Bad people : Did allah made them this way ?

Islam!!yay

Junior Member
Well actually I have 2 questions . Did allah gave us the character that we all have now or we made it by our own will ?

And People with bad character and bec of this character they suck at life in everything ......Did Allah give them that character ?

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wonnee3

Trying 2 plz ALLAH
Well actually I have 2 questions . Did allah gave us the character that we all have now or we made it by our own will ?

And People with bad character and bec of this character they suck at life in everything ......Did Allah give them that character ?

:salam2:
As Salaamu Alaykum Islamway, do u think that babies r born bad? it is a flaw that the parents or society teaches us that we CHOOSE 2 follow
 

Islam!!yay

Junior Member
So ur saying that we choose who we want to be . But I heard in a lecture that Allah gives us the character . Could that person who said that be mistaken ?

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huda2

Junior Member
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Even though all humans are different for so many ways even as the early age, but I dont know If we can say allah made some people to have a bad character, and others to have good one. I believe the way we raised, our parents, the envirnment we live, who we associate with, and the way we follow our religion has alot to do our behaivor or our character. its nature heredithy and, narture the influence of the enviornment. I hope others can give more details insha allah.

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wonnee3

Trying 2 plz ALLAH
So ur saying that we choose who we want to be . But I heard in a lecture that Allah gives us the character . Could that person who said that be mistaken ?

:salam2:
i'm saying that the choices WE make show r character, ALLAH has given all his grace, but, some CHOOSE the life style of the shayitain
 

OsMaN_93

Here to help
go to my misconception thread i think i have written something about this...
if you need more details :lol:

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wonnee3

Trying 2 plz ALLAH
:salam2:

Even though all humans are different for so many ways even as the early age, but I dont know If we can say allah made some people to have a bad character, and others to have good one. I believe the way we raised, our parents, the envirnment we live, who we associate with, and the way we follow our religion has alot to do our behaivor or our character. its nature heredithy and, narture the influence of the enviornment. I hope others can give more details insha allah.

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ASA, how could it b heredity?
 

A Kashmiri

Junior Member
Well there is no scientific proof of a hereditary or our biological make up can lead to us being bad. Physcological theories take U turns and it is too subjective and very difficult to prove it on scientific basis. Theories have no backings and we shouldnt take them as a base to arrive at a decision. ( Darwin " theory " says we came from Aps which is rubbish and has been proven by biologists as rubbish and wrong. Even Darwin himself knew that it was wrong but he just made this theory to help him in classification )

Brother, Allah has created us and has given us a choice to be either good or bad. We choose what we want to be. However Allah because of Ilmi Gaib - Knowledge of unseen knows how we will turn ( good or bad) before hand. Otherwise it would not be a justice that if someones i thrown in hell when Allah has destined him or created him as Bad. Allah surely is a Just and merciful.

Well i cant comment on what some one has said and you have heard, just try to recall in what context he said that before reaching to conclusions that what he said was a mistake.

Allah knows the best....

Maasallama
 

Abel213

Junior Member
I think it's like this: from our perspective, we are in control. In true perspective, Allah is in control.

(16:61) If Allah were to punish men for their wrong-doing, He would not leave, on the (earth), a single living creature: but He gives them respite for a stated Term: When their Term expires, they would not be able to delay (the punishment) for a single hour, just as they would not be able to anticipate it (for a single hour).

Allah doesn't owe us anything. Even if we were all sent to Hell than we should still be grateful towards Allah. We owe Allah gratitude and worship for giving us the ultimate gift of life.
 

nyerekareem

abdur-rahman
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when we were born we all had a pure fitrah. however outside factors come in to influence us towards one way or the other. some will be doing good deeds and others will be doing bad deeds. it is up to us as to which type of deeds that we will perform. it is true that ALLAH SWT guides and misguides who He wills, however we are not like ALLAH SWT in the fact that we do not know our fate. therefore we have to strive hard to do good deeds and not just continue to do bad deeds accepting them as al-qadar. today a person could be living as a kaffir and tomorrow he can become a pious muslim and a pious muslim can stray to live like the kuffar.

it comes down to this:

ALLAH SWT has given us the haqq of islam. any that refuse the haqq will not be succesful in the hereafter. everyone has the access to learn about the haqq. there isn't one country in this world where there aren't any muslims or have access to learn about islam at their libraries, internet, nearby masjid etc. we know that there will be people in jannah and we also know that there will be people in jahannam. the issue is: which do we want? the way that we live will determine which that we really want.
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Sister Fatma

Islam my Deen
salam alaykum

Brothers and sisters the definition of the word character is the mental and moral qualities distinctive to an individual.

ur mental qualities are created on the environment u grow into. we learn left and right, we are taught to eat in the right hand if we choose to eat on the left does that mean god made us that way? not it does not

like the previous repliers all said we all know right from wrong but we just choose our path.

of course if a child grows in an environment where stealing is ok , then he's obviously going to think that its the right think to do. but as he grows so does he's understanding, the choices remains his. God did not teach him that it was ok to steal but the people he grew up with did.

ALLAH guides whomever he wills and remain misguided whomever he wills.
then again u need to look at our lives ALLAH constantly tries to guide us all.
every-time a sister looks at a hijab that she has at home and chooses to go out without it, it is a guidance she is rejecting. everytime someone tells to pray and u do not pray, its a guidance you have rejected.

like the brother said everyone knows about ISLAM, the fact that it is so proves that ALLAH SWT is guiding us all, but most refuse the guidance. u make the first step ALLAH SWT will then make u run.

from personal experiences, when i started to wear the hijab coz my friend told me to wear it with her, then i wanted to keep it coz of ALLAH SWT. ALLAH SWT then made it so that i could go out without it, it became part of me.

if ALLAH SWT made u bad. then u will not have the opportunity to do anything good. but as u can see we all have that ability, which means that our character depends on what we accept in life and what moral we choose to follow. otherwise a murderer action is justified.
 

wonnee3

Trying 2 plz ALLAH
salam alaykum

Brothers and sisters the definition of the word character is the mental and moral qualities distinctive to an individual.

ur mental qualities are created on the environment u grow into. we learn left and right, we are taught to eat in the right hand if we choose to eat on the left does that mean god made us that way? not it does not

like the previous repliers all said we all know right from wrong but we just choose our path.

of course if a child grows in an environment where stealing is ok , then he's obviously going to think that its the right think to do. but as he grows so does he's understanding, the choices remains his. God did not teach him that it was ok to steal but the people he grew up with did.

ALLAH guides whomever he wills and remain misguided whomever he wills.
then again u need to look at our lives ALLAH constantly tries to guide us all.
every-time a sister looks at a hijab that she has at home and chooses to go out without it, it is a guidance she is rejecting. everytime someone tells to pray and u do not pray, its a guidance you have rejected.

like the brother said everyone knows about ISLAM, the fact that it is so proves that ALLAH SWT is guiding us all, but most refuse the guidance. u make the first step ALLAH SWT will then make u run.

from personal experiences, when i started to wear the hijab coz my friend told me to wear it with her, then i wanted to keep it coz of ALLAH SWT. ALLAH SWT then made it so that i could go out without it, it became part of me.

if ALLAH SWT made u bad. then u will not have the opportunity to do anything good. but as u can see we all have that ability, which means that our character depends on what we accept in life and what moral we choose to follow. otherwise a murderer action is justified.
As Salaamu Alaikum Sister, i beg 2 differ, how can character b a MENTAL state? i agree that it is moral, it takes a sense of mental 2 think something foul is okay, but if is instilled n u that it is normal it take the mental deduction of processing right or wrong out of the equation... i believe
 

Sister Fatma

Islam my Deen
As Salaamu Alaikum Sister, i beg 2 differ, how can character b a MENTAL state? i agree that it is moral, it takes a sense of mental 2 think something foul is okay, but if is n u that it is normal it take the mental deduction of processing right or wrong out of the equation... i believe

Wa alaykum wa salam dear brother
ur right but doesn't it take place in the mind? does that not make it mental?

unless am just being weird then please ignore me.
 
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