Hard time understanding this Hadith

Al Qassimi

Junior Member
as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) described them in the hadeeth narrated by Muslim:

“There are two types of the people of Hell whom I have not seen: men with whips like the tails of cattle with which they strike the people, and women who are clothed but naked, walking with an enticing gait, with something like the humps of camels on their heads. They will not enter Paradise nor even smell its fragrance, and its fragrance can be smelled from such and such a distance.”


Its the MEN part that I am confused about, could someone explain it to me or even better a picture of it.
 

samiha

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Staff member
:salam2:

Perhaps the translation is a bit off ... I have a similar one without the "man"

Another type of person who will enter Hell is the corrupt woman who makes a display of herself and tempts men - perhaps this phenomenon has never been quite so widespread as it is now - and never obeys Allah (swt). Abu
Hurayrah (ra) reported that the Prophet (saw) said: “There are two types of people of Hell that I have never seen; people with whips like the tails of cattle, with which they strike the people, and women who are dressed but appear naked, walking with an enticing gait, with their heads looking like the humps of camels, leaning to one side. They will never enter Paradise, nor even smell its fragrance, although its fragrance can be discerned from such and such a distance”. (Muslim, al-Bayhaqi, and Ahmad - Silsilat al-Ahadith as-Saheehah, 3/316, no. 1326)

Concerning those who have whips like the tails of cattle, al-Qurtubee said, “This type of whip can be seen among us in Morocco until now.” Commenting on al-Qurtubee’s remark, Siddeeq Hasan Khan said, “Indeed it can be seen in every time and place, and it is increasing day by day among the leaders. We seek refuge in Allah (swt) from all that Allah (swt) despises”. (Yaqadhat uli al-I’tibaar p.113)

And I say: we still see such people in many places, striking the people. May they and their like perish.
 

amjaddamen

brother
miracle comes true

:salam2:
daer brother
do you know that this hadeeth is one of our prophet (pbuh) miracles .
if you follow me , why would he Endangers his message by telling things
if he is not sure of . for your knowledge muslim women never seen uncovered
until the year 1921 when an egyption liberate women take off her head cover
in public .

for the men with whips , this is about unjust rulers who used to grap awhip
in thier hands.
i hope i did fine

:astag:
 

Al Qassimi

Junior Member
I know Prophet Muhammad(Blessing and peace be upon him) is telling the truth. I do understand the women part easily, but, I was confused about the mens part.

I always have to have some understood, and if someone else could post in details about the MANS part of the hadith, that would help.

I am sorry if I am anooying you.
 

amjaddamen

brother
I know Prophet Muhammad(Blessing and peace be upon him) is telling the truth. I do understand the women part easily, but, I was confused about the mens part.

I always have to have some understood, and if someone else could post in details about the MANS part of the hadith, that would help.

I am sorry if I am anooying you.

هذا حديث صحيح ، رواه مسلم في صحيحه عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم أنه قال : ( صنفان من أهل النار لم أرهما رجال بأيديهم سياط كأذناب البقر يضربون بها الناس ونساء كاسيات عاريات مائلات مميلات رؤوسهن كأسنمة البخت المائلة لا يدخلن الجنة ولا يجدن ريحها ) وهذا وعيد عظيم يجب الحذر مما دل عليه .
فالرجال الذين في أيديهم سياط كأذناب البقر هم من يتولى ضرب الناس بغير حق من شرط أو من غيرهم ، سواء كان ذلك بأمر الدولة أو بغير أمر الدولة . فالدولة إنما تطاع في المعروف ، قال صلى الله عليه وسلم : ( إنما الطاعة في المعروف ) وقال عليه الصلاة والسلام : ( لا طاعة لمخلوق في معصية الخالق )

i translate : the men who have the whips are men who beat people for right reason or not, by the order of the governor or by the order of others ,
governer should be obeyed only in matters go with sharee'h.

ibin bazz
 

Almeftah

Junior Member
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

The part regarding men talks about men with hair cuts simillar to those of women's, specially the one called "Horse tail". those are the ones of wich are worned in hadith.
 

Happy 2BA Muslim

Islamophilic
:salam2:

The Prophet (peace be upon him) describes in this hadîth two groups of people that will be among the inhabitants of Hell. We benefit from this, since it serves as a warning for us not to be like those people.

When the Prophet (peace be upon him) says – “There are two categories of the inhabitants of Hell whom I have not encountered.” – he means that he has never encountered these two groups of people in the world, though he has knowledge by way of revelation from Allah that those people will be among the denizens of Hell.

With respect to the people who carry whips like the tails of cows and beat the people, al-Nawawî in his famous commentary on Sahih Muslim, says the description matches the youths employed in his day as police officers by the chief of police.

:salam2:
 

massi

Junior Member
:salam2:
this topic will solve the problem :lol: :lol: :lol:
Meaning of maa’ilaat mumeelaat

Question:
What is the meaning of the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in the hadeeth, “maa’ilaat mumeelaat”?.

Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.

This is a saheeh hadeeth which was narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) who said: “There are two types of the people of Hell whom I have not seen: men in whose hands are whips like the tails of cattle, with which they beat the people, and women who are clothed yet naked, maa’ilaat mumeelaat, with their heads like the humps of camels, tilted to one side. They will not enter Paradise nor even smell its fragrance.” This is a stern warning to beware of the things referred to.

The men in whose hands are whips like the tails of cattle are those who beat the people unjustly, like police and others, whether that is done by order of the state or otherwise. The state is only to be obeyed with regard to matters that are right and proper. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Obedience is only with regard to what is right and proper.” And he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There is no obedience to any created being if it involves disobedience towards the Creator.”

With regard to the phrase “women who are clothed yet naked, maa’ilaat mumeelaat”, the scholars interpreted this as follows:

“kaasiyat ‘aariyaat (translated above as “clothed yet naked” may have another meaning, which is that they are enjoying the blessings of Allaah, but they do not give thanks for them and they do not obey the commands of Allaah or heed His prohibitions, even though Allaah has bestowed upon them wealth and other blessings.

The hadeeth is also explained in a different manner, which is that they wear clothes that do not cover them, because they are too thin or too short, so they do not serve the purpose of clothes, hence they are described as naked, and because the clothes they wear do not cover their ‘awrah.

Maa’ilaat (literally “deviant”) means they turn away from chastity and righteousness, i.e., they commit sins and evil deeds like those who do immoral actions, or they fall short in doing the obligatory duties, prayer etc.

Mumeelaat means they turn others away, i.e., they call people to evil and corruption, so by their words and actions they lead others into immorality and sin, and they commit immoral actions because of their lack of faith or the weakness of their faith. The point of this saheeh hadeeth is to warn against oppression and all kinds of corruption from men and women.

With regard to the phrase, “their heads are like the heads of camels, tilted to one side,” some of the scholars said that this means they make their heads look big because of the hairstyles they adopt and so on, so that it looks like the hump of a bakht camel. The bakht is a type of camel that has two humps between which there is a dip, so that one hump leans one way and the other leans the other way. When these woman make their heads look big in this way, they look like these humps.

With regard to the phrase, “They will not enter Paradise nor even smell its fragrance,” this is a stern warning; it does not necessarily mean that they are kaafirs or that they will abide in Hell forever, like other sinners who die as Muslims; rather what is meant is that they and other sinners are threatened with Hell for their sins, but they are subject to the will of Allaah. If He wills He will forgive them and if He will He will punish them. This is like the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, Allaah forgives not that partners should be set up with Him (in worship), but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He wills”

[al-Nisa’ 4:48]

If a sinner (who is Muslim) enters Hell, he will not abide therein forever like the kuffaar, and those who will abide therein like murderers, adulterers and suicides will not abide therein forever like the kuffaar; rather it is an eternity which will have an end according to Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah – in contrast to the Khawaarij and Mu’tazilah and the innovators who follow their path, because the saheeh mutawaatir ahaadeeth narrated from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) indicate that he will intercede for the sinners among his ummah and that Allaah will accept that intercession from him (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) a number of times; each time He will specify a number who are to be brought forth from Hell. Similarly the rest of the Messengers, the believers and the angels will all intercede by Allaah’s leave, and He will accept their intercession for whomsoever He will among the believers in Tawheed who have entered Hell because of their sins but are Muslims. Then there will remain in Hell those sinners who are not included in the intercession of the intercessors, but Allaah will bring them forth by His Mercy and Kindness, and there will be none left in Hell but the kuffaar who will abide therein forever and ever. Allaah says concerning the kuffaar (interpretation of the meaning):

“whenever it abates, We shall increase for them the fierceness of the Fire”

[al-Isra’ 17:97]

“So taste you (the results of your evil actions). No increase shall We give you, except in torment”

[al-Naba’ 78:30]

And He says concerning the kuffaar who worshipped idols (interpretation of the meaning):

“Thus Allaah will show them their deeds as regrets for them. And they will never get out of the Fire”

[al-Baqarah 2:167]

And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, those who disbelieve, if they had all that is in the earth, and as much again therewith to ransom themselves thereby from the torment on the Day of Resurrection, it would never be accepted of them, and theirs would be a painful torment.

They will long to get out of the Fire, but never will they get out therefrom; and theirs will be a lasting torment”

[al-Maa'idah 5:36-37]

We ask Allaah to keep us safe and sound from being like them.


Majmoo’ Fataawa wa Maqaalaat Mutanawwi’ah li’l-Shaykh Ibn Baaz, 6/355


http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=14627&ln=eng
 

Zafran

Muslim Brother
What about the slave trade in the 1800s - where balck africans used to get whipped on the ships when they were being transported (tringular trade).
 

cedric098

Junior Member
"women who are clothed yet naked, maa’ilaat mumeelaat, with their heads like the humps of camels"

I think this refers to the women who have clothes but lack chastity.. Even in Islamic countries lots of muslim women dress from top to toe but their clothes are so tight you can see every curve of their body, there are problems about their manners as well, they are soo obsessed with beauty or charm that they can do anything to be attractive or even seductive.. In Turkey for example there are sooo many girls who use hijab but act worse than modern western girls! They use extremely tight clothes like jeans and tshirts under their hijab and they are open to almost everything about prematrimonial love affairs and stuff!! Not many seem to be aware that hijab is not just a piece of cloth to cover the head but it's also a symbol of chastity and modesty. May Allah protect from the tricks of shaatan!
 

Inquirer

Junior Member
Assalamu alaikum,

The men in whose hands are whips like the tails of cattle are those who beat the people unjustly, like police and others, whether that is done by order of the state or otherwise

I also think that this is a possible manifestation of this prophecy, the reference to cattle also brings to mind electric prods, and tasers:

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One of many thousands of examples.

He got put on administrative leave, with pay, that's Western 'justice' for you. If it wasn't so sickening, I'd laugh in disbelief.

women who are clothed but naked, walking with an enticing gait, with something like the humps of camels on their heads.

I believe that there is more to this hadith, something to the effect of, ‘and these women will be lead astray, and will lead others astray.'.

(check out the hair, the skimpy clothes and the 'gait')

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Hmm:

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When I first came across this hadith, I thought that the reference to 'heads like camels humps', might refer to women who cut their hair short. Then again, there are many possible fulfillments of such prophecies, but it would seem clear that most of the Minor Signs have been fulfilled in numerous ways.
 
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