In the Name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful What follows is a short debate took place between myself and a student of Economics (University of Bologna) follower of Giacinto Auriti, an Italian lawyer, essayist, politician and a fervent Catholic who became famous for his monetary theory on seigniorage and the many public initiatives led against private banking system and the Bank of Italy. This debate clearly shows the complete inconsistency and groundlessness of the arguments of the Catholic and his hatred for the truth. Muslims regard Jesus Christ as a Servant of God, His Messenger, and His Word, which He bestowed on the Chaste Virgin Mary and a Spirit created by Him. He is held in honor in this world and in the hereafter, and will be one of those who are near to God. In addition, Muslims describe Jesus Christ just as God does; they neither exaggerate in his status like the Christians, nor do they demean him like the Jews. Muslim: Auriti says: «We have a mathematical certainly that Christ is truly the Son of God.» We have a mathematical certainly that Christ is the Son of God because Christ is the Son of God! A tautology follows from all propositions: it says nothing. Trinitarian: Well it's clear that you don't read all the words, Auriti do not make any tautology as you declare, maybe you have to read the words better. Muslim: In the Gospel we read that Christ is the Son of God. The Auriti's conclusion is that Christ is the Son of God because Christ is the Son of God. The premise and conclusion are the same. There is no difference between the two at all! The term 'Son of God' means that Christ is not God. God gave each of us reasoning and logic. Your Bible is altered and full of contradictions. A rational mind just can't fail to recognize that. Trinitarian: 1. the term son of God means that Christ is God himself. 2. the Son and the Father are One, nobody knows the Father only the son, the son is from the same nature of the Father, the son is the biblical word wich from the Father or Primary Cause not caused by anything make all things, that is rational because of energy space and time, consciuousness (God) has to make all things from the son, and the son is theperfect imprint of the Father, the Son and the Father are One, cannot be anything else Muslim: Peace be upon on who follows the right path. You have no knowledge [of Him], nor had your forefathers. Exalted is God and high above what you associate [with Him]. Trinitarian: Look better you aren't right in what you try to say. I say this: God is human, God is consciousness (I am who I am), not energy, not matter, not space, not time, but consciousness. So if a man live the consciousness of God, how can you possibly say that's not possible? and this man was God himself because he live the consciousness of God, he is the Christ because he lived entirely what you are also, so God became human in Jesus Christ, and if you denied, I'm sorry you are not in the truth Muslim: You do not have any evidence; Christ never claimed to be God! You follow nothing but conjecture, and conjecture is of no use against the truth. Exalted is God, above anything that men may devise by way of definition! Trinitarian: Let be clear, I have the evidence of the human being, and the gospel, I am right certainly with the truth and evidence, I'm right. If you don't understand what I I wrote you don't know God just for nothing, because God and human being are not separate. Human being has spirit, soul and consciousness and body, there is a reason for all that. Exalted is God in Christ, in the living human is the glory of God Muslim: Your claim that the Divine Entity is the Word of God, which is united with the human entity, is totally false for the following reasons: 1) This Word is God or an attribute of His Divine Entity. 2) Or that this Word is not His Divine Entity or one of His Attributes. 3) Or that it is the Attribute and the Entity together. If it is not God or one of His Attributes, it must be a created thing separate that is from Him. And if the Word is the Divine Entity or an Attribute of God, then it is the Lord of the Universe. It represents the Father in Christian theology. If that word is an attribute of God, then the attribute of God in itself is not the Creating Lord. In addition to that, an attribute of God is dependent on His Entity and cannot be separated from Him, incarnated with Him, or united to another entity.You do not have any textual or rational evidence. You do not have any reliable authentic transmission from Christ concerning the exact wordings of the Bible. Indeed, you believe in a religion innovated by your religious leaders. You have taken your scholars and monks, as well as the Christ, the son of Mary, for your lords beside God. And you were not commanded except to worship one God, besides whom none has the right to be worshiped. Exalted is God and high above what you associate [with Him]. "Jesus felt pure and calmly thought Only the One God; Who made himself to be a god Offends his holy will. And thus the right(ness) has to shine What Muhammad also achieved; Only by the term of the One He mastered the whole world" (West-östlicher Divan) O Christ-worshipers! We want an answer!