary charity, because of the general meaning of the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “Charity is not permissible for us.”

But the first view is more correct, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Any act of kindness [ma’roof] is an act of charity.” Agreed upon. And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “But if anyone remits the retaliation by way of charity, it shall be for him an expiation” [al-Maa’idah 5:45] and “but if you remit it by way of charity, that is better for you if you did but know” [al-Baqarah 2:280]. There is no difference of scholarly opinion that it is permissible to do acts of kindness for a Haashimi, or let him off, or allow him more time to pay a debt. And the brothers of Yoosuf said (interpretation of the meaning): “and be charitable to us” [Yoosuf 12:88].

What is meant in the report [i.e., the hadeeth] is obligatory charity [zakaah]. End quote.

Al-Mughni (2/275).

Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked:

We are a family of moderate means, and are of the family of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). We have documents to prove that. My father has reached the age of sixty, and meets the conditions of applying for social security. We asked our father to avail himself of social security but he refused, because there is a hadeeth from the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) which states that zakaah and charity should not be given to the members of his family. My question: is social security regarded as coming under the same heading as zakaah or not? Please advise me.

He replied:

If your father meets the conditions for applying for social security, then it is permissible for him to take it, because it is help from the bayt al-maal to the poor who fulfil the conditions mentioned, and it is not zakaah, according to information provided by the authorities. End quote.

Majmoo’ Fataawa Ibn Baaz (14/314). See also (14/313).

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

If the charity is voluntary charity, then it may be given to them and there is nothing wrong with that. But if it is obligatory charity then it should not be given to them. End quote.

Majmoo’at Fataawa Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (18/429).

Based on this, there is nothing wrong with you eating from the food that is distributed in the two Holy Sanctuaries and the Hajj sites, because that is not zakaah.

And Allaah knows best.
 

Majzoob

New Member
According to registered documents I became certain that I am a descendant of the prophet, peace be upon him, by the grace of Allah. I know that the prophet’s family members (ahl al-bayt) are not permitted to eat from what is given in charity.

What is the ruling on drinking water or eating dates or meals distributed in the sacred masjid, or given in the season of Hajj or Ramadan? Are these considered gifts or charity?.


Praise be to Allaah.

The scholars are unanimously agreed that it is not permissible for the family of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to eat from the obligatory zakaah. This consensus was narrated by more than one scholar.

See: Mawsoo’at al-Ijmaa’ by Sa’di Abu Jayb (2/517-518).

With regard to voluntary charity, most scholars are of the view that it is permissible for the family of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to take from it. This is the well known view of the madhhabs of the four imams of fiqh (Abu Haneefah, Maalik, al-Shaafa’i and Ahmad, may Allaah have mercy on them all).

See: Radd al-Muhtaar (2/351), al-Taaj wa’l-Ikleel (3/223), Mughni al-Muhtaaj (4/195), Kashshaaf al-Qinaa’ (2/291-292).

Imam al-Shaafa’i (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

Voluntary charity is not haraam for the family of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him); rather it is only obligatory zakaah that is forbidden for them.

Ibraaheem ibn Muhammad told us, from Ja’far [al-Saadiq] ibn Muhammad [al-Baaqir] from his father that he used to drink of the water provided to people in Makkah and Madeenah and I said to him: Are you drinking from the sadaqah (charity) when it is not permissible for you? He said: It is only the obligatory charity (i.e., zakaah) that is forbidden to us.

Al-Shaafa’i said: ‘Ali and Faatimah gave charity to Bani Haashim and Banu’l-Muttalib, and this was voluntary charity, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) accepted a gift from the charity that was given to Bareerah, because it was given voluntarily by Bareerah and not as zakaah. End quote.

Al-Umm (2/88).

Ibn Qudaamah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

It is permissible for the relatives [of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)] to take from voluntary charity.

Ahmad said, according to the report of Ibn al-Qaasim; rather they should not be given anything of the obligatory charity [zakaah]. But as for voluntary charity, it is not forbidden. There is another report from Ahmad which says that they were also forbidden voluntary charity, because of the general meaning of the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “Charity is not permissible for us.”

But the first view is more correct, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Any act of kindness [ma’roof] is an act of charity.” Agreed upon. And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “But if anyone remits the retaliation by way of charity, it shall be for him an expiation” [al-Maa’idah 5:45] and “but if you remit it by way of charity, that is better for you if you did but know” [al-Baqarah 2:280]. There is no difference of scholarly opinion that it is permissible to do acts of kindness for a Haashimi, or let him off, or allow him more time to pay a debt. And the brothers of Yoosuf said (interpretation of the meaning): “and be charitable to us” [Yoosuf 12:88].

What is meant in the report [i.e., the hadeeth] is obligatory charity [zakaah]. End quote.

Al-Mughni (2/275).

Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked:

We are a family of moderate means, and are of the family of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). We have documents to prove that. My father has reached the age of sixty, and meets the conditions of applying for social security. We asked our father to avail himself of social security but he refused, because there is a hadeeth from the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) which states that zakaah and charity should not be given to the members of his family. My question: is social security regarded as coming under the same heading as zakaah or not? Please advise me.

He replied:

If your father meets the conditions for applying for social security, then it is permissible for him to take it, because it is help from the bayt al-maal to the poor who fulfil the conditions mentioned, and it is not zakaah, according to information provided by the authorities. End quote.

Majmoo’ Fataawa Ibn Baaz (14/314). See also (14/313).

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

If the charity is voluntary charity, then it may be given to them and there is nothing wrong with that. But if it is obligatory charity then it should not be given to them. End quote.

Majmoo’at Fataawa Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (18/429).

Based on this, there is nothing wrong with you eating from the food that is distributed in the two Holy Sanctuaries and the Hajj sites, because that is not zakaah.

And Allaah knows best.

Source:IslamQA
 

Majzoob

New Member
Apologies for the above duplication brothers and sister. Since I don't have right to edit my post, so can't do anything to delete or edit that. Here is another question regarding the family of Prophet Peace be upon him.


Is it permissible to give zakaah to Ahl al-Bayt?

Praise be to Allaah.
Ahl al-Bayt (the members of the Prophet’s household) are the tribe of ‘Abd al-Muttalib (the descendents of ‘Ali, the descendents of ‘Abbaas, the descendents of Ja’far, the descendents of ‘Aqeel, the descendents of al-Haarith and the sons of ‘Abd al-Muttalib), and their freed slaves. See al-Mawsoo’ah al-Fiqhiyyah, 1/100; al-Sharh al-Mumti’, 6/258).

It is not permissible to give zakaah to Ahl al-Bayt, because of the evidence narrated forbidding that to them, including the report narrated by Imaam Muslim (may Allaah have mercy on him) from ‘Abd al-Muttalib ibn Rabee’ah ibn al-Haarith (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Zakaah should not be given to the family of Muhammad because it is from the dirt of the people.’” (Narrated by Muslim, al-Zakaah, 1784). Al-Nawawi said concerning the phrase “Zakaah should not be given to the family of Muhammad”, this indicates that it is forbidden whether that is because of their involvement in the collection and distribution of zakaah or because of their poverty and need, or for any of the other eight reasons. This is the correct view according to our companions.

“because it is from the dirt of the people” points towards the reason for the prohibition… that is in order to honour them and demonstrate that they are above receiving any dirt. The meaning of the phrase “the dirt of the people” is because it is to purify their wealth and their souls, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“ Take Sadaqah (alms) from their wealth in order to purify them and sanctify them with it”[al-Tawbah 9:103]

So it is like washing away something dirty.

This ruling – that zakaah is forbidden for the Ahl al-Bayt – is because they have other sources from which money may be given to them if they are in need of it, such as the khums or one-fifth of war booty, people’s gifts, and others.

If these sources are no longer available to them, and some of them are in need of money and we cannot find anything other than the zakaah money, then it is permissible, indeed obligatory, to give zakaah to them, and they are more entitled to it than others, because of the Prophet’s advice to take care of them. This was the view of some of the salaf and was regarded as the more correct view by Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him), and Shaykh Muhammad al-Saalih ibn ‘Uthaymeen agreed with him.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said:

If Bani Haashim are deprived of one-fifth of the khums, it is permissible for them to receive zakaah. This is the view of al-Qaadi Ya’qoob and others among our companions. It is also the view of Abu Yoosuf and al-Istakhri among the Shaafa’is, because this is a case of need and necessity.

Al-Fataawa al-Kubra, 5/374

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

If they are deprived or there is no khums as is the case nowadays, then they may be given zakaah funds to meet their needs if they are poor and they have no work. This is the view of Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah and it is the correct view.

Al-Sharh al-Mumti’, 6/257

See al-Fataawa al-Islamiyyah, vol 2. p. 90

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, vol. 10, p. 68

And Allaah knows best. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad.


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saifkhan

abd-Allah
Salam Alaikum

There are no more descendents of Prophet Salla Allahu Alaihi wa sallam in the chest of the earth...if there any claim so, tell them they are wrong, and trying to create Fitna in the Deen, which is undoubtly pure alhamdu li Allah...or let them to claim who cares.
The only son of Prophet salla Allahu alahi was sallam had died, and Allah subhanahu wa ta'la wanted that, nobody could ever claim him/her to be a descendent of Prophet salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam.

But Alahmdu li Allah, there are thousands of millions of defenders of Prophet Salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam and his Sunnah.....
I'm one of them and I think there are many of us, Alhamdu li Allah.
Prophet alahis salatus salam said: there will be 73 sects among the Muslims and only one sect will go to Jannah, the one who will follow me and my companions......
I just thoroghly quoted the Hadeeth, hope all of us know that. He salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam told about the DEFENDER of Prophet's Sunnah, not the DESCENDENT.

And these are so clear; there is no doubt, no chance of Fitna, Inshaa'Allah

And Allah subhanahu wa ta'la knows the best.
Jazakum Allahu Khair
wassalamu alaikum
 
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