Why obey God?

abjad

AlHamd Li'Laah
Brothers in Islam!
’Islam’ means total surrender to Allah and the messenger, and that no one can become truly Muslim unless he gives up obedience to anyone or anything apart from God.
But why is so much stress laid on obedience to God and His Messenger?
You may ask: Does God need our obedience so badly that He has to demand it so insistently from us?
Is He, too, like the rulers of the world so power-hungry that He has to insist His rule cannot be sustained without these subjugating us?
Let us try to examine these questions.
 

kashif_nazeer

~~~Alhamdulillah~~~
:salam2:

Valid question brother.
Whom else will one obey if he doesn't obey God?
People?
His ownself?
God is free of needs but we are the ones in need.
The obedience is for our own good.Lest we wander in darkness enslaved by people and our ownselves.Obedience to God absolves us of slavery of people and of our ownselves.
As it says in the 19th verse of Surah Al Hashr in the interpretation of the meaning ,
"And be not like those who forgot Allah ,then He made them forget their selves.They are the ones who are defiantly disobedient."

The obedience to Allah is for our ownselves and not a least bit of harm can we do by disobeying Allah.Yes,we can harm ourselves by disobeying Allah.
If we do good ,we do it for ourselves,if we do bad we do it for ourselves.

Allah is oft forgiving Most Merciful,He revealed the books so that we might be guided and be saved from the torment of a day that will turn children grey haired.
 

Ron-Kid

HasbunAllahu wa ni`mal Wakil '
Brothers in Islam!
’Islam’ means total surrender to Allah and the messenger, and that no one can become truly Muslim unless he gives up obedience to anyone or anything apart from God.
But why is so much stress laid on obedience to God and His Messenger?
You may ask: Does God need our obedience so badly that He has to demand it so insistently from us?
Is He, too, like the rulers of the world so power-hungry that He has to insist His rule cannot be sustained without these subjugating us?
Let us try to examine these questions.

Are you a Muslim?

If no, you cud have asked it personally to ur Muslim friends around

If yes, Dont you have any scholar or local Emaam who cud help you, asking questions like this will only leave you unfaithful and you will lack the true knowledge and essence of this wonderful and great Faith.

power-hungry? this is really bad to give our Lord with such a lame claim, you should firstly know that you are nothing more than just another creation of the Almighty, Al-powerful ALLAH [swt]. There are too many Angels prostrates and obey our Divine Lord and he is free from all needs.

"O mankind! It is you who stand in need of Allah ,but Allah is Rich (Free of all wants and needs), Worthy of All Praise." (Qur'an, 35:15)

The other attributes such as power-hungry can be compared to those who are greedy rulers of this world and it is understood clearly that Almighty Allah is free of all kinds of needs in terms of His attributes .

Think repetitively before asking such questions, although it won't affect the Emaan of the True believer , it sounds more deceptive

I would appreciate the readers to ignore this and request the moderator/s to kindly delete this post.

Wassalam
 

sultanb

Junior Member
Yes, Allah does not need our salat. Allah is self-sufficient. It says so in the Qur'an.

Instead all these are for our own good when we enter our true life, where time is infinite. There is no place for arrogance in the hereafter. The only place where arrogance is accepted is Hell. It is what makes Adam, Eve, and the whisperer to be put on Earth. Earth is the place of trials, we are free to obey or to deny.

Therefore Allah does not need our obedience nor is He demanding it. The Qur'an is just a book of reminder and good or bad tidings of reward fitting for the deed. He is also not power-hungry, instead we humans are the arrogant one accepting the trial to go to Earth. Early in our creation we acknowledge God, and then some went to become deniers of Truth, some submit to the Truth.

It is also in the Qur'an, but currently I don't have the resource to find the reference, maybe others will.

There might be some mistakes in my comment and mistakes are of mine and my misunderstanding, I seek refuge in Allah.
 

kashif_nazeer

~~~Alhamdulillah~~~
The only place where arrogance is accepted is Hell.

:salam2:

This is one of the best things I have read in a while and on spot.
Hell is the dwelling place of the arrogant indeed.


فَادْخُلُوا أَبْوَابَ جَهَنَّمَ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا ۖ فَلَبِئْسَ مَثْوَى الْمُتَكَبِّرِينَ

So enter the gates of Hell to abide eternally therein, and how wretched is the residence of the arrogant.[16:29]

May Allah make us humble.Ameen.
:wasalam:
 

abjad

AlHamd Li'Laah
Are you a Muslim?

If no, you cud have asked it personally to ur Muslim friends around

If yes, Dont you have any scholar or local Emaam who cud help you, asking questions like this will only leave you unfaithful and you will lack the true knowledge and essence of this wonderful and great Faith.

power-hungry? this is really bad to give our Lord with such a lame claim, you should firstly know that you are nothing more than just another creation of the Almighty, Al-powerful ALLAH [swt]. There are too many Angels prostrates and obey our Divine Lord and he is free from all needs.

"O mankind! It is you who stand in need of Allah ,but Allah is Rich (Free of all wants and needs), Worthy of All Praise." (Qur'an, 35:15)

The other attributes such as power-hungry can be compared to those who are greedy rulers of this world and it is understood clearly that Almighty Allah is free of all kinds of needs in terms of His attributes .

Think repetitively before asking such questions, although it won't affect the Emaan of the True believer , it sounds more deceptive

I would appreciate the readers to ignore this and request the moderator/s to kindly delete this post.

Wassalam[/QUOT
Easy man !

Are we True Muslims


http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87032&highlight=
 

kalamazoo

'Millat "IBRAHIM" {AleyhiSalaam}
Essentially, the demand for obedience to Allah is intended for the will-being and betterment of man himself. He is not like the rulers of the world. They subjugate people to benefit themselves, but Allah needs nothing from anybody. He is not need of taxes from you, nor does He require building mansions, buys cars and amassing luxury articles at your expense. He is not dependent on anyone for anything. Whatever is in the world belongs to Him alone and He alone is the master of all treasures.

He demands obedience from you only because He does not want man-that creation of His whom He has declared to be the noblest- to be the servant of another man like him, or of Satan or bow his head before unworthy things. He does to desire that His vicegerents on earth grope in the darkness of ignorance and, like animals, become slaves to their desire and thus degrade themselves to the level of the lowest if the low.
Therefore he urges:
You obey me and walk by the light I have sent through my messengers.
You will find the straight path. By walking on it you will receive dignity in this world as well as in the Hereafter.


 

abjad

AlHamd Li'Laah
Our Well-being

Essentially, the demand for obedience to Allah is intended for the well-being and betterment of man himself. He is not like the rulers of the world.



They subjugate people to benefit themselves, but Allah needs nothing from anybody. He is not need of taxes from you, nor does He require building mansions, buys cars and amassing luxury articles at your expense. He is not dependent on anyone for anything. Whatever is in the world belongs to Him alone and He alone is the master of all treasures.

He demands obedience from you only because He does not want man-that creation of His whom He has declared to be the noblest- to be the servant of another man like him, or of Satan or bow his head before unworthy things.

He does to desire that His vicegerents on earth grope in the darkness of ignorance and, like animals, become slaves to their desire and thus degrade themselves to the level of the lowest if the low. Therefore he urges: You obey me and walk by the light I have sent through my messengers. You will find the straight path. By walking on it you will receive dignity in this world as well as in the Hereafter.


(2:256) There is no compulsion and coercion in regard to religion. The right thing has been made distinct from the wrong thing: now whoever rejects taghut and believes in Allah has taken a firm support that never gives way. (2:257) And Allah (Whose support he takes) hears everything and knows everything. Allah is the Helper and Protector of those who believe in Him: He brings them out of the depths of darkness into the light. As for the disbelievers, they have taghut as their patron, who drives them out of light into the depths of darkness. These are the people who are doomed to the Fire, wherein they shall live for ever.



Obeying others besides Allah
 

abjad

AlHamd Li'Laah
Obeying others besides Allah

Why will a man Plunge into darkness by obeying others besides Allah and why is it that only by obeying Allah cans his life be illuminated?



Let us look into this important question.

Our lives are made up of countless relations and transactions.



Our first relationship is with our own bodies:

these hands,

these feet,

these eyes,

these ears,

these tongues,

these hearts,

and the mind, this belly- all these have been entrusted to you by Allah to server you. You have also been given freedom to decide what end to employ them.

What to put in your bellies, and what to avoid. What to make your hands do and what to keep them away from. Where to let your feet walk and when to hold back. What to let your eyes see and ears hear, and what to refrain from, what to allow your tongues to say, and when to fall silent. What kind of thoughts to make your hearts and minds reflect upon, and what to shun. These servants of yours you can make do good work or bad, as you choose. In return, they can make you ascend great heights or plunge you into abysmal depths.

Then you have relationships with the members of your family-with you fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers, wives, children and other relatives with whom you have to deal continuously. You have to decide how to behave with these people, what rights they have over you. Your comfort, your happiness and your success in this world as well as in the Hereafter depend very much on how correctly you behave with them. If you behave wrongly, you will make this world a Hell for yourselves. And in the Hereafter, too, you will have to answer to God.

You have relationship with many other people.


They are your neighbors,

friends and enemies.

There are also many who work for you in various ways. To some you have to give something. Some entrust you with their works while you entrust your works to others.



You are in command over some people and others are in command over you. In this world, your happiness, your honor and your good names-all depend entirely on your ability to maintain these relationships properly.
In the Hereafter, too, you can acquire places of honour near God only by scrupulously avoiding abusing the rights of others and doing them injustices. There, let no one charge you with having ruined his life or having illegally his honour, life or property. You, therefore, have to maintain these relationships in a proper manner; actions which may spoil or disrupt these relations should be avoided.

Now consider: in order to maintain proper relationships with your one body, with the members of your families and with all other people, you need the light of knowledge at every step. You have to know what is right and what is wrong; what is true and what is false; what is just and what is unjust; what rights you have over others and what rights others have over you; in what there is real benefits and what lies real harm.
If you try to find this knowledge with the help of your reason and feelings alone, you will not find it. Because you’re self is overpowered by the urge to immediate gratification of desires. Your reason and feelings are, therefore, ruled by physical pleasure and immediate temptations. They will tempt you to earn money by doing illegal things, drink alcohol and commit adultery. They will lead you to usurp the right of others and with held things due to them on the grounds that such behaviour will profit you: take everything and give nothing. They will also make you exploit others to serves your ends while avoiding the doing of any service to anybody, arguing that this will make life easy and comfortable.

If you allow yourself to be led by a self who gropes in such darkness, it will drag you down to the level of selfish, depraved and corrupt persons and your lives both on earth and in the Hereafter will be ruined.

Alternatively, instead of following the self, you may rely on other human beings like yourselves, and place yourselves in their hands to take you in whichever direction they like. The dangers in such a course are obvious: selfish persons may make you slaves of their own desires, and ignorant men, who have themselves gone astray, may mislead you also. Tyrants may use you to perpetrate oppression and injustice on others.
From human beings like yourselves, too, you cannot get that light of knowledge which can guide you to distinguish between right and wrong, between good and bad, and direct you on the right path.

The only True Guidance
 
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