he insulted islam

acer

New Member
Assalam o alaykum

My first cousin - whom i am on v good terms otherwise has apparently become an apostate (one who leaves islam). He, however, never admits it ....but he throws clues here and there.

During his last visit he passed a comment .. "there's this man with a M on his beard and the whole Umma is following him !!! that's sooooo silly !!""

at that time i didnt make much of it - i had just discovered that he had been led astray and i tried to talk sense into him. he didnt give in. i didnt try after that. but i maintained my communication with him.

2 years down the line he is visiting again. My husband has refused for me to visit or speak to my cousin.- he says my cousin is insane and will influence me and my family and kids.

I am of the opinion that leaving the religion was his choice (as wrong as it was) and htat is somethign Allah will settle with my cousin. I will continue to meet him and exchange gifts.

Someone pls discuss with me before i go insane arguing abt this daily with my husband !!!
 
Someone pls discuss with me before i go insane arguing abt this daily with my husband !!!


why u r arguing with ur husband because of a jahil!

why dont u stop meeting with him? If u cant explain him his mistakes then stay away from him. It will effect u by hearing his insult.
 

sha587

Shahid abdullah
Sister you dont need to talk people who are jahil and you can not find out any reasonable question.

واذا خاطبھم الجاھلون قالو سلما
 

cmelbouzaidi

Junior Member
Assalamu alaikoum dear sister,

This must be a very difficult situation, to have a blood relative who you suspect has left Islam. It is something I cannot fully comprehend as I am a revert and the only one from my blood family who is Muslim.

However, I do know that our husbands have certain rights over us and one of them is that they can ask us not to be in touch with a certain person and we should adhere to this request. Therefore, I think you should distance yourself from this cousin as it could end up making a problem for you and your husband and you don't need that grief, especially if this person is trashing Islam and our beloved prophet, peace be upon him.

However, I would like to ask if anyone knows what is the official Islamic guideline of how to deal with someone in the family that you fear has left Islam, May Allah forgive us all?
If the person has not officially announced his leaving the religion, should this be treated differently from one who is outspoken about it?

Jazak Allahu Khair.

Wassalam
 

BintMuhammad

New Member
Staff member
Wa alaikumussalaam warahmatullaah,

Listen to your husband and ask him to talk to your cousin or any other male relative who are practicing. May Allaah subhanahu wa ta'ala guide him Aameen.
 

Zainudin Jaffar

Strive to be Mukmin
Wa alaikumussalaam warahmatullaah,

Listen to your husband and ask him to talk to your cousin or any other male relative who are practicing. May Allaah subhanahu wa ta'ala guide him Aameen.

Follow the above and make lots of duas...........

I'm with you sis....

Wassalam
 

Elias_Zakariyya

New Member
Allah leads though He wishes to Islam and lets stray those He wishes. Had He wished all to be Muslim He could have and would have doen so. I agreee with your husand about not letting the children visit your cousin since children are easily influenced, especially if something seems easier or "cooler". But you seem strong in Islam and he is your blood and it is Harram to cut those blood ties. Perhaps ask why your cousin why he is so far from Islam. Maybe it is anger at parents or other family and the best way he can think/see to hurt them is thorough religion and the lack there of in his life. It could be where he lives. Encourage him to attend the masjid with the other men in the family when he visits and Inshallah he will find what he is missing is Allah. In the end, we alll need to turn Him for help and sustanence.
 
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ibnu tashfeen

Guest
Assalamu alaikoum dear sister,

This must be a very difficult situation, to have a blood relative who you suspect has left Islam. It is something I cannot fully comprehend as I am a revert and the only one from my blood family who is Muslim.

However, I do know that our husbands have certain rights over us and one of them is that they can ask us not to be in touch with a certain person and we should adhere to this request. Therefore, I think you should distance yourself from this cousin as it could end up making a problem for you and your husband and you don't need that grief, especially if this person is trashing Islam and our beloved prophet, peace be upon him.

However, I would like to ask if anyone knows what is the official Islamic guideline of how to deal with someone in the family that you fear has left Islam, May Allah forgive us all?
If the person has not officially announced his leaving the religion, should this be treated differently from one who is outspoken about it?

Jazak Allahu Khair.

Wassalam
:salam2:
j'ai penser que tu etais maghrebin allahi
 

Albint_Almuslima

Im Proud 2 B Me!
Asalam Alakum,

Sister u must not give up... since ur already meeting with ur cousin try every way u can to explain 2 him that the path that he walks in is the wrong path. And ur husband should help u as well, Ur husband should know that one must not leave their brother in Islam at a time of need. ur cousin is truly in need of both of u right now.

And If ur cousin refuses to listen have an imam contact him, i know alot of people who have done that in the past.

And still if that does not work than keep him in ur prayers and Allah will guide him if he wills.... "In Allah yahdi men yasha"

:tti_sister:May Allah help everyone... May Allah help those who are astray and guide them to the right path..The path of Islam.. May he always be with us every step of the way and never leave us to go astray.... Ameeeeeeeeen:tti_sister:

salam,
 

amirah80

*Fear Allah*
Wa alaikumussalaam warahmatullaah,

Listen to your husband and ask him to talk to your cousin or any other male relative who are practicing. May Allaah subhanahu wa ta'ala guide him Aameen.

:salam2:

This was good advice. We must obey our husbands unless they go against Islam. Which your husband is trying to protect you and his family so you must obey. Do not let this destroy your family even though I know you dont want to see your cousin go astray. Let someone that is very strong in Islam who can answer alot of your cousins questions throughly because he must have some doubts and unanswered questions that whomever he speaks with can give daleel and not push your cousin further away from Islam. Maybe Imam or Sheikh.

:wasalam:
Sister Amirah80
 

acer

New Member
The power of Dua

I am left astonished to see the number of replies i got ... JazakAllah for taking out time to reply to me.......

I hope it will be easier for you to believe what happened .... i am still in shock by the result .......in just 1 week.

I spent 3 days relentlessly arguing with my husband at times till 2 am ! He refused to accept my point of view. I reminded him every day of his wrong views.

Then i gave my husband 2 pages of hadith and quranic references ..... He said this was different to our situation ! it was as if he was being blinded by s/thing.

He then on the 3rd day told me ...... DONT MENTION HIM AGAIN - I DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT. I was literally in depression for 2 - 3 days.

I got v.v.v frustrated and i prayed to ALlah in my Zuhar namaz on the 5th day ..... i didnt even pray for my kids, life and parents as per norm - instead i spent a whole 5-6minute sajdah asking God if i was wrong or right - and if i was right .... to give my husband hidayat ..... and make him say.....Ok go meet him and i will come with you ..... we will help him to come back ! and if i was wrong .......then to take away my depression and give me hidayath.

My husband came home after Isha namaz that same day and called me aside - and said ......i have been thinking about those references you gave me to read - u r right..... i cannot be so stubborn ..... you go and meet him - i give you permission and wehn u go tell me .......i will come too.....lets see what we can do .....

Alhumdoillah .......
Alhumdoillah .......
Alhumdoillah .......

It is now almost 2 days since all this happened and i still cannot believ it .....

dua can change our life, our outlook, and our fate. It is the most potent weapon of a believer.

Pray and Allah shall listen - he will show us the path.
 

acer

New Member
Quranic references.....

some of these references i would like to share with you all ..... it was a great teaching for me too....

Apostates or Renegades are those who decide to leave the religion of Islam. There is a widely prevailing misconception about this issue. It is generally thought that the Holy Quran (The Muslims Holy Scripture) provides the death sentence for those who desert the religion of Islam. There is not the least ground for such a supposition. The Holy Quran speaks repeatedly of people going back to unbelief after believing, but never once does it say that they should be killed or punished.

“God does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes – from dealing kindly and justly with them. Indeed, God loves those who act justly. God only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion – (forbids) that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers.” (Quran 60:8-9)

As observed above the Qur`an expects us to deal with apostates like other kuffar. Therefore the Qur`anic guidance for dealing with the apostates is essentially the same as its guidance for dealing with other kuffar. Briefly, this guidance is that we should treat them according to the degree of friendship or hostility they show to Islam and Muslims.

It is to be stressed that Islam teaches its adherents to interact with all people and wish good for the whole of mankind. Muslims are taught to care for all people regardless of their faith or their opinions. In their relation with non-Muslims, Muslims should be aware of and observe their religious duties.


You should think of and treat Apostates & non-Muslims as potential Muslims. Show them the respect and kindness they deserve as human beings, and perhaps your good behavior will lead them to Islam.

The life-story of the Prophet of Islam gives many instances of his kind, tolerant co-existence.

look at Noble Verses 109:1-6 "Say : O ye that reject Faith! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to me mine."
 

cmelbouzaidi

Junior Member
:salam2:

Dear sister, I am glad you and your husband are now together in this. Insha Allah, you will be able to bring your cousin back to Islam as it seems he was not too vocal about leaving Islam in the first place. Whatever his problem is, however, he should not blame the religion of Islam nor make rude comments about our beloved prophet Mohammed, peace be upon him. Nothing from Islam has created his dilemma and the doubts are simply whispering from Satan. This life is too short to stray from the right path, we need to put ourselves right in the eyes of Allah to succeed in this test that is life. May Allah give you and your husband the right words to guide your cousin, Insha Allah, if your cousin is to be one who is meant to be guided.

Take care sister.

:wasalam:
 
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