Wikileaks release of embassy cables reveals US concerns

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Abu Talib

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I am a great admirer of wikileaks but this one was a shocker

Whistle-blowing website Wikileaks has released extracts from secret messages sent by US embassies which give an insight into current global concerns.

They include reports of some Arab leaders - including Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah - urging the US to attack Iran and end its nuclear weapons programme.

Other concerns include the security of Pakistani nuclear material that could be used to make an atomic weapon.

The widespread use of computer hacking by China's government is also reported.

The US government condemned the release of the documents, which number in the hundreds of thousands, saying they put the lives of diplomats and others at risk.

The founder of Wikileaks, Julian Assange, countered by saying the US authorities were afraid of being held to account.

The leaked US embassy cables, published at length in newspapers including the New York Times and the UK's Guardian, also reportedly include accounts of:

The fact that the Saudis, Jordanians and others are deeply suspicious about Iran's intentions is well known. What has not been known until now is how strongly they have been pressing for American military action.

The leaks do not tell the Iranians anything they did not suspect, or perhaps have already picked up themselves.

But they will sharpen the debate over Iran's nuclear plans, and about the chances of military action by the Americans - or the Israelis.

The leaks are deeply embarrassing for the Americans, and will infuriate Arab leaders whose remarks have been quoted.

* Iran attempting to adapt North Korean rockets for use as long-range missiles
* Corruption within the Afghan government, with concerns heightened when a senior official was found to be carrying more than $50m in cash on a foreign trip
* Bargaining to empty the Guantanamo Bay prison camp - including Slovenian diplomats being told to take in a freed prisoner if they wanted to secure a meeting with President Barack Obama
* Germany being warned in 2007 not to enforce arrest warrants for US Central Intelligence Agency officers involved in an operation in which an innocent German citizen with the same name as a suspected militant was abducted and held in Afghanistan
* US officials being instructed to spy on the UN's leadership by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
* The very close relationship between Russian PM Vladimir Putin and his Italian counterpart Silvio Berlusconi
* Alleged links between the Russian government and organised crime
* Yemen's president talking to then US Mid-East commander General David Petraeus about attacks on Yemeni al-Qaeda bases and saying: "We'll continue saying the bombs are ours, not yours"
* Criticism of UK politicians including Prime Minister David Cameron
* Faltering US attempts to prevent Syria from supplying arms to Hezbollah in Lebanon

The leaked embassy cables are both contemporary and historical, and include a 1989 note from a US diplomat in Panama City musing about the options open to Panamanian leader Manuel Noriega and referring to him as "a master of survival" - the author apparently had no idea that US forces would invade a week later and arrest Noriega.

In a statement, the White House said: "Such disclosures put at risk our diplomats, intelligence professionals, and people around the world who come to the United States for assistance in promoting democracy and open government.

"President Obama supports responsible, accountable, and open government at home and around the world, but this reckless and dangerous action runs counter to that goal."

Earlier, Wikileaks said it had come under attack from a computer-hacking operation.

"We are currently under a mass distributed denial of service attack," it reported on its Twitter feed.

No-one has been charged with passing the diplomatic files to the website but suspicion has fallen on US Army private Bradley Manning, an intelligence analyst arrested in Iraq in June and charged over an earlier leak of classified US documents to Mr Assange's organisation.

Wikileaks argues that the site's previous releases shed light on the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

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Ibn Uthaymin

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Oh man!

I know where not supposed to be supportive of the Shiah, but i dont want the American government to get its way anymore.
 

Abu Talib

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Some more from the classified releases.

-- Pressure from U.S. allies in the Middle East for decisive action to neutralize Iran's nuclear program. According to one cable, King Hamad of Bahrain told Gen. David Petraeus, then the top U.S. commander in the region, that the United States must curb Iran's nuclear program by whatever means necessary. "The danger of letting it go on is greater than the danger of stopping it," the king is quoted as saying. Similarly, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia implored Washington to "cut off the head of the snake" while there was still time, according to a cable cited by the British newspaper The Guardian.

-- Conversations between Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh and Petraeus about military action against al Qaeda militants in Yemen. A cable about their January meeting reports Saleh as saying: "We'll continue saying the bombs are ours, not yours." At that point, according to a cable sent by the then-U.S. ambassador in Yemen, the deputy prime minister joked "that he had just 'lied' by telling Parliament" that Yemeni forces had carried out the strikes.

-- Washington's efforts to have highly enriched uranium removed from a Pakistani research reactor. In a cable sent in May 2009, the U.S. ambassador in Islamabad said Pakistan was refusing to schedule a visit by American technical experts. The ambassador said that a Pakistani official had told her: "If the local media got word of the fuel removal, 'they certainly would portray it as the United States taking Pakistan's nuclear weapons.' "

-- Negotiations with governments over the transfer of prisoners held at Guantanamo Bay. According to The New York Times, "Slovenia was told to take a prisoner if it wanted to meet with President (Barack) Obama, while the island nation of Kiribati was offered incentives worth millions of dollars to take in a group of detainees."

-- Concern that the Chinese government was involved in global computer hacking. One cable cited by the New York Times said a Chinese contact had told the U.S. Embassy in Beijing that the Politburo had directed "the intrusion into Google's computer system" earlier this year.
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

Most Americans are somewhat dubious of the whole wikileaks and feel they are CIA.
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

No, the Americans are correct. If this man was not CIA/FBI he would be dead. Read what is being written here. The American public is more awake than ever. They are becoming the defenders of seeking the truth.
Do not buy into the homeland security crap.
 

abdul-aziz

Junior Member
I am waiting for cables about Israelis on Palestine issue

don't get your hopes up, it was leaked only to 5 news outlets and you know what they try to shape. They quickly smacked Saudi and Yemen information. But not the zionist.

The other thing is, how can we trust wiki leaks.


:wasalam:
 

Moonlight_88

New Member
Salam3laykum

JazakhAllah khair for the eye opener but it brings one question to my mind...are they trying to divide the Muslims so they disobey their leaders and cause confrontations and arguments within our own lands?? but at the same time, we cannot not deny the division and the politics that exist within our Muslim lands.

We know there are many Muslim leaders that have acted in a manner that was shocking and surely should have known better!!

The other thing is, how can we trust wiki leaks.

very good question akhi, how authentic is this information?
 

sister herb

Official TTI Chef
US briefed Palestinians on Wikileaks cache
Published today (updated) 28/11/2010 20:24

By George Hale

BETHLEHEM (Ma'an) -- The United States has informed the Palestinian government in Ramallah that some of the hundreds of thousands of diplomatic cables set for releaqse by the whistle-blowing group Wikileaks will deal with US-Palestinian relations.

Washington's message, delivered by phone to the Office of the President a few days in advance of the scheduled release, was quick and to the point: Don't overreact.

"They aren't making a big deal out of it, and they hope we won't either," a senior Palestinian official, speaking on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the issue, told Ma'an. "But when they're telling us, 'Don't overreact,' that basically translates as, 'There's something you're not going to like.'"

According to the message from the US, some of the leaked cables will confirm assumptions about America's support for Israel over the Palestinians in the peace process. They will also articulate Washington's stance against the inter-Palestinian reconciliation talks, the PA has been told.

The US has in recent days briefed other allies like Australia, Britain, Canada, Israel and Turkey, according to officials in those countries, ahead of the massive distribution of material expected late Sunday.

But as far as the Palestinians are concerned, the expected disclosure will confirm more US policies than it exposes, the source said. "It's already known that the Americans are against reconciliation. It's known that they love [Fatah strongman] Muhammad Dahlan. And it's known that they, frankly, love Israel."

The Israelis were also keeping a low profile hours ahead of the release. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Sunday that Israel, a close US ally, would not be "the center of international attention."

Israel was not warned by the Americans about any specific sensitive materials, he said.

"In our contacts with the Americans, as you know we have constant contacts with them, there was no specific details about what was to be revealed regarding us," Netanyahu told reporters.

WikiLeaks chief Julian Assange said earlier Sunday that Washington had "contacted the governments of almost every nation on earth to brief them about what some of these embarrassing revelations will do.

"They're in a rather unusual difficult position where it is not sure precisely what is going to be revealed. So it has been treading this rather thin line on briefing its allies on what it thinks we are going to reveal."


AFP contributed to this report.
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=336864
 

fatma_said

Junior Member
How to decipher codes by US dispaches

Asalamu alykum

sorry to hijack your thread abu talib but i though this was VERY interesting and related to the wikileaks reports

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Abu Talib

Feeling low
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Hey thanks for the inputs on the decipher. This is actually how it looks

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Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

This is what the Americans are saying:

THE COMPLETE IDIOT'S GUIDE TO WIKILEAKS LATEST DOCUMENT DUMP

Michael Rivero

Wikileaks, following much media fanfare (reason for suspicion right there) has just released a huge number of documents supposedly leaked to WikiLeaks and no other websites'. The media is denouncing this as a threat to the United States while US politicians wring their hands and wonder when they will be free of the curse of the First Amendment and all that troublesome nonsense about Freedom of Speech. Many observers think this is a propaganda set up and that neither Julian Assange or WikiLaeks should be taken at face value. After all, Julian Assange keeps insisting there was no 9-11 conspiracy and the 9-11 truth movement a "distraction." Apparently Julian Assange has patented conspiracy and nobody else may expose one except himself!

Of course, there is really not that much that is new in this latest dump. Like prior WikiLeaks dumps, most of it is old news mixed with some rather dubious claims. In his last such dump, Julian Assange included a claim that Osama bin Laden is still alive and controlling Al Qaeda. Of course, it is well documented outside the United States that Osama bin Laden has been dead for many years and that Al Qaeda itself is a fake front group created to hoax Americans into endless wars of conquest, much as the fictional Emmanuel Goldstein was used in George Orwell's "1984."

In yet another infamous propaganda attempt, WikiLeaks tried to claim that weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq, justifying the invasion. No such weapons were ever found.

As for the present batch of documents, again it is a rehash of stories already known to the blog-o-sphere. Even those people who did not know US diplomats spy on their United Nations counterparts did not find it surprising or in any way a new idea.

So what is the real purpose of Assange's little charade? Propaganda.

Propaganda is like rat poison. 95% of it is tasty, healthy food. But the purpose is to get you to swallow the poison. The same is true of the WikiLeaks document dump. The bait are all these old stories which we already knew about, used to convince us that the entire pile is "tasty, healthy food," except that it isn't. Buried in the pile of delicious, albeit past the expiration date morsels are the bits of poison which the US Government knows you will no longer accept at face value from the controlled media, but hope you will eat if handed to you by a con artist posing as hostile to the government.

So, given that 95% of the current WikiLeaks is really old news, as a public service I will point out the bits of poison that Julian hopes you will eat.

1. Iran is bad so you should all want to kill them.

2. Saudi Arabia is bad because they are funding Al Qaeda so you should all want to kill them.

3. North Korea is bad because they gave really long range missiles to Iran for Iran to put their nuclear warheads in, so you should all want to kill them.

4. China is messing with your computers, so you should all want to kill them.

That about sums it up. Oh yes, there is nothing negative about Israel in all these diplomatic messages, an impossibility given the lethal Israeli attack on the Aid Flotilla last May. That suggests who Assange really works for.

Funny thing about rat poison. After a while the rats learn to eat the food and leave the poison behind.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/comidwiki.php
 

Abu Talib

Feeling low
The leaks are funny also like Putin as Alpha Dog, Sarkozy an emperor without clothes..lol

I see some experts saying this could cause WW3 sigh...

These leaks are too informative one might think its not authentic also.
 

Tabassum07

Smile for Allah
:salam2:

I really don't see what the big deal is. But I love the article which Aapa posted above - I'm always skeptical when the media decides to give wide coverage to something.
 
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