termites in the house.

[abu'muhammad]

:salam2:

dear brothers and sisters, May allah bless you all !

the problem is : On the second floor where I live there are termites feeding on wooden frames of doors and windows. They have made hidden channels, spreading and expanding . Meanwhile we want to paint the house as well as have third floor extention in short time If Allah wills.So I am worried that termites may spread in the whole house. the civil engineer is my younger brother and he too is also finding some solution to that .

so any one could provide with reference any ruling InshaAllah regarding. can we have 'pest treatment' ? the termites are not human enemies, so I am not sure of what to do in this case.

every reply is a help, do not hesitate.

jazaakallahu khayr wa barakallahu feek !

 

[rightpath_357]

Um- lets see.....

Well, if they bring some harm, or if you are SURE that they'll bring some harm- break down the building or something or damage anything

I'm sorry I can't give you a quote of the qur'an or anything- but I read that if bugs\ animals harm you or the place, you can kill them, but not ithout reason.

Hope this helps

Salam

 

[ahmed_indian]

frm fatwa below, it seems its allowed to kill them.

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/3005

 

[Yousef83]

yes but there is clear off way.Commanded us don't fire and choke any living being

 

[JENNAH.K.]

ANTRID

That is so strange to see that today! I had armies of ants all over my mother's daybed... she was disturbed by that so I placed some 'antrid' on their trail (antrid is a liquid that the ant eats which in turn kills them). But then I really felt awful ....

I'm on the tip of converting to Islam and wondered whether such action permissible or not. I'll read the above link now. Just wanted to share my surprise at this strange coincidence.

 

[salahdin]

Drywood Termite Treatment Recommendations:



Treatment for control of drywood termites consists of 1) structural fumigation, or 2) localized or spot wood treatment. The localized or spot wood treatment treatment method should only be used in the case of limited infestations. If you are interested in doing it yourself you may want to check out our Do-It-Yourself Drywood Termite Spot Treatment Kit. Extensive infestations should only be controlled by fumigation with Methyl Bromide or Vikane. Both Methyl Bromide and Vikane are restricted use products and cannot be purchased without a Certified Structural Fumigator (or similar) license.

1. Drywood Termite Structural Fumigation
Fumigation is done with sulfuryl fluoride (Vikane) or methyl bromide gas. The entire building is covered tightly with a fumigation cover and the gas is introduced. Vikane has the advantage of rapid and uniform dispersion within the temperature range for climates where drywood termites are found. Such fumigations should be done only by professionals thoroughly trained in the use of gasses. Both Methyl Bromide and Vikane are restricted use products and cannot be purchased without a Certified Structural Fumigator (or similar) license.

2. Drywood Termite Spot Direct Wood Treatment
In order to effectively use a liquid, aerosol or dust formulation, holes are drilled into the infested timbers through the termite galleries or kickout holes, using a 3/16 inch drill bit. Insecticide is then forced through these holes to be dispersed through the galleries. Silica gel such as TriDie is an example of a dust that is used. Dusts should be injected into the termite galleries in small amounts. Too much dust will plug the galleries, and the termites will wall off and isolate these areas.

When treating limited infestations, aerosol's such as Invader HPX and dust formulations such as TriDie are used most often. While there may be a fire hazard created when oil-based materials are used, the injection of a water-based insecticide in a wooden beam may create a favorable site for decay fungi. After an insecticide has been injected into wood, the openings should be plugged with wooden dowels or at the very least sealed with Dap™.

Dampwood termites
Are controlled by the same methods as drywood termites when they are in wood not in contact with the ground. Where there is ground contact, structural changes to eliminate moisture may be necessary, together with ground treatment as recommended for subterranean termites. However, control consists primarily of eliminating the moisture problem in the wood, often involving replacement of damaged and moist wood.



Powderpost Termites
Can be controlled by direct wood treatment or by fumigation, as described for drywood termites. When drywood or powderpost termites are infesting furniture, insecticides can be injected into their galleries or the furniture can be fumigated. Some professionals control these termites in furniture by using a hypodermic syringe to inject a fumigant into their galleries. This method has the advantage of getting the insecticide inside the wood without making disfiguring holes on the surface of the furniture.

Powderpost and drywood termites infesting furniture can be killed by holding the furniture for 1-1/2 hours in a chamber heated to 150°F, or for four hours in a chamber heated to 140°F. Kilns or special vaults equipped with heating units are used for this purpose. Cold may also be used to control these termites. In northern climates, infested furniture and crates may be moved outdoors, while refrigeration chambers can be used in warmer areas. Exposure at a temperature of 15°F for four days will kill termites in wood. Care must be taken to determine that cold or heat will not damage the article involved.

There are a number of measures that should be considered for prevention of drywood termite infestation. All lumber, especially secondhand lumber, should be carefully inspected for evidence of infestation before being used for construction purposes. Infested lumber should be destroyed. Do not use moist or moisture-damaged wood. In existing buildings, all doors, windows (especially attic windows) and other ventilation openings should be screened with 20-mesh non-corrodible metal wire cloth. Screening will prevent the entrance of winged termites into areas where colonies can be established. Chemically treated wood will also prevent attack. Lumber treated with wood preservatives such as Timbor is also effective. Termite-resistant woods such as cedar, bois d' ark and redwood can also be used.





http://www.bug-central.com/video.html

 

[abu'muhammad]

Um- lets see.....

Well, if they bring some harm, or if you are SURE that they'll bring some harm- break down the building or something or damage anything

I'm sorry I can't give you a quote of the qur'an or anything- but I read that if bugs\ animals harm you or the place, you can kill them, but not ithout reason.

Hope this helps

Salam

waalaykum salaam, No I like my house pretty much, haha . and I have no plans for that. anyways if there is more harm than the option is removing all wooden furnitures andnothing else -InshaAllah.

 

[abu'muhammad]

frm fatwa below, it seems its allowed to kill them.

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/3005

:salam2:

thanks akhi for posting, jazaakallau khayr.

 

[abu'muhammad]

Drywood Termite Treatment Recommendations:



Treatment for control of drywood termites consists of 1) structural fumigation, or 2) localized or spot wood treatment. The localized or spot wood treatment treatment method should only be used in the case of limited infestations. If you are interested in doing it yourself you may want to check out our Do-It-Yourself Drywood Termite Spot Treatment Kit. Extensive infestations should only be controlled by fumigation with Methyl Bromide or Vikane. Both Methyl Bromide and Vikane are restricted use products and cannot be purchased without a Certified Structural Fumigator (or similar) license.

1. Drywood Termite Structural Fumigation
Fumigation is done with sulfuryl fluoride (Vikane) or methyl bromide gas. The entire building is covered tightly with a fumigation cover and the gas is introduced. Vikane has the advantage of rapid and uniform dispersion within the temperature range for climates where drywood termites are found. Such fumigations should be done only by professionals thoroughly trained in the use of gasses. Both Methyl Bromide and Vikane are restricted use products and cannot be purchased without a Certified Structural Fumigator (or similar) license.

2. Drywood Termite Spot Direct Wood Treatment
In order to effectively use a liquid, aerosol or dust formulation, holes are drilled into the infested timbers through the termite galleries or kickout holes, using a 3/16 inch drill bit. Insecticide is then forced through these holes to be dispersed through the galleries. Silica gel such as TriDie is an example of a dust that is used. Dusts should be injected into the termite galleries in small amounts. Too much dust will plug the galleries, and the termites will wall off and isolate these areas.

When treating limited infestations, aerosol's such as Invader HPX and dust formulations such as TriDie are used most often. While there may be a fire hazard created when oil-based materials are used, the injection of a water-based insecticide in a wooden beam may create a favorable site for decay fungi. After an insecticide has been injected into wood, the openings should be plugged with wooden dowels or at the very least sealed with Dap™.

Dampwood termites
Are controlled by the same methods as drywood termites when they are in wood not in contact with the ground. Where there is ground contact, structural changes to eliminate moisture may be necessary, together with ground treatment as recommended for subterranean termites. However, control consists primarily of eliminating the moisture problem in the wood, often involving replacement of damaged and moist wood.



Powderpost Termites
Can be controlled by direct wood treatment or by fumigation, as described for drywood termites. When drywood or powderpost termites are infesting furniture, insecticides can be injected into their galleries or the furniture can be fumigated. Some professionals control these termites in furniture by using a hypodermic syringe to inject a fumigant into their galleries. This method has the advantage of getting the insecticide inside the wood without making disfiguring holes on the surface of the furniture.

Powderpost and drywood termites infesting furniture can be killed by holding the furniture for 1-1/2 hours in a chamber heated to 150°F, or for four hours in a chamber heated to 140°F. Kilns or special vaults equipped with heating units are used for this purpose. Cold may also be used to control these termites. In northern climates, infested furniture and crates may be moved outdoors, while refrigeration chambers can be used in warmer areas. Exposure at a temperature of 15°F for four days will kill termites in wood. Care must be taken to determine that cold or heat will not damage the article involved.

There are a number of measures that should be considered for prevention of drywood termite infestation. All lumber, especially secondhand lumber, should be carefully inspected for evidence of infestation before being used for construction purposes. Infested lumber should be destroyed. Do not use moist or moisture-damaged wood. In existing buildings, all doors, windows (especially attic windows) and other ventilation openings should be screened with 20-mesh non-corrodible metal wire cloth. Screening will prevent the entrance of winged termites into areas where colonies can be established. Chemically treated wood will also prevent attack. Lumber treated with wood preservatives such as Timbor is also effective. Termite-resistant woods such as cedar, bois d' ark and redwood can also be used.





http://www.bug-central.com/video.html

:salam2:
brother salahdin, Thanks for sharing the benefecial read. May Allah bless you! I too searched on that and got some useful information.

 

[abu'muhammad]

That is so strange to see that today! I had armies of ants all over my mother's daybed... she was disturbed by that so I placed some 'antrid' on their trail (antrid is a liquid that the ant eats which in turn kills them). But then I really felt awful ....

:salam2:
The case you mentioned is finer, still . in my house there are some channels in electric line, electric boards, although a five year old construction !! It will be interesting to know how they come in one house or what pulls them.

 

[JENNAH.K.]

I traced the source of my ant army! There were sweets that had fallen under the
daybed so they were marching to there and back to their nests. However I've seen them elsewhere but cant find any food about...

Anyone know of ant-repellent that doesnt kill?