History of 786

Abu_Luqmann

Junior Member
Assalamualaikum,

Would anyone tell me the history behind the association of '786' with Islam? I know that it is a bid'ah, but was curious to know how it started off in the first place.
 

samiha

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Staff member
Wa'Alaykum salam wa rahmatullah

Here's a relevant re-post :

Assalamu alykum, Bismillahi Rahmaani Raheem.

"786" - Does it stand for 'Bismillahi Rahmaani Raheem'?​

We are meant to understand that '786' stands for 'Bismillahi Rahmaani Raheem'. How did it come about, and who started it? The numeral 786 in no way represent ‘Bismillahi Rahmaani Raheem’ and is not the Sunnat way. If one fears abuse of the letter, etc. 'Bismillahi Rahmaani Raheem' should be recited verbally at the beginning of the letter which will suffice for the written script. Refer below.


CAN NUMBER 786 REPLACE THE HOLY NAME OF GOD?
The innovation of writing '786' replacing 'Bismillahi Rahmaani Raheem' has been adopted for a long time and the majority of the Ummah is still indulged in it advertently. Apart from the common folk, the scholars also heed no attention towards it and to avoid disrespect to the Holy Words they use it in their letters and documents. They adopt it as 'correct' and 'better' way to invite Allah's blessings and have also started replacing the Holy Words by this number on their houses, offices, buildings, etc.

Unfortunately, this tendency is gradually gaining momentum. But, do we see this number instead of the Holy Words in the Holy Quran? Or, can we write it there as well? Can we remove 'Bismillahi Rahmaani Raheem' from the top of Surah al-Faatiha and replace it with the number 786? Obviously not. If we study the Quran, we see it carries the holy words in a letter from Prophet Solomon (pbuh) to the Queen of Sheeba - Bilqis - who was an infidel at that time. Even Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in his letters to different heads of states and governments, used the holy words at the top.
Therefore, whosoever uses ‘786’ with the intention to obtain Allah's blessings, is a misguided person and any attempt to justify it, is ignorance. More astonishing is that fact that '786' is an aggregation of the numbers of Hindu 'Lord Hari Krishna'. H(a)iri Kr(i)shna h-5, r-200, r-10, k-20, r-200, sh-300, n-50, a-1 = Aggregate of 786.

Thus, the aggregate number of these letters (Hari Krishna) equals 786. This is also the case of 'Bismillahi Rahmaani Raheem'. Therefore, it is necessary to avoid using this number to avoid the danger of being indulging in infidelity.
Islam's foundation is laid on the belief in Tawheed (oneness of God). If we associate anyone with Allah's exalted names orally or practically, we would be committing infidelity that is an unpardonable sin.
The Quran warns us, one who finds a rival against Allah, Allah will never allow him to enter paradise, and his abode is the hell. The letters by the Prophet (pbuh) to non-Muslim Kings and chiefs bear the holy words 'Bismillahi Rahmaani Raheem'. This was also the case of his noble companions. Did the Prophet (pbuh) and his companions respect the Holy Words less than we do? Was the verse, 'Today I completed your religion for you', revealed to the Prophet (pbuh) or to the so-called scholars of our age who are all bent to amend the Divine principles.

Now, when it became known that '786' is written in place of Hindu, 'Lord Krishna', and has no significance in the Holy Quran and Sunnah, it is obviously an innovation and goes against the Divine doctrine of 'Obey Allah and His Prophet'. Similarly, some Muslims replace Allah's name by the number '66' and the Prophet's name by '92'. But if one ask, the number '420' is used against somebody's name and he is called '420'. Can he bear such an insult? Calling someone by a nick name is a sin. Allah Ta'ala says, 'Don't call one another by nick names'. If Allah prohibits the use of nicknames for fellow human beings, how can He allow the use of such insulting replacement number for Himself and His Prophet (pbuh). 'Bismillahi Rahmaani Raheem' great significance in the Quran and Muslims are ordered to begin any work but in the names Allah, not in the number of '786' or any other substitution.

Fozail Aqdas Ghazali
The Message
Saudi Gazette, Friday - September 29 1995

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:jazaak: to original poster

wasalam
 

Almeftah

Junior Member
I just don't get people who have no respect to Allah or islam as both Quran and Hadith are ment to be our main islamic Constitutional Sources.
When it comes the Constitution of any country, Hell raises when hearing someone talking about change.. But when it comes to the Constitution of islam which is given to us by Allah........Subhana Allah.

I don't know why people keep wasting most of thier time on such numbers that have nothing to do with islam.. And how they keep letting Shaytan mess up with thier heads making them believe that every new discovery is related to Quran as a miracle.

When it comes to Quran or Hadith one must not adjust, change, replace or switch any word of them.. For those who do, Allah will descend upon them his greatest punishment in this life and/or in the hereafter.

Then leave Me Alone with such as belie this Qur'ân. We shall punish them gradually from directions they perceive not. (44) And I will grant them a respite. Verily, My Plan is strong. (45) Or is it that you (O Muhammad SAW) ask them a wage, so that they are heavily burdened with debt? (46) Or that the Ghaib (unseen — here in this Verse it means Al-Lauh Al-Mahfûz) is in their hands, so that they can write it down? (47)[68.Surah Al-Qalam]
 

Abu_Luqmann

Junior Member
Assalamualaikum,

Jazakallahu Khairan for replying.
But I am trying to find out how it started in the first place.
It did not start as an abbreviation for the Hindu Lord Krishna.
I have bit of an inclination for history! :)
 

amirah80

*Fear Allah*
:salam2:

Jazak Allah Khair Sister for the information on 786 I knew nothing about. In a way that is a good think since it is bid'ah.
 
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