how can we go to heaven if..

FreedomFighter

Junior Member
:salam2:

how can we go to heaven if the prophet (pbuh) said his own parents are in hell. when a man asked him about his own parents and the prophet said they are in hell. then the man got real sad and asked the prophet, how about your parents? and he said they are in hell. what did the prophet's parents do to go to hell? how did they know much about Islam apart form the haneefa who still believed in tawhid? im losing all hopes, its realy sad to think about.
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

The Prophet Muhammad (salallahu alayhi wa salam)'s parents were Mushrikeen. They were not believers of Allah, they did not have Tawheed.

They were not upon "Deen al Hanifa".

Praise be to Allaah. There is a hadeeth from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) which indicates that they are in Hell.
Muslim (203) narrated from Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) that a man said: “O Messenger of Allaah, where is my father?” He said: “In Hell.” When he turned away he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.”

Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
This shows that whoever dies in a state of kufr will be in Hell. And being related to one who is close to Allaah will not avail him anything. It also shows that whoever died during the fatrah (the interval between the Prophethood of ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) and that of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)) and was the follower of the way of the Arabs at that time, which was idol worship, will also be among the people of Hell. There is no excuse for the call not reaching them, because the call of Ibraaheem and other Prophets (peace be upon them) had reached these people.

Muslim (976) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I asked my Lord for permission to pray for forgiveness for my mother, but He did not give me permission. And I asked Him for permission to visit her grave, and He gave me permission.”

It says in ‘Awn al-Ma’bood:
“But He did not give me permission” means: because she was a kaafirah (disbeliever) and it is not permissible to pray for forgiveness for the kuffaar.

Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
This shows that it is not permitted to pray for forgiveness for the kuffaar.
Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
When the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “My father and your father are in Hell,” he spoke with knowledge, for he did not speak on the basis of his whims and desires, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“By the star when it goes down (or vanishes).
2. Your companion (Muhammad) has neither gone astray nor has erred.
3. Nor does he speak of (his own) desire.
4. It is only a Revelation revealed”
[al-Najm 53:1-4]

Were it not that proof has been established against ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib, the father of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would not have said what he did about him. Perhaps he had heard something that established proof against him on the basis of the religion of Ibraaheem, because they used to follow the religion of Ibraaheem until the innovations were introduced by ‘Amr ibn Luhayy al-Khuzaa’i and his innovations became widespread among the people, such as the propagation of idols and praying to them instead of to Allaah. Perhaps ‘Abd-Allaah had heard something that showed him that the idol worship of Quraysh was wrong, but he still followed them, and thus proof was established against him. Similarly, the hadeeth which says that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) asked for permission to pray for forgiveness for his mother but it was not granted, and he asked for permission to visit her grave and he was permitted to do so but not to pray for forgiveness for her, perhaps she had heard something that established proof against her, or perhaps the people of the Jaahiliyyah are to be treated as kuffaar as far as rulings in this world are concerned, so we should not pray for them or pray for forgiveness for them, because outwardly they seem to be kuffaar, and should be regarded and dealt with as such, and their case in the Hereafter is for Allaah to judge.

Fataawa Noor ‘ala al-Darb Al-Suyooti (may Allaah have mercy on him) was of the view that the parents of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) will be saved (from Hell), and that Allaah brought them back to life after they had died and they believed in him.
This view was rejected by the majority of scholars who ruled that the ahaadeeth which indicate that are fabricated (mawdoo’) or very weak (da’eef jiddan).

It says in ‘Awn al-Ma’bood:
Most of the reports that been narrated to the effect that the parents of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) were brought back to life and believed in him and were saved are fabricated and false. Some of them are very weak and cannot be saheeh under any circumstances, as the imams of hadeeth are unanimously agreed that they are fabricated, such as al-Daaraqutni, al-Jawzaqaani, Ibn Shaheen, al-Khateeb, Ibn ‘Asaakir, Ibn Naasir, Ibn al-Jawzi, al-Suhayli, al-Qurtubi, al-Muhibb, al-Tabari, Fath al-Deen ibn Sayyid al-Naas, Ibraaheem al-Halabi and others. The scholar Ibraaheem al-Halabi explained at length the fact that the parents of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) have not been saved from Hell in a separate essay, as did ‘Ali al-Qaari in Sharh al-Fiqh al-Akbar and in a separate essay. The basis for this opinion is the soundness of this hadeeth (“My father and your father are in Hell”). Shaykh Jalaal al-Deen al-Suyooti differed from the huffaaz and scholars and affirmed that they had believed and had been saved, and he wrote numerous essays on that topic, including al-Ta’zeem wa’l-Minnah fi anna Abaway Rasool-Illaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) fi’l-Jannah.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked: Is there any saheeh report from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) that Allaah brought his parents back to life so that they could become Muslims, then they died (again) after that?
He replied: There is no saheeh report to that effect from the scholars of hadeeth. Rather the scholars are agreed that this is an invented lie… There is no dispute among the scholars that this is one of the most obvious of fabrications, as was stated by those who have knowledge. That does not appear in any of the reliable books of hadeeth, either in the Saheehs or the Sunans or the Musnads or any other well-known books of hadeeth. It was not mentioned by the authors of the books of Maghaazi or Tafseer, even though they narrated da’eef (weak) reports along with saheeh (sound) ones. The fact that this is a lie is clear to any one who has any knowledge of religion. If such a thing had happened there would have been a great deal of motivation to transmit it, because it is something that is extraordinary on two counts: the raising of the dead and believing after death. Such a thing would have been more deserving of being transmitted than anything else. Since no trustworthy narrated transmitted it, it may be understood that this is a lie.

Moreover, this goes against the Qur’aan and the saheeh Sunnah, and the consensus of the scholars. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Allaah accepts only the repentance of those who do evil in ignorance and foolishness and repent soon afterwards; it is they whom Allaah will forgive and Allaah is Ever All‑Knower, All‑Wise.

18. And of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil deeds until death faces one of them and he says: ‘Now I repent;’ nor of those who die while they are disbelievers”​
[al-Nisa’ 4:17-18]

So Allaah states that there is no repentance for one who dies as a disbeliever. And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Then their Faith (in Islamic Monotheism) could not avail them when they saw Our punishment. (Like) this has been the way of Allaah in dealing with His slaves. And there the disbelievers lost utterly (when Our Torment covered them)”​
[Ghaafir 40:85]

So He tells us that the way in which He deals with His slaves is that faith will be to no avail once they have seen the punishment, so how about after death? And there are other similar texts. Then he quoted the two hadeeth which we quoted at the beginning of our answer.
Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 4/325-327.

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Lookingforlight

Slave of Allah
We go to Heaven or Hell through belief in Allah, not through blood connections. Even Ibrahim (AS), Nuh (AS), Lut (AS) had relatives who will not be from among the people of Paradise.
 

FreedomFighter

Junior Member
aslam o aliakum
sis, could you verify this , like where you getting this info, what is the hadith?

:wasalam:

here is a hadith about this

Muslim (203) narrated from Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) that a man said: “O Messenger of Allaah, where is my father?” He said: “In Hell.” When he turned away he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.”
 

FreedomFighter

Junior Member
jazakAllah khayran brothers for clarifying.

a person can benefit from three things after he dies. one of them are pious children who pray for the parents. did this become of any benefit to the prophet's parents?
 

ahmed_indian

to Allah we belong
a person can benefit from three things after he dies. one of them are pious children who pray for the parents. did this become of any benefit to the prophet's parents?

:salam2:,

why u r feeling upset? u believe in Allah and His messenger. prophet :saw: parents maybe did not believe in One Allah as they lived in pagan society. Allah knows best.

about child's prayer for his/her parents, its only when ur parents are muslims. as maybe prophet's parents were not muslims, the Dua's could not work.
 

FreedomFighter

Junior Member
:wasalam:

oh im getting it. anyways im not upset. but i would be upset if any one of you were to go to hell, or my parents, or my siblings, or my relatives, or friends, or the Muslims.
 

ahmed_indian

to Allah we belong
:wasalam:

oh im getting it. anyways im not upset. but i would be upset if any one of you were to go to hell, or my parents, or my siblings, or my relatives, or friends, or the Muslims.

then pray for all of us :D.

and be very pious muslim....in that way ur Dua's will be answered more inshallah.
 

FreedomFighter

Junior Member
yes inshaAllah im trying :) anyway this world is going realy quick and death is just around the corner. jazakAllah khayran.
 

islamisbeauty

New Member
Have faith sister i may be only 12 but i know the meaning of islam . and i belive that we are indeed the lucky ones some as we speak are suffering for their disobedience and betrayal to the almighty . after watching a video meeting with Allah i feel like a better person even thought i have commeted many sins . now i beg for allahs forgiveness as do all the other muslims in the world. so i beg you have faith and obey allah {saw} then you will be turly blessed:tti_sister:
 

FreedomFighter

Junior Member
^aww little sister :) jazakAllah khayran, its sweet of you. yes i have faith alhamdulillah. i have seen that video many times around here, in sis AmatuAllah4Lyf's signature but i didnt check it out due to not enough time, etc. i will surely check it out this time inshaAllah. may Allah bless you.
 
:salam2:

outside of all the informative replies posted already.

Shirk, is an unforgivable sin, it doesn't matter what anybody does for another person, if they believed in shirk.

The question arises if someone knew about it and whether it is a small or major one.

This will all be answer if you study tawhid. maybe spelled tawheed. And this is an extremely important subject to learn, because you can't formulate opinions if you are not strong in tawhid. There were excellent lessons by sheiks about this and books.

:wasalam:
 
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