Asja
Pearl of Islaam
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Dear brother the point is in ilegal relationship beetwen master and their slaves girls.
And not all slaves were selling themselves, many of them have been captured in a war, There is a difference.
Does Islaam allows this???
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Dear brother the point is in ilegal relationship beetwen master and their slaves girls.
And not all slaves were selling themselves, many of them have been captured in a war, There is a difference.
Asja
Pearl of Islaam
Dear sister can you please answer on my question or atleast try InshAllah. Who would you chosse to be his slave girl??? Or would you also choose death like me accept to be a slave girl.
And one question more please.
Is it the same to be a wife and the slave girl, of the same man, husband and master???
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Most of them are freed too. And many of them are returned back to slavery agian too. Dont make simple thing complex. If Allah has forbidden salvery altoghther it would bring an economic disaster to the society. Slavery was needed for the society. How can you ignore it. Slavery was permitted in other contemporary societies too. No society come to the solution of gradual ellimniantion except ISLAM.
Most of them are freed too. And many of them are returned back to slavery agian too. Dont make simple thing complex. If Allah has forbidden salvery altoghther it would bring an economic disaster to the society. Slavery was needed for the society. How can you ignore it. Slavery was permitted in other contemporary societies too. No society come to the solution of gradual ellimniantion except ISLAM.
Asja
Pearl of Islaam
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Dear brother it is not point in slavery like a slavery,but the point in the illegal relationship (Zinah) in that slavery,and how these men(masters) instead of only giving protection to thier slave women used them like object for thier very low desires.:astag::astag: Instead of only mainteining them becasue as Muslims they should be mercyfull,and like Muslims they can not do this Zinah,:astag:
Asja
Pearl of Islaam
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Dear sister,it seems you do not understand me.I do not understand how Allah can aloow that women be used only like object becasue slave girl is nothing but object because her master is useing her for his low desires.
I do not understand how Islaam can aloow that??? Do you understand that dear sister??? If you do,how do you see the slave girl?
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Dear Sister;
Try to adjust a little bit. It is not too demanding. Definition of Jinah, sin, good depends on what Allah (SWT) likes, dislikes, allows, forbids. These definitions does not depend on you or me.
Slavery means like that. Sexual relations with slaves was nothing new nor old. 350 years, the masters in the west did sex with their slaves wheveer they wishes. Listen to the lecture of Dr. Jerald about the history of slavery in USA.
May ALlah make our heart more obedient.
Dear Sister;
Try to adjust a little bit. It is not too demanding. Definition of Jinah, sin, good depends on what Allah (SWT) likes, dislikes, allows, forbids. These definitions does not depend on you or me.
Slavery means like that. Sexual relations with slaves was nothing new nor old. 350 years, the masters in the west did sex with their slaves wheveer they wishes. Listen to the lecture of Dr. Jerald about the history of slavery in USA.
May ALlah make our heart more obedient.
NourAlDeen
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Allaicomu saalam dear sister.
Welcome back sister,and jazzak Allah khair for your kind reply.
Well,in my case sister I would choose death but never to be slave girl to some man.I would accept only in the case to be under his protection and nothing else from that Allhamdmulillah.
But any way which is diffrent to be a slave girl to a Muslim man or to good Chistain man??? Becasue in both cases slave girl would be object without honuer and with humilation.Only Allah Almighty knows how those slave girls felt and thier mothers,and fathers,and brothers.Thier daughters,sisters,who once had honuer and dignity now they do not have anything.
And now you dear sister. You are backing ages and ages in the time of dark slavery. You are captured and you do not have any other option accept to be slave of bad "Muslim man" or good Christian man. Who would you choose, InshAllah???????????
Aodu billahi mina *!*!*!*!ani rajeem..
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You should be award of what you are saying dear sister.. Saying something like that is dangerous.. Even though you are getting Ayah from the Quran you keep saying that its ZINAH subhannallah.. Remember that you are talkind bad about somethin our beloved Prophet salallahu aleihi wasalam used to do, and which ALLAH subhana wata'ala made halal.. Dont talk about something you do not have as much knowledge about..
Alot of people used to say how Mahamed salallahu aleihi wasalam could marry Aisha who where very young, but we all know in that time its was ok to marry a young girl, both muslims and chritians used to do that, allahu a'alam..
Your way of talking/writing, get me to think about whether you are muslim .. Sunni Muslim?
I advise you to read more about Islam, slavery in Islam and about our beloved prophet and the sahaba Insha Allah .. Try to hear the lecture that was sent to you which is about slavery .. Your way of speak at could get you out of the religion subahanallah..
May allah subahana wata'ala guide.. Fi amanillah!!
Asja
Pearl of Islaam
Dear brother
Like a Muslim,do you want to say that is fine that women be used like objects???
And is relationship beetwen master and slave girl legal???
Please answer
The definition of slavery that you are trying to give is not permitted in ISLAM. Because in such case slaves always have to wear HIJAB, lower their Gazes. Similary the male slaves are not allowed to look at their female masters. Their female masters are also obliged to use HIJAB, lower gaze. Slaves masters even are not allowed to talk.
Are those practical things, i.e., applicable by any master. It would open the door of shaitan.
The definition of slavery that you are trying to give is not permitted in ISLAM. Because in such case slaves always have to wear HIJAB, lower their Gazes. Similary the male slaves are not allowed to look at their female masters. Their female masters are also obliged to use HIJAB, lower gaze. Slaves masters even are not allowed to talk.
Are those practical things, i.e., applicable by any master. It would open the door of shaitan.
Asja
Pearl of Islaam
MassHallah, mashAllah dear sister. I must say I am amazed by your words wallahi. Jazzak Allah khair and Allah is the greatest protector, SubhanAllah.
I am very glade to see that you have become member on this site, on this date only to reply on my thread and only to try to answer on my question. May Allah reword you for everything and He is the greatest Judge.
Give me some time InshAllah and I will find out the truth, you would not believe how good perception I have thanks to Allah on everything. Heart seas that what eyes can not see, ears can hear the sound in a distance of something that is getting close. And souls that calls Allahs name, becouse everything is in His name SubhanAllah.
It is our duty to search answers on our question, it is order from Allah to us, Muslims and believers. How can a believer be afraid of the judgment of people when the Greatest Judge is only Allah SunhanAllah.
Am I Sunni Muslim???????????Or you maybe wanted to ask am I Shia Muslim or am I Muslim at all?????
You are free to ask or say anything my dear sister. To everything will come the end with Allahs will and everyone will know what he or she prepared when time comes InshAllah.
How can words of heart that lives for Allah only take away from His path, how heart that wakes up only for Him SubhanAllah take away from His path.
You sister try to open your heart and soul to find the truth InshAllah.
And yes exactly becouse I love Allah and Prophet Mohammed s.a.w.s and Saahabahs I am asking these questions.
Asja
Pearl of Islaam
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I am really sorry to say this brother but you should not tell me like this because belivers are not saying like this to belivers regarding Allah subhan we teala and His Messanger s.a.w.s.,Astagfirullah.
Like you said brother it is good act and aloowed to take care and free slaves but without having illegal relationship beetwen them.SubhanAllah I accept that. But I can not accept ilegal relationship beetwen them,becasue everything illegal is Zinah and like that women would be used only like object.Ofcourse I do not cosider it nither right,neither human act,SubhnAllah.
May Allah guide us all and put Mercy in our hearts.:tti_sister:
Asja
Pearl of Islaam
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With all due respect to you sister I am not trying to prove anything Allhamdullilah. I have just asked a question, if you do not know the answer than it is better to be silent InshAllah. There is no any wrong in silence and only one word can hurt so much.
Which ullama dear sister I should ask??? Isnt our ullama the same.
Who sais it is aloowe to have mutaa??? Offcourse it is not and every Muslim knows that Allhamdullilah.
May Allah bless you
BinteShafi
Left long ago
SubhanAllah!!! She is still using the word "illegal relationship" when she has been presented with the ayah of Quran and sunnah of the Prophet SAW.
This site is a garbage. SISTER pelase reply
I dont think I have need to come to this website. This is a mess. More evils are coming to this site than ture muslim who casting false things about ISLAM. May Allah (SWT) cause this site to be shut down so that mouth of Satan's is closed.
Dear SISTER,
If you dont understand It is only ALLAH (SWT) and His messenger (PBUH) who decides what is lawfull, unlawfull, Hallal, Haram, sin, good etc I have nothing to say. It depends on what they like, allows and dislikes, disapproves and certainly not what we feel or think.
Allah (SWT) knew IBLEES would dislike to bow down to Adham (PBUH). That is why ALLAH (SWT) command him to bow down to Adham (PBUH). It was not an impossible task for anyone. He was so pious that He was rasied to the heaven, but instantly He refused to bow down and lost everything. Because what he did to please Allah (SWT) in His past life was all comfortable to him. But when ALLAH (SWT) has ordered him to do a single uncomfortable thing i.e., to bow down to Adham he refused. Therefore, it proves his past actions of worship was a hypocracy.
Sorry sister, you seems to be like that. ISLAM will not be according what you desire.
If you want to put your hand in ISLAM and try to make it a little bit convenient to you then it is bidah. Your arrogance may lead you to go outside the fold of islam. May Allah protect us.
I dont think I have need to come to this website. This is a mess. More evils are coming to this site than ture muslim who casting false things about ISLAM. May Allah (SWT) cause this site to be shut down so that mouth of Satan's is closed.
Dear SISTER,
If you dont understand It is only ALLAH (SWT) and His messenger (PBUH) who decides what is lawfull, unlawfull, Hallal, Haram, sin, good etc I have nothing to say. It depends on what they like, allows and dislikes, disapproves and certainly not what we feel or think.
Allah (SWT) knew IBLEES would dislike to bow down to Adham (PBUH). That is why ALLAH (SWT) command him to bow down to Adham (PBUH). It was not an impossible task for anyone. He was so pious that He was rasied to the heaven, but instantly He refused to bow down and lost everything. Because what he did to please Allah (SWT) in His past life was all comfortable to him. But when ALLAH (SWT) has ordered him to do a single uncomfortable thing i.e., to bow down to Adham he refused. Therefore, it proves his past actions of worship was a hypocracy.
Sorry sister, you seems to be like that. ISLAM will not be according what you desire.
If you want to put your hand in ISLAM and try to make it a little bit convenient to you then it is bidah. Your arrogance may lead you to go outside the fold of islam. May Allah protect us.
Asja
Pearl of Islaam
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Sister,the mind is not able to understand someones heart because Allah has made us all diffrent.It is just that you do not understand that,but Allah knows the best.
Sister,do you know juridicall notes? Legal and ilegal it is not the same sister,and the relatinship in slavery is not legal.
Muslim heart should not only think about himselve,but about others too.So do you think about mother of slave girl.How does she feels seeing her daughter in severing to low desires of one man who is useing her like object,and without being his wife.
Do you think on father of this slave girl.His daughter was his proud and now she is nothing,but only .......... object for one man.
Do you think on children of this slave girl,when they call their mother and she can not answer.
The qustion is do we have enough feelings and mercy in our hearts. SubhanAllah,increase mercy in our hearts and clean our souls so we can be better Servents to You.Ameen
And to say more,the culture is also part of Islaam,especilay for one Muslimah.Ameen
Asja
Pearl of Islaam
I call Allah for the witness and He is my greatest protector.
I shall no have fear from people and their words as they can not harm me if I am in your mercy my Allah. Neither their words of insolts, neither their words of offence, neither thier look and heart without purity can make a difference if I am in your protection SubhanAllah.
Please Allah do not forget me, if I forget you.
Please Allah help me to get up if I fall down.
Please Allah learn me how to forgive when they hurt me.
Please Allah make thier words like send and make that wind takes them away, so that heart can stay pure .
Please Allah put mercy in our hearts.
Astagfirullah for everything that you said dear brother. May Allah forgive you for all your words of insult, and disrespect. Ask forgivness from Allah and repent yourselfe becouse we never know when is our time to leave.
May Allah guide us all.Ameen
nabeelahmad18
..Muslim Be United..
Asslaam-u-Aliakum
Please sister Asja be patience, it may be shaitan whispering you.
"The only saying of the faithful believers, when they are called to Allah (His Words, the Qur'an) and His Messenger, to judge between them, is that they say: "We hear and we obey." And such are the successful (who will live forever in Paradise). And whosoever obeys Allah and His Messenger, fears Allah, and keeps his duty (to Him), such are the successful." [Annoor 51-52]
"And whatsoever the Messenger gives you, take it; and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it). And fear Allah; verily, Allah is Severe in punishment." [Al-Hashr 07]
"It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger, to have any option about their decision: if anyone disobeys Allah and His Messenger he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path." (Al-Ahzaab 36)
May Allah give you patience.Ameen
Please sister Asja be patience, it may be shaitan whispering you.
"The only saying of the faithful believers, when they are called to Allah (His Words, the Qur'an) and His Messenger, to judge between them, is that they say: "We hear and we obey." And such are the successful (who will live forever in Paradise). And whosoever obeys Allah and His Messenger, fears Allah, and keeps his duty (to Him), such are the successful." [Annoor 51-52]
"And whatsoever the Messenger gives you, take it; and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it). And fear Allah; verily, Allah is Severe in punishment." [Al-Hashr 07]
"It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger, to have any option about their decision: if anyone disobeys Allah and His Messenger he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path." (Al-Ahzaab 36)
May Allah give you patience.Ameen
I would like to drop this matter
I could not work the whole day. As a Phd student I should not spent my office hour like this. Unfortunately I noticed one's seems to be hyprograte thread which i cannot leave without replying andn the whole day is gone.
Anyway, Dear sister
We all should ask Allah's forgieveness. May Allah (SWT) protect from all form of apostasy. May Allay (SWT) enlighten our heart to understand His wisdom. May Allah (SWT) guide you and me in His right path.
Ameen
I could not work the whole day. As a Phd student I should not spent my office hour like this. Unfortunately I noticed one's seems to be hyprograte thread which i cannot leave without replying andn the whole day is gone.
Anyway, Dear sister
We all should ask Allah's forgieveness. May Allah (SWT) protect from all form of apostasy. May Allay (SWT) enlighten our heart to understand His wisdom. May Allah (SWT) guide you and me in His right path.
Ameen
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