A little message for non muslims

Libinette

Umm Zubayr
:bismillah1:

Hijab- liberating or oppressive?


How is it that we (muslim women) desire a thing that sooo many consider to be the ultimate symbol of oppression? How could the hijab ever be liberating?
As a woman in this society, one grows to expect certain things: to be judged by one's appearence, to have fashion trends dictates one's style and ideal body shape, to get both welcome and unwelcom attention from men, among other thinigs.

in our society, women are judged by their apparences in a way that men are not. but the covered woman cannot be judjed on her appearence because nothing personal about her can be seen. she has, in effect, taken her looks out of the equation. she does not feel the need to live up to society's changing expectations of women's bodies. nor is she a victim of the various pressures to conform to the latest looks or project a 'cool' image. for example, if you go for a job they can't judge you on anything except for the piece of paper in front of them (your CV) and what you're saying, you know that their decision will not be based on your looks. THAT is liberation!!!

it is natural for men to want to look at women: we are all beautiful, after all!! and many women find it flattering and fun sometimes, but undoubtedly, there are other times when it is unneccessary and bothersome: stares, wolf whistles, catcalls, comments, phone number missiles, advances:angryblue:

sometimes, i watch a guy walk past a girl, and he'll just turn back and look at her legs or her chest and i just think, alhamdoulilah , i woould hate that to happen to me. It doesn't appeal to me, it's not flattering, i can't understand HOW that can make a woman happy!! To me, it's nicer when a Muslim brother passes by me and looks down, to me, that's more respectful than someone whistling at my legs!:astag:
the covered woman is not available for this type of exchange and thanks God!

the pressure on women and girls to look a certan way is IMMENSE and leads to all sorts of disorders such as anorexia, over-eating, excessive dieting, bulimia...
bacause the covered muslim woman is not judged by her physical appearence , she does not define herself by it. as a result, her sense of self isn't wrapped up in her looks. this makes her free from the angst over psysical appearence and everything that goes with it.

perhaps you wonder wheter wearing the jilbab or the niqab is always liberating, wheter there are never any difficulties in being covered from head to toe, everyday in dark fabric? one of the most frequent comments thatone can get is: 'Aren't you hot in that thing?' and one of the hardest things abt wearing hijab is the physical discomfort- most commonly the heat. i remember reading about a sister in hijab who was asked wheter she wasn't hot wearing it, her response was blunt: ' The heat of the Hell Gire is hotter'!! Blunt, harsh maybe, but totally apt. i only wish i had the courage to give that response whenever somebody asked me that question.
and although the heat of Saudi Arabia or other countries where women cover traditionally is much fiercer than anything England can offer, we still find it a little hot sometimes under those layers of black cloth (certainly due to global warming i guess !!:lol:

another thing that makes wearing the hijab difficult is the reaction that one gets from non-muslims. the hijab, jilbab, and especially niqab can provoke virulent responses from the public. it is as if once you start covering, you cease to have a human identity, i know that the niqab is a shock to the system for most people in non- muslim society. We are used to seeing sooo much personal information about people around us, being able to tell their age, physique and attractiveness...niqaab gives none of that information. what does the non-muslim see when he/she sees us in the streets? A rellic of a bygone age? a lingering symbol of oppression in a liberated world? a religious fanatic? a terrorist or a terrrorist's aide? an outsider, immigrant?

i often feel that, as a covered Muslim woman, i have soo many attitudes to confront, so many images to dispel. i know that people are surprised when they hear that we speak english or french, when we express an opinion, when i talk to their child in a friendly way, that i am educated and that i love to travel that basically i don't fit into the common stereotypes that they hold of women like me and my sisters.

:wasalam:
 

al-fajr

...ism..schism
Staff member
'Aren't you hot in that thing?' :angryblue:

tell me bout it!

"as a result, her sense of self isn't wrapped up in her looks. this makes her free from the angst over psysical appearence and everything that goes with it."

this was such a heart warming read libin, thankyou! in my opinion the non muslim girls actually envy us so much they just will never admit it!
 

Libinette

Umm Zubayr
this was such a heart warming read libin, thankyou! in my opinion the non muslim girls actually envy us so much they just will never admit it!

yes, maybe, i guess they don't have that spiritual peace that we, muslims have, alhamdoulilah :)

peace

:wasalam:
 

Wulf

Junior Member
A'salamu Alaikum.

I know I do not post very much lately but this subject caught my eye. And my post may be wrong in thought.
I must confess to having been like those men in my past, albeit that I am by nature a very shy person when it comes to the opposite gender. (Both my Ex wives proposed to me).

To be honest though, I feel that when a women dresses "Down" she looses the Mystery of womanhood. What should be unknown becomes known in the eyes and minds of men.
Yet, many men end up marrying a woman who is modest, who does not go about deliberately exposing herself.
For me the most attractive are those who are mysterious to me in the way she presents herself, yet known to me for her mind, the words that come out of her mouth, her shyness and apparent modesty. And this from before I embraced Islam.

Sister I both admire you and respect you for your stance and may Allah (swt) continue to guide and protect you.

W'Asalaam
Ibrahim.
 

shaheeda35

strive4Jannah
Mashallah!!

:salam2:
That was such a beautiful post, and I loved reading it. We get the stares, and the looks, subhanallah, but nothing would make me wanna disobey my Lord!! When I start talking to people, they say "Wow you speakd english", lol! yes I do, to their surprise, mashallah! Dont judge a book by its cover. My daughters (12 and 7) love to wear their hijab, and even try to give dawah in school, subhanallah!! People see me as a person, not just an object of mens affection. I am respected for being who I am. One lady told me that she wishes she was more like me, and that made me feel good, Alahmdullilah!! I just love hijab, :ma:
 

Libinette

Umm Zubayr
A'salamu Alaikum.

I know I do not post very much lately but this subject caught my eye. And my post may be wrong in thought.
I must confess to having been like those men in my past, albeit that I am by nature a very shy person when it comes to the opposite gender. (Both my Ex wives proposed to me).

To be honest though, I feel that when a women dresses "Down" she looses the Mystery of womanhood. What should be unknown becomes known in the eyes and minds of men.
Yet, many men end up marrying a woman who is modest, who does not go about deliberately exposing herself.
For me the most attractive are those who are mysterious to me in the way she presents herself, yet known to me for her mind, the words that come out of her mouth, her shyness and apparent modesty. And this from before I embraced Islam.

Sister I both admire you and respect you for your stance and may Allah (swt) continue to guide and protect you.

W'Asalaam
Ibrahim.


:salam2: brother,

yes, i've noticed that you didn't post much lately, i hope that you are doing well inshallah.

Jazakallah Kheir, for your beautiful post mashallah, i just hope that non-muslims will get the message :)

:wasalam:
 

Libinette

Umm Zubayr
:salam2:
That was such a beautiful post, and I loved reading it. We get the stares, and the looks, subhanallah, but nothing would make me wanna disobey my Lord!! When I start talking to people, they say "Wow you speakd english", lol! yes I do, to their surprise, mashallah! Dont judge a book by its cover. My daughters (12 and 7) love to wear their hijab, and even try to give dawah in school, subhanallah!! People see me as a person, not just an object of mens affection. I am respected for being who I am. One lady told me that she wishes she was more like me, and that made me feel good, Alahmdullilah!! I just love hijab, :ma:

mashallah, mashallah, mashllah, well done sister

:hearts:
 

Libinette

Umm Zubayr
:salam2:

that wasn't the point i was trying to make!!!!
the point was that people, especially non-muslims, stop having prejudices abt muslim covering women, that we all fall in the basic stereotypes: terrorists, immigrants, uneducated, forced to wear a covering.......

obviously, i don't except change, just like that!! but inshallah, hopefully one day, covering women will be looked as human being too and not looked down because they're not showing their bodies.

wassalam caleikum wr wb
 

al-fajr

...ism..schism
Staff member
ure right libin, i think the message is important, i think the girls at my college dont actually realise why i wear it they just disagree and put up with it.....
then they ask why im not im going to their stupid prom...ummmmm likely?????

(and then they feel sorry for u! ;))
if they understood they wouldnt ask such a ridiculous question in the first place.

they just dont get the meaning of it...they dont THINK....they need it explained to them like u have done here, and then maybe, just maybe a handful of them may understand and reflect on it.
 

Libinette

Umm Zubayr
assalamu caleikum,

have you ever tried to confront them with their opinions (that would be quite interessting)??
 

al-fajr

...ism..schism
Staff member
id love to and yeah it would be interesting

but its so far out of reach with them if u get what i mean? its like they are so grounded in their....blindness! they feel EVER so sorry for u that they would think it quite rude to bring it up...

well in history class its really obvious cos im the only girl who doesnt talk unnecessarily to the teacher (i.e not say stuff unrelated to the history lesson) but outright confrontation.....i wish

have u ever had to confront anyone?
 

Abu Sarah

Allahu Akbar
Staff member
Assalam Alaykum

my little sister \ libin ...so wise words come from good muslimah Alhamdulillah..Really masha`Allaah..
may Allaah grant u the wisdom n increases ur Knowledge..

subhan Allaah..ur A good example 4 muslim gril..

may Allaah Reward u 4 each letter u writen it..

i leave u in care of Allaah

<wasalam>
 

Libinette

Umm Zubayr
umm, no noot 'confronting' but rather discussing, but at the end of the day it's like you said, they are blocked in their blindness, the thing thaat would maybe work, is like a group of sisters talking to these girls (u know those i'm talking abt dont'you?), then maybe the most clever of them, might think about it, realise the thruth.....

Allah knows best

wassalam
 

ditta

Alhamdu'Lillaah
Staff member
Asalamu Alykum,

Alhamdulilah very true and informative post.

Although i am a brother the post below can relate to what happend to me earlier this week, a sister asked me if i wanted to come to their charity event and that they were going to be modelling and dancing, although it was for charity, i had to reject it because i did not want to see my sister doing such acts. I would have explained that it was wrong, but for some reason i didnt and also she is older than me, so it may have been wrong and she also wears hijab. (She maybe reading this :SMILY259: )

Although other fellow sisters in my class wear hijab, but i just ponder whether they know why they are wearing it. Inshallah i guess Dua is the best thing that they reliase. Inshallah.

Alhamdulilah

Wasalam



ure right libin, i think the message is important, i think the girls at my college dont actually realise why i wear it they just disagree and put up with it.....
then they ask why im not im going to their stupid prom...ummmmm likely?????

(and then they feel sorry for u! ;))
if they understood they wouldnt ask such a ridiculous question in the first place.

they just dont get the meaning of it...they dont THINK....they need it explained to them like u have done here, and then maybe, just maybe a handful of them may understand and reflect on it.
 

al-fajr

...ism..schism
Staff member
But they will not, sister, because of the reasons I mentioned. Whether their motivation is phobia, envy or resentment doesn't matter; it all ends up with them finding all possible means to attack and women covering happens to be one of the easiest ways to do the attacking because men have fooled women into thinking that uncovering is a good thing, so they have women too on their side!

I hope I made my point clearer?

++Ayman


not all of them switch of their minds yknow and like to attack...u should read 'From My Sisters Lips' B. Robert Nai'ma

some actually would respect if only they understood
 

najbc

Junior Member
Assalamu alaykum,

you go sis, and it is true the reaction of non-Muslim or other people face when they find out they you speak English or other language. I use get upset but now I just laugh at them. I don't gat what makes people think a women that covers her hair does not speak English or other language and it is not only non-Muslim, I seem some sister they would come up to and ask do you speak English. I really have non-muslim come up to and have you so nice in the Hijab and they ask question. Wearing hajab is really awesome and something to be proud and show pride in.
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Salam,

Sisters I grew up in the West. I was alive and well when Twiggy wore her miniskirts...I started to wear the hijab last year. It has been a long and slow transition.
Western girls are quite innocent. They are very fashion conscious. They diet, diet, starve to look like today's version of Twiggy. They have been raised to become objects of sexuality. It has never entered thier minds that there are alternatives.
In the city that i reside and its surronding area we may 200 Muslims. You have to drive 60 miles in all directions to look for the other towns of 200 plus Muslims.
What has happened is very good. The men stop and raise their hats. Men open doors for me...women smile at me with respect. They don't talk to me. Funny thing is I only speak English.
The silence has given me respect. Donning the hijab has placed a distance. It is very healthy at this time. It makes a woman serious. When you deal with me you have to be serious. In a society that loves to label women as girls...or pretty lady...it is now yes mam..no mam..may i help you mam..
For many I am the first woman they have seen in a hijab...if we had traffic here it would stop traffic.
Young sisters you have come such a long way in your courage..you give me strenght. May Allah bless your strenght.
 
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