Difference between patience and procrastination

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

I pray this will lead to a good and beneficial discussion between the difference in patience and procrastination. As usual I need Islamic references.

I am told by most that I am patient. I think to myself I am also lazy at times. Sometimes the stress of situations makes me lay back and wait. I get that awful feeling of not wanting to take action because I see the futility in it.

We are encouraged to be patience. We are strongly told not to put anything off.

Insha'Allah, this will lead to a better understanding of how to implement our faith to be pleasing to Allah subhana talla.
 

abubaseer

tanzil.info
Staff member
:salam2: Sister,

I was looking for the dua about lazniness, procratination sometime back. I had completely forgotten about it.

There is Sunnah dua to be recited morning and evening.


"أَصْبَحْنَا وَأَصْبَحَ الْمُلْكُ للهِ وَالْحَمْدُ للهِ، لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا اللهُ وَحَدْهُ لَا شَرِيكَ لَهُ، لَهُ الْمُلْكُ وَلَهُ الْحَمْدُ وَهُوَ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ، ربِّ أَسْأَلُكَ خَيْرَ مَا فِي هَذَا الْيَومِ وَخَيْرَ مَا بَعْدَهُ، وَأَعُوذُ بِكَ مِنْ شَرِّ مَا فِي هَذَا الْيَومِ وَشَرِّ مَا بَعْدَهُ، رَبِّ أَعُوذُ بِكَ مِنَ الْكَسَلِ، وَسُوءِ الكِبَرِ، رَبِّ أَعُوذُ بِكَ مِنْ عَذَابٍ فِي النَّارِ وَعَذَابٍ فِي الْقَبْرِ".

77. 'Asbahnaa wa 'asbahal-mulku lillaahi walhamdu lillaahi, laa 'ilaaha 'illallaahu wahdahu laa shareeka lahu, lahul-mulku wa lahul-hamdu wa Huwa 'alaa kulli shay'in Qadeer. Rabbi 'as'aluka khayra maa fee haathal-yawmi wa khayra maa ba'dahu wa 'a'oothu bika min sharri maa fee haathal-yawmi wa sharri maa ba'dahu, Rabbi 'a'oothu bika minal-kasali, wa soo'il-kibari, Rabbi 'a'oothu bika min 'athaabin fin-naari wa 'athaabin fil-qabri.

We have entered a new day 1 and with it all dominion is Allah's. Praise is to Allah. None has the right to be worshipped but Allah alone, Who has no partner. To Allah belongs the dominion, and to Him is the praise and He is Able to do all things. My Lord, I ask You for the goodness of this day and of the days that come after it, and I seek refuge in You from the evil of this day and of the days that come after it. 2 My Lord, I seek refuge in You from laziness and helpless old age. My Lord, I seek refuge in You from the punishment of Hell-fire , and from the punishment of the grave. 3

Reference:
1 When you say this in the evening you should say 'Amsaynaa wa'amsal-mulku lillaah: "We have ended another day and with it all dominion is Allah's.
2When you say this in the evening you should say: Rabbi 'as'aluka khayra maa fee haathihil-laylati, wa khayra maa ba'dahaa, wa 'a'oothu bika min sharri maa fee haathihil-laylati wa sharri maa ba'dahaa: "I ask You for the good things of this night and of the nights that come after it and I seek refuge in You from the evil of this night and of the nights that come after it."
3Muslim 4/2088.
 

saifkhan

abd-Allah
Assalamu alaikum Aapa

for me patience is a gift from Allah SWT.
I'd like to address me as a revert...though I'm a born muslim....so whatever....
though I used to prayer regularly and do things Islamic...except music and movies...and other..stuffs...
anyways...coming to Islam deeply...Alhamdulillah...summa Alhamdulillah....I've nht learn some attributes...but it came automatically...and surely All praise due to Allah SWT.

let me give you an example: what thing can make ppl happy?...how can a man be happy?.....only if he can limit his desires...to be happy with what Allah SWT has blessed...but some one may ask...how ..this is so tough...its not that easy...man is by nature...."pepsi...yeh dil mange more....lolz"...not only pepsi but everything.....
but from my practical experience....Allah SWT puts a satisfaction in the heart of Mu'mins....Alhamdulillah......that why Ibn Tainiyah may ALlah be pleased with him said in his book: if the disbeleiver could have known that, what is the thing that we mu'mins are blessed with in our heart by Allah SWT...they would have declare/start war against us...just to take that thing.,......indeed we r blessed with that..and again Alla praise due to only Allah SWT.

so from my point of view: Alhamdulillah...we dont have to practise patience/sabr/having smile on face everytime/behaving good with...ppl...automatically it improves when we nourish our heart with Islam.....
And Allah SWt knows the best

Jazakallahu Khair for this topic...
sorry for giving so big bro type example/advise/opinion....whatever....you're still ma big sis....I was just sharing my feelings and experience....

walaikum assalam...
PS: how are your kids??////I thing they are having a hard time....uff...I wonder how they pass their time.....may ALlah bless them...lolz....aapa....I've just catched my ears and doing my punishment....he he

barakallahu feekum
walaikum salam
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

I was making small talk with the carsalesman. ( My car was declared dead by the adjusters..cars don't like hugging trees ). In the converstation he asked me if I knew the country song..God grant me heaven but not today.
This had me thinking. Is that procrastination or what.

I was a little confused about the patience comes after you have worked..I can understand that in a sense when you plant you wait...I am searching for the exact point where one can label this is patience and this is procrastination. I am seraching for a sublime difference. In the morning when you arise and have to make decisions..the quintessential to be or not to be..I pray this is not a female thing.

Brother..thank you for asking about my sons. No. I am not bad mom. They have been with one grandmother and are going to spend a few weeks with my mother. They are not missing me..and I am going crazy missing my babies. One is 6'3" and the other is 5' 5". And yes,I call the taller one baby beast.
 

saifkhan

abd-Allah
Salam alaikum.....

one is for tha sake of Allah and one is for the sake of saitan....i think you've got, what is for sake of what......
and Allah knows the best....

Wassalam...
may Allah SWT shower boundless blessings,rahmah,barakah to your family...

fee amannillah
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,


I have been thinking all day about this. I am attempting to use simple language to convey my cluttered thoughts. If the point of no return starts with indecision..the consequence is procrastination...which leads to a heaviness of the soul..some may even call this a depression...the stressors of indecision ...thereby lead to inactivity and almost a disassociation with the self (rou )...in a profound sense this is almost shirk..

The point thus is simply saying Insha'Allah. This act..and it is an act is the difference between joy and depression.

The engima is the simplicity of it all...I pray this makes sense to someone.
 

rayray

Junior Member
Assalaam walaikum,


I have been thinking all day about this. I am attempting to use simple language to convey my cluttered thoughts. If the point of no return starts with indecision..the consequence is procrastination...which leads to a heaviness of the soul..some may even call this a depression...the stressors of indecision ...thereby lead to inactivity and almost a disassociation with the self (rou )...in a profound sense this is almost shirk..

The point thus is simply saying Insha'Allah. This act..and it is an act is the difference between joy and depression.

The engima is the simplicity of it all...I pray this makes sense to someone.

I don't know much. But what you said about indecision leading to procrastination, heaviness of the soul and experiencing slight depression, ...self dissociation made sense to me. I think I've experienced that.

"...the point of no return starts with indecision..the consequence is procrastination...which leads to a heaviness of the soul..some may even call this a depression...the stressors of indecision ...thereby lead to inactivity and almost a disassociation with the self "

I was a confused teenager. I had no idea of life beyond high school. I couldn't choose which major to take during college. That initial indecision led to procrastination.... It took me a long time to decide which major to take. And even after I made the decision, I wasn't happy because I constantly bothered myself with thoughts of "what if". I hoped for some great omen.

The period of waiting caused some inactivity.. which made me fail....


I didn't answer your question. But I hope it comforted you that it made sense to someone :)
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,


Yes, it did. I am not alone in this world.

I am still thinking and after two to three cups of coffee I will be able to compose my thoughts.
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

Fear. Procrastination is a fear. A fear of the unknown and all the possibilities of what can go wrong. It is a defeatist attitude from the get go.

There is also the Fear of Allah. The dimensions of this Fear are very different. I am trying to unite this Fear of Allah to patience. I am looking for the properties of this Fear.
 

saifkhan

abd-Allah
Salam alaikumm

the more the coffee will be consumed by Aapa...the more thoughts will come up......he he and its getting nerdy nerdy...

but yet I was thinking also.....not routinewise like you..like...have a coffe and theink..then have another and then think..then and then.......you know I'm just joking sister....

Jazakallahu Khair
wassalam
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

Brother...I hate to break the news to you but I am kindasorta nerdy. I used to read a book a day when I graduated from college. My poor mind is cluttered with stuff...and now it is time for more coffee.

In realtion to the topic...I am attempting to gain an understanding of the balance in life between action and active participation in the process of life and apprehension and the process of allowing evolution to take its course. And trying to relate this to the Fear and Love of Allah.
 

saifkhan

abd-Allah
Salam alaikum warahmatullah

Thats great alhamdulillah...that you relate Love and Fear of Allah SWT.
Actuallay our eeman is balanced by two wings: and the two wings are Love and Fear. without one of them you'll noit be able to either balance of fly towards the wide open divine journey........Islam..

and one thing...sister.....I bet you...you don take coffe more than me......you know why?...coz for over dose of coffee, continuous having coffee 8-12 mug a day....I had even visited to hospital for stroke...by gas form.....he he.....doctor has banned coffee for me....and gues what....the coffee used to be black one....without sugar....he he.....
but now I go with tea only....

PS: having coffee more than 5cups is bad for health.....I dont know but doctors say so.....but I still love black coffee even the normal one....also...when I visit Barista Lavazza....he he....dont tell my mommy....

Wassalam...
love to your tall kids..
barakallahu feekum

your brother in islam
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Asslaam walaikum,

I drink three to four cups during the school year. As I am a specialist and go from class to class when the regular teacher is boring I have been known to fall asleep. I fight with the students to get on the computer and I read all day or log on to TTI. The students are very kind and give me coffee refills all day long. My sons are fine thank you. They are having a blast without me' as they should at grandmothers house. I am just very short.

I am still waiting for another nerdy type to respond to my questions. Insha'Allah.
 

hussain.mahammed

a lonely traveller
Bismillahee Rahmaneer Raheem

As salam alaikum wa Rahamtullahee Wa Barakatooh

I just remembered the sayings of Umar (radiallahu anhu). During his leadership he said,"If I sleep by night, how am I going to worship Allah Subhanahu wa Taala, and if I sleep by the day, who will take care of the conditions and affairs of Muslims?"

I dont know if those are the exact translation of his words, but what I want us to think is that those were the leaders who cared about the affairs of the Muslims and also his worship to Allah Subhanahu wa Taala. We need to think and contemplate over those words. They are really deep and heavy on scale.

I am not sure if you've heard about the Almaghrib Institute, but those living in the west might have heard. I attended a course of this Institute conducted by Ahsan Hanif from UK and he told a very interesting story. He said that once while performing Hajj, he met Dr. Zakir Naik. During the conversation, Ahsan Hanif asked how many hours did he sleep in a day? Do you know what was the reply of Dr. Zakir Naik - "Only 2 hours".

I don't think, I have to say anything more than that.

Walaykum as salam.
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

Yes, these examples are perfect. It is the heart of a Muslim. And the Owner of the Muslim Heart is Allah subhana talla.

Jazaak Allahu Kharin.
 

saifkhan

abd-Allah
Salam alaikum

when I was in my Bachelors{just 4yrs back...not that old I'...that youre thinking.}
I used to take coffee a lot....to do my studies...especially when exams were at the nose end...he he....

but at my last year: I was changed....when I deeply entered Islaam...Alhamdulillah.....
though I coulndt remember of sleeping more than 4-5hrs from my college time....anyways....and I havnt take coffee"regularly" since my 2nd year of bachelors...

and now my time passes more in TTI and youtube for sheikhs fatwa and lectures...
even if I sleep at 2/3am...alhamdulillah and summa alhamdulillah I wake up at 4.20at fajr.All praise due to Allah SWT.

now roughly I sleep 4-5hours....basically im in medicine now...high powered dose ....so I take pills after the fajr so that I dont miss the fajr and I cant keep my body in bed more than 10am....

anyways.....Islam is a divine journey and Allah SWT guides,whom He wants....
when youre in Islam,nothing you got to practise everythings poured into your life and soul...and only the muslims can feel and explain....no blasohamy grasps them...inshaa'Allah and ALlah SWT knows the best

Jazakallahu Khair
wassalam
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

Yes, I agree you are so very young and full of energy. ( I had my coffee intake for the day..and am going to go sign the employment contract...and as a demonstration of patience...I am going to walk there...I live in wild and wonderful West Virginia..we do not have public transportation..we have one bus that services two towns..and when the bus driver takes lunch break there is no bus service...we have the oldest population in the United States..we have older people driving 25 miles an hour on the highway...now you can see why the police get excited..I drive 9 miles an hour past the posted speed limit ( it's legal..they do not ticket you for under 10) and the police think they have a police chase.

Islam is The Divine Journey. As such it makes sense. No argument can refute the Will of Allah.
 

saifkhan

abd-Allah
Salam Alaikum Aapa..

the last reply wasnt to you praticularly....
I hope you would not take it personally or otherwise.....Aapu...

make some dua that your lill brother live with full energy for srving mankind and Islaam Inshaa'Allah....all the way and always......you know that I'm going with some difficulties with my back-pain...now I'm taking physiotherapy and chiro-therapy....make dua so that these work and I get well soon....


Walaikum assalam warahmatullah

PS: Aapu is used to address elder sister in Bangladesh...and I use to call my elder sister also...wassalam
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

Insha'Allah, the dua will be constant.

I responded to a post on quotes one of my favorite from West Virginia: what does not kill you makes you stronger..I love that. Brother, we have a weed here. It is a dandelion. It has medicinal value as well as good eats. The flower can be fried, the leaves can be boiled for greens such as spinach..the leaves are also used for tea. Americans hate the flower. They use weed killer. I love dandelions. If I were a flower..I would be a dandelion. You can walk on them, you can cut them down, you can spit on them, and they come back stronger and multiply. Just like Muslims and they are good for you.
 
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