Decisions, decisions...

[HappyMuslimah]

Well, because of college I have a choice. Do I:
a) Read namaaz ten minutes before its starting time, and read it very quickly so as not to get late
b) Miss namaaz and kazah it peacefully when I get home?

I have no idea which option is better, and I end up feeling guilty whatever I choose. What do ya'll think is better? I.e . what has more rewards and less punishments? What would you do?

 

[Mabsoot]

assalamu alaykum,

what is the time that you have to get to your class ?

and which prayer is it that you are having trouble with?

- I think there is always plenty of time and many ways to fit in the prayers in our busy schedules. I never have had problems here in UK. You can pray at anytime during the Zohr Prayer time... So, if Zohr starts at say 12:30 you have a few hours to pray it.

Some people feel that the prayer time is the Jama'ah time. So, they will pray it at that exact minute. This is not correct. All the times are to do with the position of the sun.

There are many things you can do, you can pray it in your college. Ask for a room to pray in! Tell the teacher that you will be late because you must pray. Most colleges have a prayer room, if they do not, you can easily ask for an empty classroom for just 5 minutes . Even, you can pray in a quiet corner of a classroom or a library.

Our prayer is obligatory. It comes before everything. It is Allah who gives us happiness and gives us the food and shelter we have, not some college paper or big fancy career.

- I do not think you should do EITHER of the two choices that you suggested above, both are very wrong. You should put effort in speaking to your teachers, if your teachers dont agree, then go to those incharge of the department, if they do not agree, go to the schools principal. If he does not agree, then approach the school's governors. You must try and try to get your Rights!

What would you do?

Certainly, I would go there to college and demand a place where I can pray. I dont take no for an answer and will continue to argue, pressure until I get what I want and can have my rights. Otherwise, I am more than happy to pray anywhere, including the library, the classrooms, or outside. No problem.

When I was around 10, I had arrangement made with my school where I had time to pray and even I had the Friday Afternoon off. - This was done by myself, I pushed them hard and I was the only Muslim in the school. Similarly in secondary school, various letters were written. Also, I used what was in the law, because we should be allowed to have the freedom to practise our Religious rites, days etc.

Anyway, it should not be difficult, just speak up. We are Muslims, we should not let anyone or anything dictate to us how or when we worship Allah.

Here is an attachment explaining the prayer times:

Times of Salah.pdf

Wasalam

 

[Rosheen]

Wow, Mabsoot you have done well! I am hoping that as I grow further into Islam I will ask to work Friday from home so I can go to Masjid....they are quite lenient where i work.

assalamu alaykum,

what is the time that you have to get to your class ?

and which prayer is it that you are having trouble with?

- I think there is always plenty of time and many ways to fit in the prayers in our busy schedules. I never have had problems here in UK. You can pray at anytime during the Zohr Prayer time... So, if Zohr starts at say 12:30 you have a few hours to pray it.

Some people feel that the prayer time is the Jama'ah time. So, they will pray it at that exact minute. This is not correct. All the times are to do with the position of the sun.

There are many things you can do, you can pray it in your college. Ask for a room to pray in! Tell the teacher that you will be late because you must pray. Most colleges have a prayer room, if they do not, you can easily ask for an empty classroom for just 5 minutes . Even, you can pray in a quiet corner of a classroom or a library.

Our prayer is obligatory. It comes before everything. It is Allah who gives us happiness and gives us the food and shelter we have, not some college paper or big fancy career.

- I do not think you should do EITHER of the two choices that you suggested above, both are very wrong. You should put effort in speaking to your teachers, if your teachers dont agree, then go to those incharge of the department, if they do not agree, go to the schools principal. If he does not agree, then approach the school's governors. You must try and try to get your Rights!



Certainly, I would go there to college and demand a place where I can pray. I dont take no for an answer and will continue to argue, pressure until I get what I want and can have my rights. Otherwise, I am more than happy to pray anywhere, including the library, the classrooms, or outside. No problem.

When I was around 10, I had arrangement made with my school where I had time to pray and even I had the Friday Afternoon off. - This was done by myself, I pushed them hard and I was the only Muslim in the school. Similarly in secondary school, various letters were written. Also, I used what was in the law, because we should be allowed to have the freedom to practise our Religious rites, days etc.

Anyway, it should not be difficult, just speak up. We are Muslims, we should not let anyone or anything dictate to us how or when we worship Allah.

Here is an attachment explaining the prayer times:

Times of Salah.pdf

Wasalam

 

[muhsinah]

Masboot gave very good advice. While negotiating with the college though, you could always walk out of class to go pray, can't you? I mean, its college so you are pretty much free to do what you want. Make wudu before class and when its time for prayer, just walk out of class, pray, and return. Won't take you 10 minutes.

 

[HappyMuslimah]

Yep, thats good advice! Thanks. I was just being very illogical, and the answer was right there in front of me. I feel stupid!

 

[bintul islam]

wait a sec

wb brother Mabsoot!
Wow it's not often we see a post by you! You had some very good advice and words of encouragement marshala but I would just like to comment on what you said regarding the prayer times:

assalamu alaykum,
You can pray at anytime during the Zohr Prayer time... So, if Zohr starts at say 12:30 you have a few hours to pray it. Some people feel that the prayer time is the Jama'ah time. So, they will pray it at that exact minute. This is not correct.

According to my understanding, no, you SHOULD pray on the exact time of the salat, in other words, dont say this is thuhr, it starts at 1pm and 'finishes' at 3pm so i have 3 hrs to pray it. No, I think thats wrong, pray it as soon as it is pronounced. Plz don't ask me to quote the reference but I am sure there is a verse in the nobel Quran that disses people who are lazy when it comes to prayers and who dont concentrate while praying.

I hope I am not off topic or misquoted you, and Allah sw knows best.