Jewish Woman Admits To Sacraficing a Baby on Oprah!

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q8penpals

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Assalam aliekum

If you listen to the entire video, I feel extreme pity for her! She was forced to participate in sacrificing a baby when she was A CHILD and was molested as a child! She had bad parenting and a bad upbringing - may God have mercy on her.
 

Mabsoot

Amir
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:salam2:

You can search "gentile" menaing non-Jew in the following online search engine for Talmud to know the amount of hatred and injustice it it has for the Non-Jews.

http://www.picosearch.com/cgi-bin/ts.pl

:wasalam:

:salam2:

Yes, there is a lot of racism in the Talmud and strange things, but it is not something that all the Jews follow or consider "correct". Its just a collection of rulings that Rabbis have made throughout the times.

I dont think you will find most Jewish families secretly worshipping the devil and sacrificing babies.

THen again, someone needs to do checkup on Ariel Sharon, because he has butchered many people, as have a lot of the Israeli Zionists.
 

ShyHijabi

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This woman was part of a CULT, not part of the Jewish religion. Should I dig up a video from 1980 where a Nation of Islam person speaks of hunting down white people and killing them and say they are Muslim? There are plenty of cults out there doing heinious things and stating it is due to some religion. When in actuality it has nothing to do with a mainstream religion but rather the perversion of some mad man.

I am unclear what this video or "message" has to do with Islam or even Judaism. What is the purpose?
 

vegangoth

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This woman was part of a CULT, not part of the Jewish religion. Should I dig up a video from 1980 where a Nation of Islam person speaks of hunting down white people and killing them and say they are Muslim? There are plenty of cults out there doing heinious things and stating it is due to some religion. When in actuality it has nothing to do with a mainstream religion but rather the perversion of some mad man.

I am unclear what this video or "message" has to do with Islam or even Judaism. What is the purpose?

Couldn't have put it better myself,well said!
 

a_stranger

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:salam2:
I think that we can conclude that in absence of Godly guidiance Shaytan can drive people to most ugly deeds .That is why our humanity needs Quran badly:

17:33 Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand qisas or to forgive): but let him nor exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the Law).
 

abubaseer

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:salam2:

Yes, there is a lot of racism in the Talmud and strange things, but it is not something that all the Jews follow or consider "correct". Its just a collection of rulings that Rabbis have made throughout the times.

I dont think you will find most Jewish families secretly worshipping the devil and sacrificing babies.

THen again, someone needs to do checkup on Ariel Sharon, because he has butchered many people, as have a lot of the Israeli Zionists.

:salam2:

I agree that we will not find many Jewsih families worshipping Devil.

But, Talmud is considered to sacred by many sects in Judaism.
Yes, mainstream Judaism not Zionism.

Israel Shahak has written a complete book "The jewish Fundamentalism in Israel"on this topic. i.e. teaching of hatred in Scriptures of Judaism not Zionism.

This book was refered by Shaykh Mashhoor of Jordan.

Also, you can refer book "Al Yahoodiayh wal Nasraniyyah" by
the former Principal of College of Hadith of Madeenah University Shaykh ur ZiaurRahmaan Azmi.

He has discussed in detail the sects which consider Talmud to be sacred.


InshaAllah I can upload audio of the main points of the bookif you would like to ...It's in urdu though.

:wasalam:
 

abubaseer

tanzil.info
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I am unclear what this video or "message" has to do with Islam or even Judaism. What is the purpose?

The "message" of this video is not to deviate like the Jews who have earned the anger of Allah. Because the Prophet :saws: said that we will follow them inch by inch.

And please remember that the mainstream Judaism is also deviant Religion, not just these "sects". In which gentiles or non-jews have no right and can be cheated. The proof for it is there in the Quran also.

We should not be shy of quoting what Allah has said in the Quran, even though it goes against our family members.

:wasalam:
 

ShyHijabi

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The "message" of this video is not to deviate like the Jews who have earned the anger of Allah. Because the Prophet :saws: said that we will follow them inch by inch.

And please remember that the mainstream Judaism is also deviant Religion, not just these "sects". In which gentiles or non-jews have no right and can be cheated. The proof for it is there in the Quran also.

We should not be shy of quoting what Allah has said in the Quran, even though it goes against our family members.

:wasalam:

This woman was no more Jewish than you are Martian. She said in her own words that they "Appeared" to be Jewish to the rest of the outside world but in reality were not. It was a deception to keep people from knowing the truth. I know Judiasm is a deviated religion but even the Talmud does not say to eat babies. So again I do not see the purpose of this tape except to try and pass this off as true Jewish beleifs, and no sect of Judaism teaches to eat babies or sacrifice them.
 

abubaseer

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This woman was no more Jewish than you are Martian. She said in her own words that they "Appeared" to be Jewish to the rest of the outside world but in reality were not. It was a deception to keep people from knowing the truth. I know Judiasm is a deviated religion but even the Talmud does not say to eat babies. So again I do not see the purpose of this tape except to try and pass this off as true Jewish beleifs, and no sect of Judaism teaches to eat babies or sacrifice them.

:salam2: Sister,

There is in fact a sect in Judaism which has belief in sacrificing non-jews(whenever they can get away with!). I forgot the name of the sect. But, I can post the name inshaAllah if I think it worthwhile.

It is mentioned in the book "Al Yahoodiyah Wal Nasraneeyah" written by Zia ur Rahmaan Azmi Former Principal of College of Hadith at University of Madeenah.

:wasalam:
 

vegangoth

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:salam2: Sister,

There is in fact a sect in Judaism which has belief in sacrificing non-jews(whenever they can get away with!). I forgot the name of the sect. But, I can post the name inshaAllah if I think it worthwhile.

It is mentioned in the book "Al Yahoodiyah Wal Nasraneeyah" written by Zia ur Rahmaan Azmi Former Principal of College of Hadith at University of Madeenah.

:wasalam:

Gotta say that this thread was about a Islamic sect killing babies it would have either been shut down right away or filled with all of you defending Islam and saying that these people are not real muslims ect. Just because you think Judaism is a devent releigon does not mean you have to speak ill about them.
 

a_stranger

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Gotta say that this thread was about a Islamic sect killing babies it would have either been shut down right away or filled with all of you defending Islam and saying that these people are not real muslims ect. Just because you think Judaism is a devent releigon does not mean you have to speak ill about them.

Islam main concern is the protection of life, which is the objective of the Islamic law. The sanctity of human life is declared repeatedly and most emphatically in the Quran. An example is the Quranic verse that reads,

[If any one slew a person unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land, it would be as if he slew the whole people; and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.] (Al-Ma'idah 5:32)

To kill just one innocent human is like killing the whole of humanity, and to save just one human amounts to saving the whole of humanity. Can we possibly find a better way of emphasizing the sanctity of human life?

Among the pagan Arabs at old times, there existed the horrible practice of burying alive the newborn girls which Islam fought :

[When the female infant buried alive will be asked, for what sin she was slain.]Quran (At-Takwir 81:8-9)
 

a_muslimah86

Hubbi Li Rabbi
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Okay so I am Muslim..was born Muslim..and alhamduliallah for all that!

But this video caused me offense!

We shouldn't try to go out there and just *drag* thing onto here just to show deviancy and EVIL

How about we try to understand the underlying context of what we post?

Did anyone stop to think that this video can in fact be an agenda attacking ALL ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS???..that it can be pushed out and slapped all over the cyberspace by Atheists..Agnostics..or any group that is anti-religion altogether?..it can even be groups promoting racial violence and/or segregation..such as the KKK or the White Supremacists

We should worry about *our religion*..we should worry about the deviance practiced by the people who claim to be *part of it*..for Allah's Sake..we have people who pray on a PIECE OF MUD..others who DANCE FOR WORSHIP!!!..and others who reject THE SUNNAH and take ONLY the Qura'an for their deen!!!...we got our platters FULL brothers and sisters..until we clear them off..and wash them *clean*..we shouldn't attack people and try to make it seem as if we are the perfect ones on the face of earth..when even *individually* we are FULL of short-comings and wrong-doings!..

Imagine if a Jewish man or woman came to study Islam from TTI..and they found THIS VIDEO being discussed as if it is THE WHOLE OF THE JUDAIC BELIEF!..when it is apparently a LITTLE SECT OF IT..obviously considered *deviant* by the mass of Jews..how will he/she react?!!!...he/she will most likely think..here are the people who preach egalitarianism and intellect regarding belief and practice..making a "thriving" discussion over a video which VERY CLEARLY speaks of a *small tiny number of Jews*..I can bet you everything that they will log off and never return..

I get the feeling that what is posted here about Jews and Christians a lot of times is *politically fueled*..and unfortunately I fell into that trap a few times and joined in the mess of it..but after a long and personal *thinking session* I decided that things of *this* and *other* sorts will only widen the gap between us and the non-Muslims (i.e. Jews, Christians) whom we're supposed to make da'awa to (because we are NOW and until THE END..the only carriers of TRUTH!!!)..and we have to do so..FIRST OF ALL..by being knowledgable..intellectual..factual..respectful..and just in our dealings with them..and SECOND OF ALL..by stopping the gush of hatred and biases we feel towards them due to political misfortunes committed by the most elite of the elite and the power and wealth-motivated..as allowing it to gush on and on will only drown us..and that's when we'll shut our eyes..and thus..can't even find a way OUT of the drowning!

OUR HOUSES ARE MADE OF *GLASS*..VERY THIN GLASS..DUE TO IGNORANCE & MEDIA BRAINWASHING..SO WE SHOULD THROW THE STONES IN OUR HANDS ON THE GROUND..AND FOCUS ON PROMOTING *THE PURE DEEN OF ALLAH*..SO OUR *HOUSES* STAY INTACT!!!

Before noticing the gunk in the eyes of others (i.e. non-Muslims) we should notice *the branches* in *our* eyes..and help those claiming to be Muslim but need to *act upon their Islam* as Allah Commands for them to do..so inturn..Allah may bless us and look upon us with favor and pleasure!!!

And we can accomplish that by focusing on the promotion of *Tawheed* and *Sunnah* brothers and sisters...if we feel compelled to *correct* a matter or eliminate a deviance or an innovation..we *certainly* should hasten to do that..but we should do so based on *just*..factual and credible information which relates to *the masses* of the side we're correcting...setting aside biases and hasty proofs..because we're supposed to be the people of *fact* and *truth*..as Allah (swt) Says to us in the Qura'an:

"And from among you there should be a party who invite to good and enjoin what is right and forbid the wrong" [Al-Imran 3:104]

And

"Take to forgiveness and enjoin good and turn aside from the ignorant" [Al-A'araaf 7:199]

And

"You are the best of the nations raised up for (the benefit of) men; you enjoin what is right and forbid the wrong and believe in Allah" [Al-Imran 3:110]

and let's bear in mind with utmost reverence and obedience the following words of The Holy..Almighty Allah (swt):

"We verily sent Our messengers with clear proofs, and revealed with them the Scripture and the Balance, that mankind may observe right measure" [Al-Hadid 57:25]

And

"And argue not with the People of the Scripture unless it be in (a way) that is better" [Al-Ankaboot 29:46]

And I will conclude with the following verses as a divine reminder from an All-Wise, All-knowing Lord:

"And if your Lord willed, all who are in the earth would have believed together. Would you compel men until they are believers?" [Yunis 10:99]

And

"And if your Lord had willed, He verily would have made mankind one nation" [Hood 11:118-119]

And Finally:

"O you who believe! Stand out firmly for Allah as just witnesses; and let not the enmity and hatred of others make you avoid justice. Be just: that is nearer to piety; and fear Allah. Verily, Allah is Well-Acquainted with what you do" [Al-Mae'eda 5:8]

:wasalam:
 

a_stranger

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:salam2:sister Muslima86

Very good point of view , muslems should never attack or be harsh.....we should present Islam in the best manner we can.
 
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