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Southrn_Muslimah

bnqɯnɥ 'ɥɐq
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Okay I am talking to someone about Allah and I am stuck with a question
Here is his question. He is Christian by the way and I am not a scholar...

"you cant be a human first and then become god but if you are god first and have infinite power over everything then wouldnt it be possible for him to become human or have the appearance of a human if it was his will?"

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Mohsin

abdu'Allah
Assalamu-alaikum

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Sister, this a long ARTICLE and I haven't read it but its by Bilal Philips so I hope it will be of some help, inshaAllah.

I once heard Dr. Zakir Naik on this topic, I will try to find that video and put it here, inshaAllah.

P.S. Ok, I found it

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Mohsin

abdu'Allah
Assalamu-alaikum

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Another brotherly advice sister,
Invite (mankind, O Muhammad SAW) to the Way of your Lord (i.e. Islâm) with wisdom (i.e. with the Divine Revelation and the Qur'ân) and fair preaching, and argue with them in a way that is better. Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His Path, and He is the Best Aware of those who are guided. (125)

Verily, proofs have come to you from your Lord, so whosoever sees, will do so for (the good of) his ownself, and whosoever blinds himself, will do so to his own harm, and I (Muhammad SAW) am not a watcher over you. (104) Thus We explain variously the Verses so that they (the disbelievers) may say: "You have studied (the Books of the people of the Scripture and brought this Qur'ân from that)" and that We may make the matter clear for the people who have knowledge. (105) Follow what has been revealed to you (O Muhammad SAW) from your Lord, Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He) and turn aside from Al-Mushrikûn.[] (106) Had Allâh willed, they would not have taken others besides Him in worship. And We have not made you a watcher over them nor are you a Wakil (disposer of affairs, guardian or trustee) over them. (107) And insult not those whom they (disbelievers) worship besides Allâh, lest they insult Allâh wrongfully without knowledge. Thus We have made fair¬seeming to each people its own doings; then to their Lord is their return and He shall then inform them of all that they used to do.[] (108) And they swear their strongest oaths by Allâh, that if there came to them a sign, they would surely believe therein. Say: "Signs are but with Allâh and what will make you (Muslims) perceive that (even) if it (the sign) came, they will not believe?" (109) And We shall turn their hearts and their eyes away (from guidance), as they refused to believe therein for the first time, and We shall leave them in their trespass to wander blindly. (110) And even if We had sent down unto them angels, and the dead had spoken unto them, and We had gathered together all things before their very eyes, they would not have believed, unless Allâh willed, but most of them behave ignorantly. (111)


And if they belie you, say: "For me are my deeds and for you are your deeds! You are innocent of what I do, and I am innocent of what you do!" (41) And among them are some who listen to you, but can you make the deaf to hear,— even though they apprehend not? (42) And among them are some who look at you, but can you guide the blind,— even though they see not? (43) Truly! Allâh wrongs not mankind in aught; but mankind wrong themselves. (44)


You shall certainly be tried and tested in your wealth and properties and in your personal selves, and you shall certainly hear much that will grieve you from those who received the Scripture before you (Jews and Christians) and from those who ascribe partners to Allâh; but if you persevere patiently, and become Al-Muttaqûn (the pious - See V.2:2) then verily, that will be a determining factor in all affairs (and that is from the great matters which you must hold on with all your efforts). (186)

So my advice is that alongwith all these arguments that you gonna put to that person, seek from Allah thier guidence. Another thing is that, you will realise after few minutes of talking that if the person is genuine in their purpose or not. So, if the talks are all just for the sake of argument then try to restrain from idle talk.

Ma'assalaam

P.S. Correction

One thing that i forgot to mention about these ayaats is that almost all these ayaats were revealed after more or less 10 years of extensive dawah from the prophet (SAW)
 

Southrn_Muslimah

bnqɯnɥ 'ɥɐq
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Indeed those ayats helped alot. One of them is my signature lol. This person is truly trying to understand what Islam is all about. I am giving him everything possible like links, the video you sent and all...I think his intentions are good.

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IbnAlAawam

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Tell them what God says in their Bible:

I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city.
Hosea 11:9 KJ

For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Malachi 3:6 KJ
 

Mohsin

abdu'Allah
Assalamu-alaikum

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Jazaki-Allah for not taking my advice otherwise cuz many times people think that we think negativly. My intentions too are good from those words and I will pray to Allah SWT to guide that person for he knows what is in our hearts and he guides those who wish to be guided.

May Allah guide us all on to the path that leads to his mercy and keep us steadfast on his deen.
 
"you cant be a human first and then become god but if you are god first and have infinite power over everything then wouldnt it be possible for him to become human or have the appearance of a human if it was his will?"

God has power over everything but does it mean that he can also lie or he will also lie?GOd has power over everything but does it mean he will do unjustice? answer is :no

God do only those things which is Godly, which make a difference between the god and his creature
 
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