where do you want to live ANSWER

[massi]

:salam2: :salam2:
any one must live in muslim country . it's the order of allah.
any one must leave his country if it's not muslim country to a muslim country when he is ready to leave. you can find that order in quran surrah anissaà
and hadith
the profet say صلى الله عليه وسلم : I'm Disownsing with any muslim live with unbelieves
(decoy).
I'm not here to debate with any one who will say : oh it's hard ....................ect
ok all.

 

[Muhammad_A]

Make English your nation's official second language, move the entire country a bit further north and I might consider it

 

[massi]

It's seriouse convertion not a silly idea or joy
you must learn about it brother

 

[Muhammad_A]

I'm not an Arab or a Pakistani. Why should I want to live in a country where the only thing I'll have in common with anyone is my religion?

 

[oumyaquine]

:salam2: :salam2:
any one must live in muslim country . it's the order of allah.
any one must leave his country if it's not muslim country to a muslim country when he is ready to leave. you can find that order in quran surrah anissaà
and hadith
the profet say صلى الله عليه وسلم : I'm Disownsing with any muslim live with unbelieves
(decoy).
I'm not here to debate with any one who will say : oh it's hard ....................ect
ok all.

:salam2: BROTHER,DO I NEED TO TELL HOW THE REVERTED PEOPLE ARE TREATED IN MOST ARABIC COUNTRY?? I DON'T THINK SO,AND I'M PROUD OF ALL THOSE MUSLIM THAT ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE MAKING DAWA ?BUILDING MASJIDS AND ISLAMIC SCHOOL AND TRYING TO APPLY THEY RELIGION. ANYWAY I'VE LIVED IN SAUDI ARABIA FOR QUITE LONG AND MAKING EXCEPTION OF MADINAH I WOULD NEVER LIVE THERE,IT ISN'T REALLY A GOOD EXEMPLE OF HOW MUSLIM SHOULD BEHAVE,AND I KNOW MORROCCO EGyPT ETC....

 

[Muhammad_A]

You tell him bro

*Proudly carrying on the TTI tradition of getting the previous poster's gender wrong*

 

[Southrn_Muslimah]

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:salam2:

My logic would be if all the Muslims stayed in Muslim countries, then I would have never been exposed to Islam. I would of never converted. I would of never stopped drinking, doing drugs, etc..The list can go on. I think a Muslim can live wherever they want. My love for Islam grows everyday when I am surrounded by non-Muslims telling me "I am just in a fad." Of course there are benefits to living in a Muslim world. I think the true strength of your deen is being surrounded by people who criticize you everyday just like the Prophet (SAW) had stones thrown at him.

 

[Rosheen]

I was born and raised in UK, i am poor at learning languages. My life is here, with the will of Allah I have gained a better job and increasing my iman daily.

I don't need to live in a mainly muslim country to be a good muslim

 

[IslamIsLight]

salam
many of the muslim countries are muslim just by name


wasalam

 

[massi]

I'm not here to debate with my brothers and sisters about the order of allah.
1-allah say:
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ كُونُواْ قَوَّامِينَ بِالْقِسْطِ شُهَدَاء لِلّهِ وَلَوْ عَلَى أَنفُسِكُمْ أَوِ الْوَالِدَيْنِ وَالأَقْرَبِينَ إِن يَكُنْ غَنِيًّا أَوْ فَقَيرًا فَاللّهُ أَوْلَى بِهِمَا فَلاَ تَتَّبِعُواْ الْهَوَى أَن تَعْدِلُواْ وَإِن تَلْوُواْ أَوْ تُعْرِضُواْ فَإِنَّ اللّهَ كَانَ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ خَبِيرًا

O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allâh, even though it be against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, be he rich or poor, Allâh is a Better Protector to both (than you). So follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you may avoid justice, and if you distort your witness or refuse to give it, verily, Allâh is Ever Well*!Acquainted with what you do. (An-Nisa 4:135)
2-and say:
إِنَّ الَّذِينَ تَوَفَّاهُمُ الْمَلآئِكَةُ ظَالِمِي أَنْفُسِهِمْ قَالُواْ فِيمَ كُنتُمْ قَالُواْ كُنَّا مُسْتَضْعَفِينَ فِي الأَرْضِ قَالْوَاْ أَلَمْ تَكُنْ أَرْضُ اللّهِ وَاسِعَةً فَتُهَاجِرُواْ فِيهَا فَأُوْلَـئِكَ مَأْوَاهُمْ جَهَنَّمُ وَسَاءتْ مَصِيرًا

Verily! As for those whom the angels take (in death) while they are wronging themselves (as they stayed among the disbelievers even though emigration was obligatory for them), they (angels) say (to them): "In what (condition) were you?" They reply: "We were weak and oppressed on earth." They (angels) say: "Was not the earth of Allâh spacious enough for you to emigrate therein?" Such men will find their abode in Hell - What an evil destination

and frome the sunna I have said it
and I have said who is able to leave he must leave to a good county muslim
as saudi or emirat .....ect
and I don't beleive that america or europa is good than muslim countries
and when we listen to the quran and sunna we say we will do in cha allah
not ah I can't or I am an english you must give me an english muslim country.........ect .

 

[Southrn_Muslimah]

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:salam2:

And what of the story of Fudayk?

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “O Fudayk, establish prayer, avoid bad deeds, and live with your people wherever you like.” [Sahîh Ibn Hibbân (4861)]

Fudayk belonged to a tribe who were all non-Muslims. Fudayk, who had accepted Islam, used to live with them. Fudayk’s people had requested him to live with them and pledged to him that they would not impose upon him in his faith in any way.

Fudayk then went to the Prophet (peace be upon him) and asked about whether he should emigrate, saying: “O Messenger of Allah! There are people claiming that whoever does not emigrate will come to ruin.”

To this the Prophet (peace be upon him) replied: “O Fudayk, establish prayer, avoid bad deeds, and live with your people wherever you like.”

 

[IslamIsLight]

I'm not here to debate with my brothers and sisters about the order of allah.
1-allah say:
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ كُونُواْ قَوَّامِينَ بِالْقِسْطِ شُهَدَاء لِلّهِ وَلَوْ عَلَى أَنفُسِكُمْ أَوِ الْوَالِدَيْنِ وَالأَقْرَبِينَ إِن يَكُنْ غَنِيًّا أَوْ فَقَيرًا فَاللّهُ أَوْلَى بِهِمَا فَلاَ تَتَّبِعُواْ الْهَوَى أَن تَعْدِلُواْ وَإِن تَلْوُواْ أَوْ تُعْرِضُواْ فَإِنَّ اللّهَ كَانَ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ خَبِيرًا

O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allâh, even though it be against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, be he rich or poor, Allâh is a Better Protector to both (than you). So follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you may avoid justice, and if you distort your witness or refuse to give it, verily, Allâh is Ever Well*!Acquainted with what you do. (An-Nisa 4:135)
2-and say:
إِنَّ الَّذِينَ تَوَفَّاهُمُ الْمَلآئِكَةُ ظَالِمِي أَنْفُسِهِمْ قَالُواْ فِيمَ كُنتُمْ قَالُواْ كُنَّا مُسْتَضْعَفِينَ فِي الأَرْضِ قَالْوَاْ أَلَمْ تَكُنْ أَرْضُ اللّهِ وَاسِعَةً فَتُهَاجِرُواْ فِيهَا فَأُوْلَـئِكَ مَأْوَاهُمْ جَهَنَّمُ وَسَاءتْ مَصِيرًا

Verily! As for those whom the angels take (in death) while they are wronging themselves (as they stayed among the disbelievers even though emigration was obligatory for them), they (angels) say (to them): "In what (condition) were you?" They reply: "We were weak and oppressed on earth." They (angels) say: "Was not the earth of Allâh spacious enough for you to emigrate therein?" Such men will find their abode in Hell - What an evil destination

and frome the sunna I have said it
and I have said who is able to leave he must leave to a good county muslim
as saudi or emirat .....ect
and I don't beleive that america or europa is good than muslim countries
and when we listen to the quran and sunna we say we will do in cha allah
not ah I can't or I am an english you must give me an english muslim country.........ect .

To Saudi or Emirat ,Who will let me there without a husband or a gurdian...I can practise my religion here out of sincerety,not because someone told me to do it ,or just because everybody doing it as tradition....

 

[massi]

I don't ask you your opinion about an order from allah and you have to learn more and more in islam go go go :

ok my BROTHES AND SISTERS :astag:
allah said when YOU GET READY I think I'm clear . we can see our profet(PBUH) when he had gone to madinna and when he stand up above a mount he turn to mekka and say : oh mecca! you are my love country . but he go on to maddinnna.
there are many condition to stay in no muslim country :
1 study
2 daàw to allah.......ect with condition too. ok
ATTENTION : there are quran and sunna so be becaful about it.because it's not my idea or an idea from any one.
if we don't want to leave it's our probleme but it's true and again BECAFUL AICHA . WE MUST MAKE ALL PROGRESS FOR ALLAH AND ALLAH WILL SUCCEFUL US IN CHAA ALLAHE

 

[IslamIsLight]

I don't ask you your opinion about an order from allah and you have to learn more and more in islam go go go :

ok my brother :astag:
allah said when YOU GET READY I think I'm clear . we can see our profet when he had gone to madinna and when he stand up above a mount he turn to mekka and say : oh mecca! you are my love country . but he go on to maddinnna.
there are many condition to stay in no muslim country :
1 study
2 daàw to allah.......ect with condition too. ok
ATTENTION : there are quran and sunna so be becaful about it.because it's not my idea or an idea from any one.
if we don't want to leave it's our probleme but it's true and again BECAFUL AICHA . WE MUST MAKE ALL PROGRESS FOR ALLAH AND ALLAH WILL SUCCEFUL US IN CHAA ALLAHE

what do u know about me ,to tell me what to do,or telling me I don't agree with Quran and Sunnah,Is that your opnion .I dont need your judgement and warnings
We all need to learn .The one who pretends he knows everything knows nothing.....and no links on the site please

 

[BGfromGB]

Living in a muslim coumtry

I don't ask you your opinion about an order from allah and you have to learn more and more in islam go go go :

ok my BROTHES AND SISTERS :astag:
allah said when YOU GET READY I think I'm clear . we can see our profet(PBUH) when he had gone to madinna and when he stand up above a mount he turn to mekka and say : oh mecca! you are my love country . but he go on to maddinnna.
there are many condition to stay in no muslim country :
1 study
2 daàw to allah.......ect with condition too. ok
ATTENTION : there are quran and sunna so be becaful about it.because it's not my idea or an idea from any one.
if we don't want to leave it's our probleme but it's true and again BECAFUL AICHA . WE MUST MAKE ALL PROGRESS FOR ALLAH AND ALLAH WILL SUCCEFUL US IN CHAA ALLAHE

Countries which apply strict sharia laws are not attractive to westernised countries as far as tourism is concerned. It is a well known fact that tourism provides jobs for the host country. I would personally love to visit Saudi Arabia. But if my wife has to wear the traditional dress and I am not permitted to listen to (classic)music and even have a cold beer (in that hot and dry climate) at the end of the day after a day out sightseeing, or even going for a swim with my wife at the beach, then what other reason should I visit that country? None.

I have gone through Dubai and although I can have a beer, it seems that muslims are not allowed to do so. Is this correct?

 

[MOHAMMEDFALIQ]

America

I went to a masjid once and the imam said that ((allah sent us here(america)to spread islam maybe not by preaching others but by showing of ur kind muslim character))those were his words.

now brother i live in america so do millions of other muslims ...and nowadays there are muslims helping america making it stronger better and all of them are proud to become american muslims and dont want to leave their country and pray for non-muslim americans to see the light of islam and indeed thousnds of non-muslim americans convert every year

i think u miunderstood the verse brother

 

[abou haytam]

Is it obligatory for those who embrace Islam in kaafir lands to migrate (hijrah)?

Question:
What is the ruling on those who become Muslim in kaafir countries? Are they included in the hadeeth, “I have nothing to do with any Muslim who settles among the mushrikeen”? And does he have to migrate (hijrah)?.

Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.

If a person becomes a Muslim in a kaafir land and he is not able to practise his religion openly and establish regular worship, or he fears for himself tribulation regarding his religious commitment, and he cannot protect his honour, then he is obliged to migrate, because the Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I have nothing to do with any Muslim who settles among the mushrikeen. But if he is able to practise his religion openly and establish regular worship, and he is able to migrate, then it is mustahabb for him to migrate, but in this case it is not obligatory.

Ibn Qudaamah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Mughni: It is mustahabb for him (to migrate) so that he will be able to wage jihad against them – i.e., the kuffaar – and he will increase the numbers of the Muslims and support them. End quote.

But if he is able to practise his religion openly, and he is safe from fitnah (tribulation, temptation), and he can call people to Allaah and teach the Muslims about their religion, then he may stay and not migrate, because his staying there serves an interest. When Maalik ibn al-Huwayrith (may Allaah be pleased with him) and his companions came to the Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and stayed with him, when the Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) noticed that they were missing their families, he told them to go back and to teach their people, and he said: “Go back to your families and teach them.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 6008; Muslim, 674.

Al-Bukhaari (1452) and Muslim (1865) narrated from Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri that a Bedouin asked the Messenger of Allaah SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) about migration (hijrah) and he said: “Woe to you! Migration is very important. Do you have any camels?” He said: “Yes.” He said: “Do you pay zakaah on them?” He said: “Yes.” He said: “(Even) if you are in the remotest region, Allaah will not cause any of your deeds to be lost.”

Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

“Allaah will not cause any of your deeds to be lost” means: He will never allow the reward for any of your deeds to be lost, no matter where you are.

The scholars said that what is meant by the migration (hijrah) which this Bedouin asked about is staying close to Madeenah with the Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and forsaking one’s family and homeland. The Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) feared that he would not be able to bear that, and he would not fulfil his rights towards them, and that he would turn back (from Islam), so he said to him: This migration that you asked about is very important, but do good in your own land, and wherever you are it will benefit you, and Allaah will not allow anything of it to be lost.

So migration depends on whether one is able to practise Islam openly and worship openly. If a person cannot do that and he fears fitnah (tribulation), then he must migrate; if he is able to practise Islam openly but he is able to migrate, then migration is mustahabb (recommended); if he is able to practise Islam openly and he engages in da’wah and teaches the Muslims, then he may stay. And Allaah knows best. May Allaah help us all to do that which He loves and which pleases Him.

See also question no. 13363.

Islam Q&A

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Conditions of it being permissible to settle in kaafir countries

Question:
What are the conditions of it being permissible to settle in kaafir countries?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

The scholars (may Allaah have mercy on them) forbade settling in or going to countries where a Muslim is not able to practise his religion openly. The one who goes there to study, do business, or earn money, and those who are resident there all come under the same rulings and there is no difference between them. The rulings concerning all of them are the same as the rulings concerning those who are resident there, and there is no difference, if they are unable to practise their religion openly, and they are able to migrate from there.

Claiming to hate the kuffaar whilst living among them is not enough. It is haraam to travel to them and settle among them for a number of reasons, including the following:

1- Practising the religion openly and in such a way that a person frees himself from any blame is very difficult and is not happening.

2- The statements of the scholars (may Allaah have mercy on them) clearly indicate that the person who does not know his religion with proof and evidence, and is not able to defend it and refute the specious arguments of the kaafireen, is not permitted to travel to their lands.

3- One of the conditions of travelling to their lands is that a person should be sure that he will not be subjected to fitnah (confusion or temptation) by the means of their force, authorities, specious arguments and temptations, and he should be sure that he will not imitate them or be influenced by what they do.


Majmoo’ Fataawa wa Maqaalaat Mutanawwi’ah li Samaahat al-Shaykh al-‘Allaamah ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him). Vol. 9, p.43

 

[massi]

thank you brother it's good behaviour from you to teach us with ahadith our profet (sws) . aicha I don't say anything or judment about you but I advice you when i say it's quran and sunna . و الله الموفق

 

[Muhammad_A]

I'd be careful what you wish for. When we whites moved to a country en-masse in the old days we usually ended up running it and oppressing the natives.

I'm pretty sure it's a genetic thing

 

[Southrn_Muslimah]

I'd be careful what you wish for. When we whites moved to a country en-masse in the old days we usually ended up running it and oppressing the natives.

I'm pretty sure it's a genetic thing

Lol. Now here comes the white guilt . I think about those things all the time. I should have a sticker or something that says I am sorry about what my race did.