For those of you who support Zionism and Israel and a Two State Solution for Israel/Palestine.

[truthseeker63]

For those of you who support Zionism and Israel and a Two State Solution for Israel/Palestine if a people or even one person broke into your home house and or land farm or property and raped or killed you and your family or were trying to or they drove you out of your own house and let you back in and said we both can share this house you take one half I take the other half then we can share the kitchen would you accept this ? This seems immoral to me. The Israelis drove into refugee camps the Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims why is this a good thing ? I don't want the pre 1967 borders I want pre 1947 borders for Palestine. I call on the Americans to stop voting for American Politicians who are Puppets of Israel. The Israelis don't seem to want a two state solution they just pay lip service to the idea they are liars. The Israelis/Zionists/Jews have for years abd still are occupying East Jerusalem the West Bank and the Gaza Strip the Israelis have occupied the Golden Heights Mount Sinai and Lebanon among other lands. Israel seeks a Greater Israel an Empire that the Bible talks about. It my view the State of Israel has no moral right to exist does anyone agree or disagree thank you ? In my view you can't be both pro Israel and pro Palestine at the sametime it is one or the other you can not be both.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-state_solution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_refugee_camps

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_refugee


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...Greater_Israel


God promised the descendants of the prophet Abraham the 'Promised Land', why are Palestinians defying the Almighty's prophecy?

Finally, the exact borders of the "Promised Land" have not been geographically defined. The Biblical "Promise", which "God had granted to Abraham's descendants", covered the areas between the Nile River in Egypt and the Euphrates River in Iraq,
Does that imply that Israel's future borders eventually will span the borders of Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, and Southern Turkey?

http://www.palestineremembered.com/A.../Story418.html

What is the meaning of your call for Muslims to take arms against America in particular, and what is the message that you wish to send to the West in general?
The call to wage war against America was made because America has spear-headed the crusade against the Islamic nation, sending tens of thousands of its troops to the land of the two Holy Mosques over and above its meddling in its affairs and its politics, and its support of the oppressive, corrupt and tyrannical regime that is in control. These are the reasons behind the singling out of America as a target. And not exempt of responsibility are those Western regimes whose presence in the region offers support to the American troops there. We know at least one reason behind the symbolic participation of the Western forces and that is to support the Jewish and Zionist plans for expansion of what is called the Great Israel. Surely, their presence is not out of concern over their interests in the region. ... Their presence has no meaning save one and that is to offer support to the Jews in Palestine who are in need of their Christian brothers to achieve full control over the Arab Peninsula which they intend to make an important part of the so called Greater Israel. ...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...interview.html

 

[Precious Star]

Truthseeker, I am not pro Israel. I think however that the reason a two state solution is attractive is simply because it may offer an end to the tyranny that is gaza and the west bank. As you know, Arab host states that house Palestinians in refugee camps have not allowed those refugees to integrate. Many educated palestinians were able to immigrate to north America and Europe, but for the scores of families that remain displaced , a Palestinian state will give them a home to return to.

Israel isn't going to go away. It ain't going to vanish. We can insist on pre1947 borders but while we are doing that, the worlds largest prison called gaza will languish, refugee camps in Lebanon, Jordan, etc, displaced Palestinians throughout the gulf and rest of the world will remain stateless.

That is the reality. I met a lady here in north America recently. She was Palestinian but raised in Iraq, then moved to bosnia, and now lives here. She said she finally has a place she can call home, attain citizenship, and not feel like an outsider. It is bittersweet, really, because our Muslim countries do not want their Palestinian bretherin in their midst. Islam has no class or ethnic divisions, yet Muslim host countries treat the Palestinians like second class citizens, especially in Lebanon and jordan.

I know it sounds like a cop out but their are so many young children, mothers, elderly, poor, who would benefit from a stable state with its own infrastructure like health care, free schools, the chance to build their own economy, the freedom to practice ther religion, the opportunity to enter and leave as they please....rather than live like cattle in a fenced in yard.

 

[a_stranger]

Truthseeker, I am not pro Israel. I think however that the reason a two state solution is attractive is simply because it may offer an end to the tyranny that is gaza and the west bank. As you know, Arab host states that house Palestinians in refugee camps have not allowed those refugees to integrate. Many educated palestinians were able to immigrate to north America and Europe, but for the scores of families that remain displaced , a Palestinian state will give them a home to return to.

Israel isn't going to go away. It ain't going to vanish. We can insist on pre1947 borders but while we are doing that, the worlds largest prison called gaza will languish, refugee camps in Lebanon, Jordan, etc, displaced Palestinians throughout the gulf and rest of the world will remain stateless.

That is the reality. I met a lady here in north America recently. She was Palestinian but raised in Iraq, then moved to bosnia, and now lives here. She said she finally has a place she can call home, attain citizenship, and not feel like an outsider. It is bittersweet, really, because our Muslim countries do not want their Palestinian bretherin in their midst. Islam has no class or ethnic divisions, yet Muslim host countries treat the Palestinians like second class citizens, especially in Lebanon and jordan.

I know it sounds like a cop out but their are so many young children, mothers, elderly, poor, who would benefit from a stable state with its own infrastructure like health care, free schools, the chance to build their own economy, the freedom to practice ther religion, the opportunity to enter and leave as they please....rather than live like cattle in a fenced in yard.

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Dear sister: now things are changing in muslem Arabic countries for better inshaAllah ...oppressed are rising , oppressors are falling ..........no injustice can continue.......Palastine will return .....oppression will be ended .....we muslems should keep this goal in our hearts .I know you are right that Arabs didn't support their brothers as should be ....but that was when the spirit of Islam died in hearts now it is awakening again by the will of Allah.

With regards