definition of a muslim

[diplomaticmuslim]

salam,

how do you explain in layman terms, the definition of a muslim? all 1.8 billion muslims are not homogenous (in jurisprudence, governments, religious ways). so what is a muslim?

the shia women population of yemen wear the niqab. are they still non-muslims because they are shia? those who don't agree with ibn abdul wahab's theological interpretations, are they non-muslims?

 

[AbdAllah84]

salam,

how do you explain in layman terms, the definition of a muslim? all 1.8 billion muslims are not homogenous (in jurisprudence, governments, religious ways). so what is a muslim?

the shia women population of yemen wear the niqab. are they still non-muslims because they are shia? those who don't agree with ibn abdul wahab's theological interpretations, are they non-muslims?

:salam2:

But the definition of Muslim remains the same. so why don't you give us the definition?

 

[diplomaticmuslim]

again with the counter-questioning....

 

[Muslim18]

Only Allah can define a muslim because we dont see in peoples hearts what they truly believe i will leave that for Allah to judge. But following Islam is to submit yourself totally to worshiping One God, Allah and to testify Muhammad is the messenger and you must follow what was revealed to him but Allah.

Looking at how people practice a religion doesnt make the religion faulty because of its followers, Islam has been perfected by Allah and He has chose this way of Life for us....

I see that you are from another faith why is your name diplomaticmuslim i am also interested to see your definition of a muslim???

Peace hope i didnt offend

 

[AbdAllah84]

again with the counter-questioning....

:salam2:

Read again. The answer has been given.

Just an advice to you.

Relax for a minute or two and stop starting new threads,

Tell us what you are trying to prove and maybe we can help you?

 

[Yousef83]

look if you ask your questions objective without comments,there are many people here can answer you but you do word games here.
First we are all homogenous,actually its not the correct word but to explain you i need to use,we are homogenous because like our dear Prophet (sav) said we are all from Adam.We are sons of Adam in basic.That is different countries,jurisprudence etc cant change reality.
Also we have 4 sects in Islam,some easy practices different.We all believe same Allah(c.c),same rules and same Prophet(sav),all of the sects are Muslims,we have 1 name

 

[diplomaticmuslim]

this is an unfortunate and ineffective attempt at the original question.

the original question was what is the definition of a muslim.

so far the only credible answer given by a member is that only Allah knows. which itself is unsatisfactory. this is a general answer for all the questions in the world. whilst being true, it is a hinderance to progress. for example what is the cure for smallpox? only Allah knows (true). what is the speed of light? only Allah knows (true), how does the Bernoulli principle help airlift? only Allah knows(true). yes ofcourse Allah knows, but we should strive to know these answers ourselves.

so what is the definition of a muslim?

the rest has been double-talk, counter-questioning and argumentum ad hominem.

 

[Yousef83]

definition of a Muslim,we shadeda Allah (c.c) is the one,we shadeda Prophet (sav) is Allah's real Prophet and we accepted His (sav) sayings.We accept all rules from Allah (c.c) without ask.A short definition is we are only Allah (c.c) slave and servants.

Other you are right We Muslims's worst sickness is that we dont care science which Allah (c.c) and Prophet (sav) suggested us to educate on sciences.We forgot that.This is Ppl's mistake its not about Islam.
You know our Prophet (sav) never had medical eduaction but His (sav) suggestions about medical (almost 1400 years ago) we just understand newly.What a benefit medical suggestions.He (sav) wanted to be sample but we forgot its reality.Thats why all Muslim countries are most weak countries in the world about science

 

[Muslim18]

Well it seems you have taken my answer in the wrong text Of course Allah knows everything and i dont appreciate you degrading this knowledge in any way as you yourself have no knowledge of Islam because all you seem to be doing is asking without searching for yourself.

I said Allah knows because we cant judge Islam, on what we see muslims doing Allah himself has given numerous definition in the Quran i suggest you read to get all your questions answered. Only Allah sees inside every heart and sees their intentions so whats your intention, do you sincerely want to know about islam, if so i believe we would all love to help but only if you help yourself and look for the truth.

Allah the Most Exalted says:

Successful indeed are the believers (1) Who are humble in their prayers, (2) And who shun vain conversation, (3) And who are payers of the poor-due; (4) And who guard their modesty - (5) Save from their wives or the (slaves) that their right hands possess, for then they are not blameworthy, (6) But whoso craveth beyond that, such are transgressors - (7) And who are keepers of their pledge and their covenant, (8) And who pay heed to their prayers. (9) These are the heirs (10) Who will inherit paradise. There they will abide.(11) Surah Muminoon

 

[almanar]

Have a look : http://web.youngmuslims.ca/online_library/books/to_be_a_muslim/index.htm

 

[diplomaticmuslim]

i found an answer earlier in one of Mabsoot's posts. Submitting to Allah is one thing. Being well-educated and socially well-off is another. However, mostly due to personal reasons, muslims try to hinder one of their own whenever one is progressing towards betterment. in order for their own families to progress, muslims have undermined their own societies. sticking to old ways has resulted in technological and economical impedence.

in order to be progressive, should young muslims become secular? after all, secularism has helped non-muslims go forward. otherwise they used to subjugate women through witch-hunts, torture people through the grand inquisition, perform lobotomies, and drink cow urine. only until they became secular, did they achieve scientific progress.

 

[Waseem203]

Salam

Plainly said a muslim is someone who submits to Allah, when you get down with things like goverments and jurisdiction you are stepping outside the general boundray of definition (learning details about being a muslim is something else) so I am not sure what you are trying to acheive by asking something like this.

 

[Mabsoot]

i found an answer earlier in one of Mabsoot's posts. Submitting to Allah is one thing. Being well-educated and socially well-off is another. However, mostly due to personal reasons, muslims try to hinder one of their own whenever one is progressing towards betterment. in order for their own families to progress, muslims have undermined their own societies. sticking to old ways has resulted in technological and economical impedence.

in order to be progressive, should young muslims become secular? after all, secularism has helped non-muslims go forward. otherwise they used to subjugate women through witch-hunts, torture people through the grand inquisition, perform lobotomies, and drink cow urine. only until they became secular, did they achieve scientific progress.

assalamu alaykum wa rahmatulahi wa barakatuh

A Muslim is indeed someone who submits to Allaah alone.

This is the definition that is based upon the Qur'aan and Sunnah. It is what the early generation of Muslims defined a Muslim to be. "Muslim" in Arabic literally means someone who submits to the will of Allaah

By doing so, we are in no need for anything else. It does not mean we close our minds to developing and going forward in terms of societal well-being, wealth, education, awareness and so forth.

Rather, Islaam encourages growth in all directions that have a positive effect upon the world, not just for Muslims, or even humans, but, for the animals, the environment and so forth.

"You are the best of people among all peoples, for you command Al-Maruf and forbid Al-Munkar, and you submit [in belief] to Allah." 3: 110

This is why, it is of uptmost importance for Muslims to really obey Allaah and His Messenger, to learn and get a deeper understanding of Islaam. If we gain our understanding of the Qur'aan and Hadith from the early Muslims, ( as the Prophet Muhammad (salalllahu alayhi wa salam) commanded us to do, then we would be on the middle way, not falling to any extremes. Knowing, the rights and responsibilities we have to all people, whether they are of the opposite gender, our neighbours, non-muslims, even as was said before, to the animals, environment etc

)

Wasalamu alaykum

 

[almanar]

This is why we muslims cannot accept secularisme (taken from other source):


Secularism is compatible with the Western concept of God which maintains that after God had created the world, He left it to look after itself. In this sense, God’s relationship with the world is like that of a watchmaker with a watch: he makes it then leaves it to function without any need for him. This concept is inherited from Greek philosophy, especially that of Aristotle who argued that God neither controls nor knows anything about this world. This is a helpless God as described by Will Durant. There is no wonder that such a God leaves people to look after their own affairs. How can He legislate for them when He is ignorant of their affairs? This concept is totally different from that of Muslims. We Muslims believe that Allah (SWT) is the sole Creator and Sustainer of the Worlds. One Who "…takes account of every single thing) (72:28)

 

[FreedomFighter]

:salam2:

i found this too.

A Muslim is a person that declares (or testify) that there is no other god but Allah (praise to Him) and that Muhammed (may the blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) is His Messenger. The importance of this declaration or testimony is that a person acknowledges the existence of God (Allah), praise to Him, as the Creator of the Universe, and that Muhammed (bpuh) is the Messenger of God. This means that a person accepts the message of Allah revealed to humanity through the Prophet Muhammed (bpuh), as expressed in the word of God (the Holy Qur'an) and the Sunna of the Prophet (his sayings, actions, and what he approved of).
Once a person pronounces the Islamic testimony, then he/she proceeds to observe the Islamic obligations, namely to perform the prayers, to pay the Zakat to fast in Ramadhan, and to make the pilgrimage to the House of God in Makkah, if he/she is able to do so.
It is important to note that these are ways of worshipping Allah, as He wanted and commanded Muslims to do. He promised to reward those who worship Him and punish those who don't do it on purpose.
In analyzing these Islamic ways of worshipping Allah, one discovers that all of them benefit the worshipper and his/her society in this life, before they are rewarded with Paradise in the hereafter.

 

[AbdAllah84]

i found an answer earlier in one of Mabsoot's posts. Submitting to Allah is one thing. Being well-educated and socially well-off is another. However, mostly due to personal reasons, muslims try to hinder one of their own whenever one is progressing towards betterment. in order for their own families to progress, muslims have undermined their own societies. sticking to old ways has resulted in technological and economical impedence.

in order to be progressive, should young muslims become secular? after all, secularism has helped non-muslims go forward. otherwise they used to subjugate women through witch-hunts, torture people through the grand inquisition, perform lobotomies, and drink cow urine. only until they became secular, did they achieve scientific progress.

:salam2:

Throughout your posts you have demonstrated not only your lack of understanding of Islam but that of Muslim History.

West made progress when they went further away from religion, alright but that does not mean it will work for Muslims as well.

Just because a thing or a system works for one group of people it does not necessairly mean it will work for others as well. Just look at your own history when we made advancement in field of science of technology was when we lived by the principals of Islam.

Muslim world has become more secular in last 1-2 century, yet they have haven't moved forward because they left the Quran and Sunnah, thus this humiliation.

By the way there is no contradiction betwen being well off and being educated and submitting to Allah swt. Infact that is what Muslim are ordered to do, to get themselves educated. And through 14 centuries intelligent Muslims have taken the advice of Quran and Sunnah and have made progress.

Howard R. Turner: "Muslim artists and scientists, princes and laborers together made a unique culture that has directly and indirectly influenced societies on every continent."