Is creating a sim bad?

[Salam2You]

Salam alaikum!

I wanted to ask whether creating a sim is bad.

If you don't know what 'sim' is, it's a game where you can basically make houses, streets, characters etc, and the characters are created as humans and called Sims.

I wondered whether creating a sim is bad, I don't mean to imitate creating someone or something, but I just love being artistic and on the sims you get to like change the face etc.

E.g.

Thank you for reading, please post your comment.
P.S. Again, I don't mean to imitate the fact of 'creating' a soul, it's just a game.

 

[islamdonlyway]

walikumsalam,

wel on the basis that drawing a human being with eyes, nose etc ( human features), wich i think is haram, i think its best to stay away from such a game were you create a charachter with human features.why dont you just keep one character and create and change other things like streets, houses etc...its best to avoid something wer not sure of, inshallah other brothers and sisters can shed more light on it...

 

[haakym]

Asalaamu 'alaykum,

I think it's better to stay away from it from the hadeeth about the picture maker, playing such games may be time wasting (although I'm not innocent of time wasting myself but just advising). Ask yourself could you be doing a good deed that is established in the sunnah rather than playing games or do something whereby you will increase in knowledge.

 

[haakym]

This may be of use:

Is it permissible to draw animate beings and then erase them for fun?
What is the ruling on drawing animate beings for fun and then erasing them straight away?.

Praise be to Allaah.
The texts of sharee’ah indicate that it is haraam to make images and that the image makers are cursed, and they state that they will be the most severely punished of people on the Day of Resurrection.

Al-Bukhaari (5347) narrated that Abu Juhayfah (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) cursed the image makers.

Al-Bukhaari (2225) and Muslim (2110) narrated that Sa’eed ibn Abi’l-Hasan said: A man came to Ibn ‘Abbaas and said: I am a man who makes these images; advise me about that. He said to him: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) say: “Every image maker will be in Hell, and for every image that he made, a soul will be created which will punish him in Hell.” Ibn ‘Abbaas said: If you must do that, then make (images of) trees and inanimate things.

According to another version: “Whoever makes an image in this world will be commanded to breathe the soul into it on the Day of Resurrection, and he will not be able to do that.”

And it was narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood (may Allah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) say: “The people who will be most severely punished on the Day of Resurrection will be the image-makers.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (5950) and Muslim (2109).

The scholars of the Standing Committee for Issuing Fatwas said:

Whatever is images of animate beings such as insects and other living beings is not permissible, even if it is drawn on a blackboard or on paper, and even if the purpose of it is to help in teaching, because it is not essential and because of the general meaning of the evidence concerning that. Whatever is not an animate being, it is permissible to draw it for teaching and other purposes. End quote.

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 1/685.

They also said:

What is prohibited is making images of animate beings, whether that is engraving or painting on walls or fabric or paper or woven cloth, and whether it is done with a feather or a pen or other equipment, whether the thing is drawn as it is or whether some imaginary element is introduced, so it is made smaller or larger or more beautiful or more ugly, or it is drawn as a stick figure. End quote.

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 1/696

Shaykh Muhammad ibn Ibraaheem (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

One of the most serious of evils is making images of animate beings and keeping them and using them. There is no difference between that which is three dimensional and that which is on paper, whether it is produced by machines or otherwise. This meaning was mentioned by al-Nawawi in Sharh Saheeh Muslim, and he mentioned that it is the view of the four imams. The hadeeths which emphatically warned against that are well known. End quote.

Fataawa Rasaa’il Muhammad ibn Ibraaheem, 13/173.

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen said:

Making images of animate beings, whether they are human or otherwise, is undoubtedly haraam and is a major sin, because it is proven that the one who does that is cursed by the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). This is clear, whether they are three-dimensional or drawn by hand. End quote.

Majmoo’ Fataawa wa Rasaa’il Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (2/288).

Thus it is clear that drawing animate beings is a major sin, and whatever is like that, it is not permissible to do it for fun. Fun cannot be by doing that which Allah has forbidden. Rather what the believer has to do is refrain from doing it, in obedience to Allah and His Messenger (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him).

If you must draw, then as Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allah be pleased with him) said, draw trees and things that are not animate beings.

And Allah knows best.


Islam Q&A

 

[Salam2You]

Salam alaikum

thank you for your reply, but I'm sure creating a sim isn't bad after all, it's not drawing, it's just making a character rather than drawing, it's only a game, and I don't intend to draw neither do I intend to create souls, again I feel it's a game.

Does anyone disagree with that? Please do tell, I want to hear some opinions

thank you!

 

[haakym]

Salam alaikum

thank you for your reply, but I'm sure creating a sim isn't bad after all, it's not drawing, it's just making a character rather than drawing, it's only a game, and I don't intend to draw neither do I intend to create souls, again I feel it's a game.

Does anyone disagree with that? Please do tell, I want to hear some opinions

thank you!

Wa alaykum asalaam

You're welcome, yes you're right you're not drawing it explicitly, however from what I can gather it would come under the same rulings aforementioned. As scholars have said that photography of animate beings is not allowed (which is not explicitly drawing) and bring strong evidence, I will try and post something about that later.

Again back to my point that I mentioned earlier, is this beneficial to you? We are advised to stay away from doubtful matters so ask yourself on the yawm al qiyamah when you will receive your book of deeds, do you really want to see this on there? When you could have been doing something beneficial. I'm asking you like this as when I come to a similar issue I try to look at it from this angle and usually find an answer within myself. May Allah provide you guidance in this matter.

And Allah knows best.

Wassalaamu alaykum

 

[bari]

as salam. We need to consult western scholers, this needs to be discussed in the light of situation. To many fatwas......

 

[Salam2You]

Salam alaikum!

Thank you for your replies.

I've decided not to play it, it's a waste of my life and I kept feeling guilty in a way of the consequences which could happen if I did play it.

Alhamdulillah I chose right

JazakAllah khair to you all!!

 

[Sakeena]

Salam alaikum!

Thank you for your replies.

I've decided not to play it, it's a waste of my life and I kept feeling guilty in a way of the consequences which could happen if I did play it.

Alhamdulillah I chose right

JazakAllah khair to you all!!

As-salaamu Alaikum sister,

It's a computer game. Play it if you want to. It's not haraam, it's a fun game. I play it all the time. It's so much fun alhamdulilah. I love to draw too. I could care less about what other Muslims tell me about this. Allah blessed me with a gift and drawing and art is my talent mashaAllah.

I'm not going to consult with a scholar about drawing and painting. It's pure talent and creativity. Allah has blessed many people with gifts: art, music, singing, dancing, jewelry design, great cooks, etc. I don't care if the people on here get angry at me or delete my post or whatever. I'm telling you my own opinion about how I feel about it. Allah (swt) isn't going to put me or anyone in hell for expressing your creativity or harnessing a gift that He (The ALMIGHTY) blessed me with.

 

[Salam2You]

Salam sister Sakeena!

Isn't the punishment of drawing souls really really severe?
MashAllah you have creativity but I fear the punishments, do you feel drawing souls are bad?

As well as the Sims, editing the face like the nose size and so on isn't bad either?

Please reply back with your opinion again

 

[haakym]

As-salaamu Alaikum sister,

It's a computer game. Play it if you want to. It's not haraam, it's a fun game. I play it all the time. It's so much fun alhamdulilah. I love to draw too. I could care less about what other Muslims tell me about this. Allah blessed me with a gift and drawing and art is my talent mashaAllah.

I'm not going to consult with a scholar about drawing and painting. It's pure talent and creativity. Allah has blessed many people with gifts: art, music, singing, dancing, jewelry design, great cooks, etc. I don't care if the people on here get angry at me or delete my post or whatever. I'm telling you my own opinion about how I feel about it. Allah (swt) isn't going to put me or anyone in hell for expressing your creativity or harnessing a gift that He (The ALMIGHTY) blessed me with.

Wa alaykum asalaam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatahu,

Sister jazakAllah khayr for your post. I completely agree with you that if you are blessed with a talent you should use it to the best of your ability, but in Islam we have to follow Allah's commands. We know from the revelation of the Qur'an that Allah is the all wise and that he knows what is best for his creation and that we should follow his commands, as worship and obedience to him is the purpose of our existence. Therefore I say as a sincere advice that it is not wise to overlook Allah's commands and disobeying him by way of ignorance or following ones desires.

So I would like to ask if you agree with what I have said?

 

[Salam2You]

Salam2You!

Masha'Allah you both have very great opinions...

I agree with haakym though, we have talent in a way but we can't use it in any wrong manner.
Instead of being a popstar, you can listen to your beautiful voice alone by singing nasheeds or naats
Instead of drawing souls you can draw still things, and still be creative about it.

We all know we're blessed with something, but Allah is the knower of all things.

You know how it's said: The dunya for the believers: prison, for the disbeliever's: Paradise; I kind of relate this subject to this... We can't complete out dreams (e.g. being famous and so on) and desires, that's why it's kinda like a prison, but think about it, Jannah awaits those who strive hard.

For us Muslims it's a challenge, but it's worth it

 

[Sakeena]

Wa alaykum asalaam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatahu,

Sister jazakAllah khayr for your post. I completely agree with you that if you are blessed with a talent you should use it to the best of your ability, but in Islam we have to follow Allah's commands. We know from the revelation of the Qur'an that Allah is the all wise and that he knows what is best for his creation and that we should follow his commands, as worship and obedience to him is the purpose of our existence. Therefore I say as a sincere advice that it is not wise to overlook Allah's commands and disobeying him by way of ignorance or following ones desires.

So I would like to ask if you agree with what I have said?

There is nothing wrong about drawing.

 

[Sakeena]

I LOVE to draw!

Salam alaikum

thank you for your reply, but I'm sure creating a sim isn't bad after all, it's not drawing, it's just making a character rather than drawing, it's only a game, and I don't intend to draw neither do I intend to create souls, again I feel it's a game.

Does anyone disagree with that? Please do tell, I want to hear some opinions

thank you!

I can't create a soul. No one can create a soul except Allah!!!! I'm drawing my characters in hijab. How could you even say that sister????? :astag: I don't draw any *!*!*!*! or anything evil. You've got it all wrong. I'm not using my talent for evil. I'm using my talent, the gift that ALLAH (SWT) Himself blessed me with!!! You guys are extremists. You judge others but you hate to be judged. And then you have the nerve to get angry when I don't agree with you. It seems that whenever a Muslim disagrees, you guys can't stand them. SubhanAllah. I know in my heart that I'm not doing anything wrong and I have nothing to hide. You either watch it or you don't. But don't you dare try to go around and convince people to stop following their dreams that Allah (SWT) has made a clear path for. Allah blesses some people with extraordinary gifts and they have every right to fulfill them. Sister Salam2You, you should use your own judgment and do what you think is right. I don't listen to these people because anything that they say is bad, they going right along with it. When I tell this to other members, they always shut me out. But I don't care. I'm not giving up my dreams. I can't have a career as a successful cartoonist and still live a good Islamic life inshaAllah! I'm a cartoonist, very talented mashaAllah and I'm not doing anything evil. Of course you'll believe whatever they tell you. People like that, even if they're Muslim, are closed-minded.

 

[justoneofmillion]

I can't create a soul. No one can create a soul except Allah!!!! I'm drawing my characters in hijab. How could you even say that sister????? :astag: I don't draw any *!*!*!*! or anything evil. You've got it all wrong. I'm not using my talent for evil. I'm using my talent, the gift that ALLAH (SWT) Himself blessed me with!!! You guys are extremists. You judge others but you hate to be judged. And then you have the nerve to get angry when I don't agree with you. It seems that whenever a Muslim disagrees, you guys can't stand them. SubhanAllah. I know in my heart that I'm not doing anything wrong and I have nothing to hide. You either watch it or you don't. But don't you dare try to go around and convince people to stop following their dreams that Allah (SWT) has made a clear path for. Allah blesses some people with extraordinary gifts and they have every right to fulfill them. Sister Salam2You, you should use your own judgment and do what you think is right. I don't listen to these people because anything that they say is bad, they going right along with it. When I tell this to other members, they always shut me out. But I don't care. I'm not giving up my dreams. I can't have a career as a successful cartoonist and still live a good Islamic life inshaAllah! I'm a cartoonist, very talented mashaAllah and I'm not doing anything evil. Of course you'll believe whatever they tell you. People like that, even if they're Muslim, are closed-minded.

:salam2:Little sister sakeena, stop yelling at people Me Oyes!

I don't think the brothers and sisters were harsh with you.In fact they have been more diplomatic than SantaClaus himself.None of them has called each other names or discouraged their faith,alhamudlillah

Try to see it as a way for them to show you their love in wanting to share with you what they percieve as right,inshallah.

May Allah swt help you find the right decision and guide you and the brothers towards what pleases him , may he forgive our mistakes and judge us for our intentions when we fall short.ameen.may Allah be with all of you always.

 

[haakym]

There is nothing wrong about drawing.

Asalaamu 'alaykum,

Sister thank you for your reply. I am honestly not concerned with drawing, I was asking if you had understood the points I was making in the post. Which were:

• Allah's perfect wisdom - we know about this from the following ayah:

  Only He [Allaah] is The All-Knowing, The All-Wise. [Qur’aan, soorat at-Tahreem (66): 2].

• The purpose of creation - which is worshipping Allah. As Allah says in the Qur'an:

  And I did not create the jinn and mankind except that they should worship Me. [Qur’aan, soorat ath-Thaariyaat (51): 56].

• Importance of following Allah's commands - We know Allah is the most wise and commands us to do good because it benefits us and that we will be held accountable for our actions and rewarded or punished accordingly. Allah says in the Qu'ran:

  Did you think that We created you in play and (for no purpose) and that you would not be brought back to Us? (for requital?) [Qur’aan, soorat al-Mu’minoon (23): 115].

So sister, I was asking if you agreed with these points as I believed in your previous post (where you mentioned you like drawing) you had overlooked some fundamental concepts all Muslims should follow (like the ones in bullet points above).

But perhaps I had misunderstood you? In such case I would hope you would try to explain to me what you were saying. I am not trying to attack you and hope I hadn't come across harshly as I was quite shocked to see your last post, hope no offence was caused.

 

[Sakeena]

Asalaamu 'alaykum,

Sister thank you for your reply. I am honestly not concerned with drawing, I was asking if you had understood the points I was making in the post. Which were:

• Allah's perfect wisdom - we know about this from the following ayah:
• The purpose of creation - which is worshipping Allah. As Allah says in the Qur'an:
• Importance of following Allah's commands - We know Allah is the most wise and commands us to do good because it benefits us and that we will be held accountable for our actions and rewarded or punished accordingly. Allah says in the Qu'ran:

So sister, I was asking if you agreed with these points as I believed in your previous post (where you mentioned you like drawing) you had overlooked some fundamental concepts all Muslims should follow (like the ones in bullet points above).

But perhaps I had misunderstood you? In such case I would hope you would try to explain to me what you were saying. I am not trying to attack you and hope I hadn't come across harshly as I was quite shocked to see your last post, hope no offence was caused.

Walaikum Asalaam brother,

No, no, I agree with the points you wrote. I believe I overlooked them and I was determined to get my point across. I totally agree that Allah (swt) is most wise and everything. I'm sorry if I seem aggressive at all, I'm actually not. I just like to get my point across. I should be more gentle!! But I'm still a cartoonist, that's my chosen career path. Alhamdulilah! No offense at all brother, that's just me. That's just the feisty Sakeena lol.

Please forgive me if I offended you or anyone else on this thread inshallah. I just want to explain that there is a good way to drawing characters (in hijab and jilbab/loose clothes that cover the shape of the body, etc). The same for the male characters (maybe a loose and comfy thobe and a kufi or maybe a suit with a tie and a hat, etc.) My characters dress the same way I would dress when I go out (modestly-hijab and a dress that comes down to the knees with some pants under them (I haven't invested in an abaya/kaftan/jilbab yet, so for now, this is what I do sometimes inshallah).

One more thing, as a revert...coming from a non-Muslim household where I can't speak freely about my faith, even when I'm at a friend's house, I still feel like screaming. I hope you understand inshallah.

 

[Salam2You]

Salam alaikum!

Sister Sakeena, brother haakym, thank you so much for your concerns and opinions, may Allah reward you both with a high status of Jannah! Ameen.

What about making clothes for the sims?
Cause you can customize clothes by making your own, wondered if that's okay..

 

[Sakeena]

Salam alaikum!

Sister Sakeena, brother haakym, thank you so much for your concerns and opinions, may Allah reward you both with a high status of Jannah! Ameen.

What about making clothes for the sims?
Cause you can customize clothes by making your own, wondered if that's okay..

Walaikum As-salaam little sister.

Well, as long as your Sims are wearing clothes lol joking. That's fine if you ask me inshallah. Your not creating a soul by customizing clothes for your Sims. It's almost like designing your own fashion, but it's on a computer. Now sister, you know that you want to play the Sims. I know I do when I get my new laptop next week inshallah. It's just a computer game. When it comes to your Sims behavior, you have make them Muslim! Make them dress, behave, and live live Muslims. For example, instead of sending Sarah and Yousaf out on a date, they can have a chaperoned outing to the park or something. If they like each other, they can get married inshallah, then it will be halaal for them and halaal for you to play with ease if that will make you feel better by following certain rules when playing if you decide to do so inshallah. That's my advice. our Sims don't have to live or act like the kafir--they can do and be whatever you want them to be!! That's why so many people love the Sims mashaAllah! :ma:

 

[Kakorot]

Ya Mabood, Islam is not taken from one's mind/intellect/what they think. There is no such thing as 'my opinion' in Islam. We're not Christians or Jews where we just choose what to follow/believe when it suits us. We have to take Islam from what the qur'aan and sunnah say. They are there for a reason.