Article Concerning Non-Muslims in the West whom Islam did not Reach Properly

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
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Questioner:
Nowadays, a non-Muslim from Europe, for example, who dies and was brought up in a corrupt environment, and Allaah’s Refuge is sought, with no-one conveying the Islamic religion to him, and even if it had reached him, it did so in a form of disarray such that he did not want to enter it, so I don’t know … do such people come under the ruling of those whom the message did not reach [Ahlul-Fatrah] or is there a major difference [between them?]

Al-Albaani: No [there is no difference], such people are like those of the Fatrah whom the call did not reach, they will go through a special process on the arasaat on the Day of Resurrection.

Questioner: What about these people? [The questioner hasn’t understood clearly that the Shaikh was referring to the people the questioner asked about]

Al-Albaani: Who am I speaking to you about? These people are like the Ahlul-Fatrah, they will go through a special process on the arasaat on the Day of Resurrection, so neither a ruling of them being in Paradise or the Fire is given to them here.

Questioner: Does arasaat mean pathways?

Al-Albaani: The arasaat is the place where the people will be gathered.

Questioner: One of them who dies now, who will his right be upon, for example?

Al-Albaani: Who will what?

Questioner: His right will be upon whom, ya’ni, who will be responsible for him … who will bear the burden of his mistakes and his sin? Is it the Muslims for example … who didn’t go to him and convey the religion to him?

Al-Albaani: Which type are you talking about, is it the type that you asked about first?

Questioner: It’s the same question that we’re in, a person who, for example, dies in France, America, Britain, Germany and so on, and he had no one who conveyed the religion to him?

Al-Albaani: May Allaah guide you. At this very moment you have just judged that there is a sin on these people?

Questioner: How?

Al-Albaani: At this very moment you have just judged that there is a sin on them?

Questioner: A sin, ya’ni, for example the people who never conveyed it to them is what I mean.

Al-Albaani: I know what you mean, may Allaah guide you, did you understand from what I said that these people whom the da’wah did not reach and who died are sinful?

Questioner: No, I didn’t understand it to mean that.

Al-Albaani: Okay, you understand that they are not sinful?

Questioner: Yes, I understand.

Al-Albaani: So then how can you say, ‘Who will bear the burden of their sin?’

Questioner: Ah yes, true.

Al-Hudaa wan-Noor, 326. [1/5/846]
 

HirraJaved

Junior Member
is this for real? meaning that we will be held accountable for whom the message did not reach? Tell me some good ways to spread islam if you know any please. I go to middle school bye the way so what can i tell the kids there to teach them about our religion?
 

uniqueskates

Rabbe Zidni Illma
is this for real? meaning that we will be held accountable for whom the message did not reach? Tell me some good ways to spread islam if you know any please. I go to middle school bye the way so what can i tell the kids there to teach them about our religion?

Ahhh.. You have to read it again sister. :) It is Allah who decides who will be accountable. In the end, the respected Shaikh gives another piece of wisdom. :)
 

HirraJaved

Junior Member
Ahhh.. You have to read it again sister. :) It is Allah who decides who will be accountable. In the end, the respected Shaikh gives another piece of wisdom. :)
oh i get it thank you. neither of us gets sin for that matter. Only Allah subhanu wa ta'la can decide. thank you brother.
 

Violetta

Member
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Questioner:
Nowadays, a non-Muslim from Europe, for example, who dies and was brought up in a corrupt environment, and Allaah’s Refuge is sought, with no-one conveying the Islamic religion to him, and even if it had reached him, it did so in a form of disarray such that he did not want to enter it, so I don’t know … do such people come under the ruling of those whom the message did not reach [Ahlul-Fatrah] or is there a major difference [between them?]

Al-Albaani: No [there is no difference], such people are like those of the Fatrah whom the call did not reach, they will go through a special process on the arasaat on the Day of Resurrection.

Questioner: What about these people? [The questioner hasn’t understood clearly that the Shaikh was referring to the people the questioner asked about]

Al-Albaani: Who am I speaking to you about? These people are like the Ahlul-Fatrah, they will go through a special process on the arasaat on the Day of Resurrection, so neither a ruling of them being in Paradise or the Fire is given to them here.

Questioner: Does arasaat mean pathways?

Al-Albaani: The arasaat is the place where the people will be gathered.

Questioner: One of them who dies now, who will his right be upon, for example?

Al-Albaani: Who will what?

Questioner: His right will be upon whom, ya’ni, who will be responsible for him … who will bear the burden of his mistakes and his sin? Is it the Muslims for example … who didn’t go to him and convey the religion to him?

Al-Albaani: Which type are you talking about, is it the type that you asked about first?

Questioner: It’s the same question that we’re in, a person who, for example, dies in France, America, Britain, Germany and so on, and he had no one who conveyed the religion to him?

Al-Albaani: May Allaah guide you. At this very moment you have just judged that there is a sin on these people?

Questioner: How?

Al-Albaani: At this very moment you have just judged that there is a sin on them?

Questioner: A sin, ya’ni, for example the people who never conveyed it to them is what I mean.

Al-Albaani: I know what you mean, may Allaah guide you, did you understand from what I said that these people whom the da’wah did not reach and who died are sinful?

Questioner: No, I didn’t understand it to mean that.

Al-Albaani: Okay, you understand that they are not sinful?

Questioner: Yes, I understand.

Al-Albaani: So then how can you say, ‘Who will bear the burden of their sin?’

Questioner: Ah yes, true.

Al-Hudaa wan-Noor, 326. [1/5/846]
 

SonOfAdam

Well-Known Member
Staff member
I like the questioner too always feel responsible that I should convey the message more. Jazzak Allahu Khair, this has put my heart at rest a bit.
 

MehmetHilmi

Junior Member
Well I don't know how reliable Wikipedia would be but I recently read about this. There are two different views on this issue (Ash'ari and Maturidi).

"Another point where Ash'aris and Maturidis differ regarding the role of human reason is divine amnesty for certain non-Muslims in the afterlife. The Ash'ari view as explained by al-Ghazali says that a non-Muslim who was unreached by the message of Islam, or was reached by it in a distorted fashion, is not responsible for this in the afterlife. The Maturidi view states that the existence of God is so evident and rationally discernible, that every human being who has intellect and the ability to think (thus excluding children and the mentally ill and disabled) and was unreached by the message of Islam and does not believe in God will end up in hell, and divine amnesty is only available to those non-Muslims who believed in God and were unreached by the message."

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maturidi. I mean while the differences between the two schools of theology are generally minor, this difference of opinion seems to be very large. I mean according to one side, divine amnesty will be given to millions of people while according to the other, the same millions of people will be thrown to hell. I am very confused on this issue actually.
 
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