People who *know* things

Tabassum07

Smile for Allah
salaaam,

There's this person in our family who claims to "know" things, like whether a situation will turn out to be good or bad.

This is hugely shirk, right? And other members of our family believe him. I mean, this is like he has contact with jinn right? How do I convince my family not to believe in him???
 

Abdul25

Logical Believer
salaaam,

There's this person in our family who claims to "know" things, like whether a situation will turn out to be good or bad.

This is hugely shirk, right? And other members of our family believe him. I mean, this is like he has contact with jinn right? How do I convince my family not to believe in him???

this is shirk...........
only Allah knows the future,
put him on test,

i had a friend whose grandfather used to do black magic (kaala jadu), he had the support of jins, and he used to tell about the lost or stolen things with the help of jins.

jins who do these things also make that man do many wrong doings for them,
like my friends grandfather used to abuse (i don't want to mentions the name) in front of us, ....

show them the ayats of quran that only Allah knows the future,
 

ahmed_indian

to Allah we belong
salaaam,

This is hugely shirk, right? And other members of our family believe him. I mean, this is like he has contact with jinn right? How do I convince my family not to believe in him???

:wasalam:,

they'll believe him because he maybe is getting the info frm jinns and ur family might not know thats its *forbidden* in engage in such activities. you should advise them *strongly* that fortunetelling is forbidden in Islam.

Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever goes to a fortune-teller and asks him about something, his prayer will not be accepted for forty nights.” Narrated by Muslim (2230).

Allah sent us to worship Him. we are not here to pile up sins upon sins to jump into hellfire.
 

Tabassum07

Smile for Allah
I can use him to predict the stock market for me! Do you have his email address? :D

Lol! Brother, thanks for putting hilarity in this situation. How ridiculous it sounds right, that he's claiming he knows how things will turn out... And its making me especially angry, because he's claiming to tell my parents how certain proposals for me will turn out.. :rolls eyes: how does he know????

Please everyone, could anyone post some more quranic ayats so I can show them? :)
 

Aisha hussain..

seeking knowledge
salam alaykum
read this sister its amazing: -
Ignorance about future is better for the people


We must understand that prohibition of soothsaying is beneficial to us. Allah the Almighty does not wish people to have knowledge of the future. It is possible that a person may come to know of something of tremendous importance which will take place is according to his wishes. But their happening may be dependant on his giving Sadaqah or invoking Allah (S.w.T.). Having this knowledge beforehand may prevent the person from giving Sadaqah and invoking Allah (S.w.T.) with the result he will be deprived of his wishes. Similaly he may come to know of some calamity is to befall and this will cause him great anxiety when in reality this happening may not occur at all because of change in Allah (S.w.T.)’s ordinance (Badā). It is well known that many calamities are warded off by invoking Allah (S.w.T.) or giving Sadaqah or due to some good actions of the person or repentance. We can recall the people of Prophet Yūnus (a.s.), who were to be subjected to a great disaster. But their Du’a and repentance at the eleventh hour changed the course of their destiny. The Qur’an has also mentioned this fact.
A tradition is quoted in the Ihtijaj of Tabarsi from the sixth Imam (a.s.). The gist of the same is as follows: After the birth of the Holy Prophet (S) the shaitans and the Jinns were denied access to the heavens, hence they were unable to give information about the heavenly affairs. Now they could only inform about the evil magical matters. This information is unreliable because among the jinns too there are liars as well as truthful jinns. Therefore the fortune telling of a diviner is unreliable.



Sorcery and soothsaying are evil


To understand the evil of magic and soothsaying it is enough to know the numerous frauds, crimes, thefts and cheating committed through them. The sorcerer discontinues all the good actions and concentrates only on performing satanic rituals. He commits adultery with a married woman, sometimes he kills a person or drinks human blood. He shows disrespect to the things that Allah (S.w.T.) has made respectful. For example, he desecrates the verses of the Holy Qur’an. He performs actions that bring him closer to shaitans and eventually enters their company. Rather he debases himself lower than the shaitans so that they may help him in soothsaying and sorcery.
It is certainly a great pity that a human being who is capable of utmost good and worthy of rising to a position equal to angels or even higher, should so debase himself by his evil deeds that his position is degraded below that of the Shaitan.

Shoabada, illusion


Fast movements of an object can create an optical illusion for the beholder. For example if a ball of fire is moved in circles it seems to be a circle of fire. In the same way a person who is travelling in a car or train feels himself stationary and feels that his surroundings are moving in the opposite direction. Some people are adept at creating illusions of this type which audience perceives as real. To create such an illusion is Shobada. All the fuqaha are unanimous that Shobada is Harām; and that it is a type of magic. A tradition of Imam Sadiq (a.s.) in Ihtijaj also mentions that creating illusions is a kind of sorcery. Another form of this magic consists of the perceived effect being a reality and not an illusion. The magicians of Fir’on used both the methods with Hazrat Musa (a.s.). First they created an illusion, then they switched over to actual sorcery. Apart from these there are many other kinds of magics and tricks; but we need not go into details.
It has been narrated about Abu Hafs Hadād that when he was a young man he had fallen in love with a lady. He was so enchanted by her that he was prepared to do anything to acquire her. Someone told him that there was a magician Jew in Nishapur and he would be able to fulfill his wishes. He went to the Jew and told him about his desires. The magician told him to abstain from prayers and other good deeds for forty days so that he can make his magic work for him. Abu Hafs returned from there and acted upon the instigation of the sorcerer.
After the forty days had elapsed Abu Hafs went to the Jew again and told him that so far the magic had not worked. The magician was also surprised and he told Abu Hafs that he must have done at least one good deed in those forty days that has nullified the magic. Abu Hafs pondered, and said that as far as he remembered he had not done a single good action except that he had picked up a stone from the path so that it may not hurt a traveller. “That was it!” The magician exclaimed, “Though you disobeyed God these forty days and did not fulfill any obligation, yet He is such a Merciful God that He accepted even such a small deed from you and prevented the magic to work for you. So, it is not appropriate for you to disobey such a generous God.”
The words of the magician had such effect on Abu Hafs that he repented for his misdeeds and became absorbed in worship and sought forgiveness from Allah (S.w.T.). He became so pious that eventually he was bestowed miraculous power by the Almighty.
 
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