Atheism and its danger

englishelm11

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Atheism is the denial of the existence of the Creator (mighty and majestic is He), whether this is through a sick pattern of thought and morbid point of view, or just out of aversion, obstinacy and stubbornness. It is a disease that affects the mind, and results in an imbalance of thinking and darkness in the heart that makes an atheist unable to think properly and makes him have a misguided heart. He, therefore, is only able to recognize and see concrete materialism. As a result, he applies the ideas of the materialistic school of thought on humans and their beliefs, which lead to his suffering and going further astray. An atheist believes that Man is a mere piece of material on which materialistic laws is applied.

Having Iman in Allah, Who is the only god who deserves to be worshipped, is the quality which is honoured the most, has the highest status and receives the most reward

Iman ash-Shafa&”i

All that poses a threat in that it reduces the reality of man to sheer materialism and a harsh rationality that is deprived of the pleasures and joys of the soul. An atheist- as long as he does not believe in the existence of Allah- does whatever he wants, whenever he wants, without being scared of any torment and without having any feelings of reverence towards any god. This leads to corruption and the eventual destruction of the human natural disposition, in addition to him being a disbeliever of Allah (mighty and majestic is He)or having a tendency to divert the acts of worship, which should be directed only to Almighty Allah, to others. We, therefore, find that there is an abundance of suicides in the history of atheists, whether they were intellectuals or poets. History is full of such incidents and studies have highlighted this. In a World Health Organisation (WHO) study carried out by two experts, Dr. Jose Manuel and the researcher Alessandra Fleishman, about the relationship between religion and suicide, it was proven that the majority of people who take their lives are atheists. This is illustrated in the following diagram:

source:islamkingdom
 

P-Thulhu

Junior Member
While an interesting post. I thin there is a lack of 'Nuance' or 'Finesse' in some aspects of it.

There are shades or gradients in non belief.

There are those who are simply unsure and continue seeking information about faiths.

There are those who, while they have faith, do not place such faith in nay one belief. Continuing to measure all the different practices/tenets etc.

I've seenn an interesting little graph/image. Will try and find it to post.

Wishing every one all the best.
 

Abu Juwairiya

Junior Member
While an interesting post. I thin there is a lack of 'Nuance' or 'Finesse' in some aspects of it.

There are shades or gradients in non belief.

There are those who are simply unsure and continue seeking information about faiths.

You can add the same themes and ideas about unbelief in faith or belief in atheism itself.

There are those who are simply unsure and continue to seek information about atheism alone.

There are those, while they have faith in atheism, do not place such faith in questioning the possibility they might be wrong, just only in defending it.


There are those who, while they have faith, do not place such faith in nay one belief. Continuing to measure all the different practices/tenets etc.

I've seenn an interesting little graph/image. Will try and find it to post.

Wishing every one all the best.
 
As a Christian who use to be an Atheist for many years. I have spoken to many people who claim to be Atheist but they make arguments that are full of errors. They are listening to men like Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Christopher Hitchens, Michael Shermer etc.. who had never studied Christianity & Islam and the theology, so they have to attack faith in God from a selfish point of view. Some of these even believe in Evolution and when asked to prove their arguments are right, they haven't got an answer, some of their statements don't even make any sense. You can clearly see they are angry people and they are lost.
 

Abu Juwairiya

Junior Member
As a Christian who use to be an Atheist for many years. I have spoken to many people who claim to be Atheist but they make arguments that are full of errors. They are listening to men like Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Christopher Hitchens, Michael Shermer etc.. who had never studied Christianity & Islam and the theology, so they have to attack faith in God from a selfish point of view. Some of these even believe in Evolution and when asked to prove their arguments are right, they haven't got an answer, some of their statements don't even make any sense. You can clearly see they are angry people and they are lost.

There are many others who claim to believe in one form of religion or another but accept evolution as well. Religion today to many is largely in name, ritualistic or can be amended at will as if it is an ideology such as socialism, liberalism or the like. Seriousness in religion and theology is seen as outdated in the secular minded world we live in and therefore you do not need to be grounded in knowledge over creed, fundamental belief systems and key features of spiritual enlightenment that make adherents close to God. To many who cannot and can never experience the comfort of piousness and pure consciousness with God, opinions alone suffice and often those based on intellect and flawed logic as opposed to rational thought and actual reasoning.
 

Abu Juwairiya

Junior Member
As a Christian who use to be an Atheist for many years. I have spoken to many people who claim to be Atheist but they make arguments that are full of errors. They are listening to men like Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Christopher Hitchens, Michael Shermer etc.. who had never studied Christianity & Islam and the theology, so they have to attack faith in God from a selfish point of view. Some of these even believe in Evolution and when asked to prove their arguments are right, they haven't got an answer, some of their statements don't even make any sense. You can clearly see they are angry people and they are lost.

You mentioned Richard Dawkins. He is a case in point. What would possess a professor to actively support FEMEN (I may have the name wrong), the organisation that advocates women to go topless in public. If religion argues against immorality, what is it by name when secularists seek to impose their will on religious people and institutions such as FEMEN who are topless in front of churches, masjids and temples and call on people to condemn monotheists and those that belive in morality.
 

Abu Juwairiya

Junior Member
As a Christian who use to be an Atheist for many years. I have spoken to many people who claim to be Atheist but they make arguments that are full of errors. They are listening to men like Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Christopher Hitchens, Michael Shermer etc.. who had never studied Christianity & Islam and the theology, so they have to attack faith in God from a selfish point of view. Some of these even believe in Evolution and when asked to prove their arguments are right, they haven't got an answer, some of their statements don't even make any sense. You can clearly see they are angry people and they are lost.

I would also argue that 'passion' more than and above logic drives secularists to insanity in their condemnation of religion. Passion (wrongly ascribed to 'rights for minorities' and by this referring to LGBT) over rides health concerns (namely AIDS, HIV and other STD diseases), a rise in crime (namely paedophilia) due to the promotion of LGBT in schools and regularity in lowering of the age of consent and also the loss of civil liberties to heterosexuals who wish to protect themselves and their children from what they do not believe in.
 
I would also argue that 'passion' more than and above logic drives secularists to insanity in their condemnation of religion. Passion (wrongly ascribed to 'rights for minorities' and by this referring to LGBT) over rides health concerns (namely AIDS, HIV and other STD diseases), a rise in crime (namely paedophilia) due to the promotion of LGBT in schools and regularity in lowering of the age of consent and also the loss of civil liberties to heterosexuals who wish to protect themselves and their children from what they do not believe in.

As a Christian, I stand with the Muslims who do not want this being promoted in schools. Children and many people are being fed lies. They are being told things that is not true and it confuses them.

Muslim parents want what is best for their children and want them to have a decent education. All this started in the US and it has ended up being promoted in other parts of the world.
 

Abu Juwairiya

Junior Member
As a Christian, I stand with the Muslims who do not want this being promoted in schools. Children and many people are being fed lies. They are being told things that is not true and it confuses them.

Muslim parents want what is best for their children and want them to have a decent education. All this started in the US and it has ended up being promoted in other parts of the world.

Have you heard of the controversial plan implemented in one school in Birmingham where LGBT is now taught at a Muslim majority area. The head teacher, a female, labelled Muslim parents homophobes when they opposed the plan without their consultation. She also banned Muslim parents from the premises when they came to voice their concerns. Police at the protests disproved her anti homosexual tweets on social media by saying Muslim parents were against the plan and not against homosexuality. They also said Muslim parents did not say anything against homosexuals both personally, collectively or inn general. They only spoke against her and against the senior male teacher responsible for introducing it to the school. The same senior male teacher had been kicked out of a Christian school a short time earlier for introducing LGBT there, but that was conveniently not reported or mentioned.
 

Abu Juwairiya

Junior Member
The same plan to introduce LGBT is opposed by Jews, Muslims, Christians and some atheists in the UK, who stand together against it. To the religious minded it is immoral, evil and unethical as well as unhygienic, un natural, evil and against all forms of goodness and virtue.

To the atheist, it is something they oppose, not in the bedroom between consenting adults, but its promotion at such an early age and to innocent children we should be protecting, rather than endangering. Although our purpose and belief systems differ, our aim is the same, we wish to, for sake of argument, remain 'pure and clean' (pro homosexual terms, not mine, to describe us).
 
Have you heard of the controversial plan implemented in one school in Birmingham where LGBT is now taught at a Muslim majority area. The head teacher, a female, labelled Muslim parents homophobes when they opposed the plan without their consultation. She also banned Muslim parents from the premises when they came to voice their concerns. Police at the protests disproved her anti homosexual tweets on social media by saying Muslim parents were against the plan and not against homosexuality. They also said Muslim parents did not say anything against homosexuals both personally, collectively or inn general. They only spoke against her and against the senior male teacher responsible for introducing it to the school. The same senior male teacher had been kicked out of a Christian school a short time earlier for introducing LGBT there, but that was conveniently not reported or mentioned.

Yes that school has had a lot of protestors
 
The same plan to introduce LGBT is opposed by Jews, Muslims, Christians and some atheists in the UK, who stand together against it. To the religious minded it is immoral, evil and unethical as well as unhygienic, un natural, evil and against all forms of goodness and virtue.

To the atheist, it is something they oppose, not in the bedroom between consenting adults, but its promotion at such an early age and to innocent children we should be protecting, rather than endangering. Although our purpose and belief systems differ, our aim is the same, we wish to, for sake of argument, remain 'pure and clean' (pro homosexual terms, not mine, to describe us).

The Secular/Liberal agenda is against what God likes. The Jewish, Christian and Muslim faiths all agree its an abomination.

Myself and some other Christians go to the LGBT prides and get in to discussions. I have also called the churches and emailed them about this and they didnt take any notice.
 

Abu Juwairiya

Junior Member
The Secular/Liberal agenda is against what God likes. The Jewish, Christian and Muslim faiths all agree its an abomination.

Myself and some other Christians go to the LGBT prides and get in to discussions. I have also called the churches and emailed them about this and they didnt take any notice.

We are the minority. Can you believe it? It is not numbers that count any more. It is about policy and who agrees with what the government and what they stand for represent. As long as you accept and agree with their agenda your views and opinions matter. If not, your sentiments, rights and expressions count only as a means to say the government does not suppress you when you oppose their beliefs.
 
We are the minority. Can you believe it? It is not numbers that count any more. It is about policy and who agrees with what the government and what they stand for represent. As long as you accept and agree with their agenda your views and opinions matter. If not, your sentiments, rights and expressions count only as a means to say the government does not suppress you when you oppose their beliefs.

Those who stand up for the Lord will always be looked at as hateful. In Islam there are many Muslims who agree a person cannot be both Gay and Muslim just like there are Christians who agree a person cannot be Gay and Christian as they do not agree with each other.

I remember speaking to a guy who told me he use to be a Transgender and he told me he had to go for councilling because he realised it was wrong and it was like a mental illness to him. God does not make errors in Creation and certainly does not make someone Transgender. The only one who does that is Satan and likes to tell people they are something that they are not. Satan is the father of lies and will continue to be a problem until we all rise up against him.

As a Christian, I urge Christians, Jews and Muslims to stand together against this horrible agenda :)
 

Abu Juwairiya

Junior Member
Those who stand up for the Lord will always be looked at as hateful. In Islam there are many Muslims who agree a person cannot be both Gay and Muslim just like there are Christians who agree a person cannot be Gay and Christian as they do not agree with each other.

I remember speaking to a guy who told me he use to be a Transgender and he told me he had to go for councilling because he realised it was wrong and it was like a mental illness to him. God does not make errors in Creation and certainly does not make someone Transgender. The only one who does that is Satan and likes to tell people they are something that they are not. Satan is the father of lies and will continue to be a problem until we all rise up against him.

As a Christian, I urge Christians, Jews and Muslims to stand together against this horrible agenda :)

I remember speaking to some Muslims and even some Christians who told me they believe they will be given same sex marital partners in Paradise! I was told by others that homosexuality does not take you out of God's Grace, it only makes you sinful.

When you take yourself as the benchmark of morality, goodness, chastity, virtue and all that is pure, in Islam it is an act of what is defined as 'SHIRK'. This word means you have taken God either as an equal (along with others) to yourself or you have removed Him altogether. This is unforgivable and is an act of Divine Treason. The punishment is nothing short of ex
 

Abu Juwairiya

Junior Member
As I was saying before I was timed out.

The punishment is nothing short of expulsion of God's Grace.

Homsexuality, Lesbianism , Third or Neutral Gender, Transgender are un natural, artificial and rejected sexual preferences in a Divine Courtroom.

I do not know of any scripture or classical religion that accepts them (perhaps some new age false and twenty first century irresponsible all embracing sick cults and denominations might embrace them).

Disease will spread like wildfire, paedophilia will increase tenfold, child pornography will multiply immensely and may be even mass murder through child rape will occur as well.
 

Abu Juwairiya

Junior Member
You cannot equate the barrenness of some women as the same as homosexuals and lesbians un natural inability to have children. It is physically impossible for all homosexuals and lesbians to have children through same sex partners. Similarly even if we take the ludicrous claim of insemination as an example of heterosexuals as a means of procreation, the process still involves two opposite genders and never the same sex.
 
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