A distressing discussion with my builder

Hiba_Islam

Junior Member
Assalamu Alaikum brothers and sisters,

I am so happy to be part of this righteous community. This morning I had a distressing discussion with my builder as he always approaches me and my husband with Islamic issues and alhamdoulilah that so far I was doing well.

He claims to be muslim but so many things he said made me doubt that he is shi"a (They arrange their own Friday prayers at home because they dont agree with the commnity mosks, He celebrated yesterday Fatima Zahra (ra) birthday, He beleives the story about slapping Fatima (ra) astaghfuru allah).

Anyway today morning he started discussing something he called Alwassila (invocation) and I was replying just according to my Fitrah that this is "Shirk" astaghfiru lah :girl3:

I found the following article about it that I want to share with you and please do clarify it more to me and what should I do next time he talks about anything? because I already feel awkward talking to him about Islamic issues given that he is the one who starts it.

And he is trying to get my husband into it like inviting him to their gatherings but alhamdoulilah so far we have been politically correct and refused in a polite way.

I am feeling scared and distressed as I have not come across such situation before. May allah help us all and guide us to the right path. Ameen


'Wasila' - Intercession, Ways of Intervention...


Below are the selected passages from a scholarly response given by a learned Scholar Brother Burhan to a few questions on the above subject. To read the entire response, with the quotations from the Hadeeths, and the bio date of Brother Burhan, who happens to be a former Mustealiyyan Shiah Ismaili, please visit:

http://www.islamhelpline.com/



Question:

Brother I want to ask that how much extent the wasila of imams, noble companions, prophet is correct because many time I heard in a darees that "mera soya hai muqadar aey hussain ab jaga do" and etc., I say to my family Allah can do everything, so beg directly to Allah but they said that we take wasila then I said your wasila should be your prayers, ibadaats, deeds, so please tell me that by how much extent wasila should be correct?



Answer:

Beloved brother in Islam, to assume that by invoking in the unseen the righteous imams, or the noble companions of the Holy Prophet (saws), or even the Noble Prophet (saws) himself, or invoking anyone in the Universe other than the One and Only True Lord of the Worlds would be a clear and manifest form of the unforgivable crime of ‘shirk’ in Islam.



To assume that any of the pious departed slaves of Allah Subhanah, or anyone else in creation other than Allah Subhanah Alone can hear one’s invocations in the unseen, let alone has the power and ability to answer them or get them answered, is a clear and manifest form of the most heinous of sins: ‘shirk’ with Allah Subhanah.



One of the Noble and Exclusive Attributes of Allah Subhanah is that He Alone is the All-Hearing or ‘Al-Samee’. To assume that anyone or anything in creation can hear us in the unseen, let alone having the ability and power to answer or respond to our invocations, is to share one of Allah Subhanah’s Exclusive and Sole Attributes with one amongst His creation; and that is a clear and manifest form of the sin of ‘shirk’!



There is not a major Surah in the Quran, where Allah Subhanah has not warned the believers against this heinous practice and abomination of taking ‘wasila’, or invoking others with Allah Subhanah in the unseen! The noble and pious departed slaves of Allah Subhanah never advocated such a practice, nor did it behove them to do so!



Just study these Aayahs of the Glorious Quran to understand and comprehend the Wrath and Anger of Allah Subhanah on those who invoke other beings in creation with Allah Subhanah:



Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 16 Surah Nahl verse 20-21: All the other beings, whom the people invoke with Allah, create nothing! Nay, they are themselves created! They are DEAD, not living, and they do not at all know themselves when they shall again be raised to life!



Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 10 Surah Yunus verse 66: Note it well that all the dwellers of the heavens and the earth belong to Allah. And those who invoke others besides Allah, follow nothing but surmises and merely indulge in guess-works!



Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 35Surah Fatir verses 13-14: He merges night into day, and day into night, and he has subjected the Sun and the Moon (to His Law); each one runs its course for an appointed term. Such is Allah, your Lord! To Him belongs all Dominion. Those whom you invoke besides Him, do not own even a blade of grass! If you call them, they cannot hear your prayers! And if they hear, they cannot answer you! And on the Day of Resurrection, they will disown your ‘shirk’. None can inform you of the Truth, like the One Who is acquainted with all things.



Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 46 Surah Ahqaf verses 4-6: Prophet, say to them, "Have you ever seen them with open eyes those whom you invoke instead of Allah? Show me what they have created in the earth? Or have they any share in the creation and control of the heavens? Bring me a Book revealed before this, or produce some remnant of knowledge in support of your beliefs if you are truthful." And who could be further astray than the one who invokes, instead of Allah, those who cannot answer him till the Day of Resurrection. Nay, they are even UNAWARE THAT THEY ARE BEING INVOKED. And when all mankind shall be gathered together (on the Day of Qiyamah), they (the so called leaders and intercessors) will become enemies of those who invoked them and they will DISOWN THEIR WORSHIP!!!



Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 39 Surah Zumur verse 2-3: So worship Allah Alone, making your religion His exclusively. Beware! Religion is the exclusive Right of Allah. As for those who have taken other ‘auliyas’ (guardians) with Allah (and justify their this conduct by saying): “We serve them only that they may bring us closer to Allah.” Allah will surely judge between them concerning all that in which they differ. Allah does not show guidance to any liar and denier of the Truth.



Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 10 Surah Yunus verse 18: These people serve beside Allah those which can neither harm nor benefit them, and say, “These are our ‘shofa’a’ (intercessors) with Allah!” (O Mohammed), tell them, “Do you wish to inform Allah of that thing which He knows not in the heavens or in the earth?” He is absolutely free from, and exalted above the shirk that they commit.



Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 19 Surah Maryam verses 81-82: These people have set up other gods that Allah, so that they may become their supporters! There will be no supporters! They will not only disown your worship, but also become their opponents.



Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter16 Surah Nahl verses 86-87: When the people who had committed shirk in this world will see those whom they had made associates with Allah, they will say, “Our Lord, here are those associate-deities whom we used to invoke besides You.” At this their deities will retort, “You are liars!” At that time, all of them will proffer submission before Allah, and all that they used to forge in this world shall vanish from them.



Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 7 Surah Aaraf verse 190-196: They associate with Allah partners who do not create anything, but are themselves created; who cannot help them nor have the power (even) to help themselves! If you invite them to follow the Right Way, they will not follow you! It will be all the same for you whether you call them or keep silent. Those whom you invoke with Allah are MERE SERVANTS OF ALLAH LIKE YOU! Just invoke them, and if what you say of them be true, they will answer your prayers! Have they feet that they should walk with them? Or have they hands that they should hold with them? Or have they eyes that they should see with them? Or have they ears that they should hear with them? Tell them, O Mohammed, “Call up the partners you have set up, and then all of you sit down together and plot against me, and give me no respite. My Protector and Helper is Allah, Who has sent down this Book (Al Quran), and, it is He who protects the righteous people.”



Invoking other beings in creation in the unseen is a clear manifestation of the abomination and ‘the’ most heinous of sins in the deen of Islam, that is, ‘shirk’! Allah Subhanah has singled out this one sin as absolutely ‘unforgivable’ on the Day of Judgment, and has guaranteed the everlasting and unending punishment of the Fire of Hell to all those who die in the state of ‘shirk’, no matter what amount of good deeds they might have done! Such is the gravity of this abomination of ‘shirk’ or invoking other beings in creation in the Sight of Allah Subhanah, the One and Only Lord of the Worlds!



Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 5 Surah Maidah verse 72: Whoever commits ‘shirk’ (invoking anything with Allah), Allah shall forbid for him Paradise, and Hell shall be his abode. And for such wrong doers there will be no one to help.



Allah says in the Quran: Chapter 4 Surah An-Nisa Verse 48: Shirk (associating other deities with Allah) is the only sin that Allah does not forgive, and He forgives, whomsoever He pleases, sins other than this. For whosoever associates any other partner with Allah, does indeed forge a big lie and commits the most heinous sin



Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 39 Surah Zumar verse 65-66: If you commit ‘shirk’ all your works will be rendered vain and you will be among the losers. Therefore, you should worship Allah Alone, and be among His grateful servants.



Question:

Brother I want to ask that how much extent the wasila of imams , noble companions , prophet is correct because many time I heard in a darees that "mera soya hai muqadar aey hussain ab jaga do"?



Answer:

The meaning of the Urdu invocation "mera soya hai muqadar aey hussain ab jaga do" would translate in English to: “O Hussen, please wake up my sleeping destiny now!”; which basically means to ask the righteous and beloved grandson of the Prophet (saws), Imam Hussain ibn Ali Talib (r.a.), to help, invigorate or change or ‘wake-up’ the good destiny of the suppliant!!!



To assume that this righteous and beloved grandson of the Prophet (saws), or anyone in creation, can hear the supplicant or invocation of the person in the unseen (let alone respond to it!!!) is to raise the status of the righteous and obedient slave of Allah Subhanah like Imam Hussain (r.a.) to the rank of the Only One Who is Capable and Able of Hearing and Responding to all in His Creation, The One and Only All-Hearing, All-Seeing, All-Knowing Lord of the Worlds, Allah Subhanah wa Taala! And that is nothing, but a clear and open manifestation of the abomination of ‘shirk’!



Question:

Am I right when I say to my family Allah can do everything, so beg directly to Allah?



Answer:

Indeed, our beloved and dear brother in Islam, it is Allah Subhanah ALONE Who can and does hear, and respond to all our invocations. He Alone is the All-Hearing, All-Seeing, All-Knowing, and knows even the inner-most secrets and desires of our hearts. He Alone is the All-Mighty and All-Powerful, and He Alone has the Ability and Means to answer all our invocations. He Alone is our Creator and Sustainer, and He Alone deserves our invocations, our worship, our absolute obedience, and our total and absolute submission! And this is the precise Message of The Oneness of Allah Subhanah or ‘Tawheed’ that was taught by each and every Messenger of Allah to mankind.



Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 2 Surah Baqarah verse 186: And if My servants ask you, O Prophet, concerning Me, tell them that I am quite near to them. I hear and answer the prayer of the suppliant, when he calls on Me. So let them respond to My call and believe in Me. (Convey this to them), perhaps they may be guided aright!



Question:

Am I correct when I said; your wasila should be your prayers, ibadaats, deeds?



Answer:

Indeed, our beloved brother in Islam, if one takes the term ‘wasila’ to mean a way or approach to get close to Allah Subhanah with one’s ‘taqwa’ or God-consciousness and ones own righteous good deeds; that is a state highly recommended by Allah Subhanah.



Allah Says in the Holy Quran Chapter 5 Surah Maidah verse 35: O ye who believe! Do your duty to Allah, seek the means of approach unto Him (‘wasila’), and strive with might and main in His cause: that ye may prosper.



If one takes the term ‘wasila’ out of its original context to mean glorifying, serving, and invoking other beings in creation in the unseen as a way or approach to get things from Allah Subhanah, that would be a clear and open manifestation of the abomination of ‘shirk’.



Whatever written of Truth and benefit is only due to Allah’s Assistance and Guidance, and whatever of error is of me. Allah Alone Knows Best and He is the Only Source of Strength.



Your Brother in Islam,"
 

Globalpeace

Banned
Safety First!

Asslamo Allaikum Sister,

In my humble and unqualified opinion, if the situation described by you is accurate THEN you and your husband SHOULD distance yourself from this guy.

You should ONLY be friendly with people with this sort of Aqeedah if you are well versed with all the arguments and can defend yourselves and give Dawah.

Safety First in my opinion.
 

Hiba_Islam

Junior Member
Assalamu alaikum,

Jazakum laho khairan for you replies really helpful. The thing that disstressed me is the fact that I've met someone who commits shirk in such an obvious manner:girl3: and he is not aware of it.
It just made my heart sink and I felt so scared of Allah subhanaho wataala for those people who ask someone rather that the Almighty to fulfill their wishes. It is just soo wrong and very sad for our Ummah

Other than that I will keep safe and ask for guidance from Allah(swt)
 

umm hussain

Junior Member
Assalamu alaikum,

The thing that disstressed me is the fact that I've met someone who commits shirk in such an obvious manner:girl3: and he is not aware of it.

Walaikum salam warahmatullah

If he is not aware of it like you said, then please educate him give him evidence from Quran and Sunnah Better educate someone before making takfeer. If they refuse well then that is their problem and I believe ONLY then can you make takfeer.

Allah knows best
 

Hiba_Islam

Junior Member
Walaikum salam warahmatullah

If he is not aware of it like you said, then please educate him give him evidence from Quran and Sunnah Better educate someone before making takfeer. If they refuse well then that is their problem and I believe ONLY then can you make takfeer.

Allah knows best

Salam Sister, I totally agree with you on that point and I have to clarify that I have never said he was a Kafir. Rather I said he is commiting shirk by asking anyone else than the Almighity for help or for "his destiney to come true" :astag:

However, no one and I stress it no one knows what is a person's status with Allah (SWT) except him (azza wajal). And that is why if he evokes the subject again I will do my best to enlighten him through the Quran and Hadeeth Inshalah.

Salam
 
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