In the court of the Chechen king

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Shishani

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People &Power - In the court of the Chechen king - 21 Oct 09

Ramzan Kadyrov, the Kremlin-backed Chechen president, is portrayed in the West as more of an autocratic gangster than a politician, often accused of brutally suppressing human rights. But how is he regarded in Chechnya itself?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8GgwFl5jxM

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al-fajr

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JazakAllaah khayr.

Kadyrov has abandonded the sincere muslims of Chechnya. May Allaah aid them and grant them victory, may His wrath be upon filth like Kadyrov, Ameen.

Wa-alaykum salaam.
 

BrotherInIslam7

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:salam2:

First of all, I am a bit shocked to see Grozny. I was imagining that it would be still in rubble and look like a war torn city.

I have some questions for bro ChechenMaga or anyone else in Chechenya..

(1) From my opinion (after viewing the report), I see that a false sense of development and investment is shown and promoted (buildings, school, mosques etc). But in truth, this is just to show that everything is fine,when in reality they are torturing their own people by prosecuting them for speaking against the ruler. Am i getting it right here ? I think people dont really like Ramzan, but on camera, they were forced to. Am I following it right ?

(2) It was mentioned that Ramzan, his father and some other people (like defense minister) used to fight against Soviets and Russia. What caused them to change sides ? Lure of power and money ?

(3) What is the state of Islam in present Chechenya ? Are there scholars who are guiding people towards the Quran and Sunnah ? Is Ramzan's uncle 'one of the most famous religious leaders' (as the report said) because of power only ?

(4) What is the state of the people in the hills (mujahideen) ? Are they rightly guided ? Are they fighting on terms laid down by Quran and Sunnah ? Are they making any advances on the Chechen government ? What are they called ?

I know very little about present Chechenya and the situation there, so this report seemed pretty informative.

I would be glad if anyone in Chechenya can take the time to reply or even post their own thoughts on the situation there.

May Allah swt grant people of Chechenya freedom, peace and bounties of mercy & blessing. Ameen.

May Allah swt guide us all and keep us on our deen. Ameen.

:wasalam:
 

Shishani

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Wa 'alaykum as-salaam wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuhoo, akhee.

I apologize for the late reply, didn't see the comments.

1) Yes, it seems like they are making a big show, by pretending that everything is alright. It is true that they build mosques, that more youth goes to the mosques etc., but Allaah knows best what is the real purpose behind this.

It is not the Islaam the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) came with that they are spreading, rather that which they spread contains the filth of Shirk, Kufr and Bid'ah of Soofiyyah, and refuge is sought with Allaah!

2) Many Chechen rebels of the first war changed. They fought for he independence, but now chose the side of the pro-Russian government.
Some got tired of the war, others tasted this Dunyaa and wanted to chase it. Allaah knows best what the intentions are.

3) That which is spread is pure Soofiyyah (sufism). Shirk of qubooriyyoon (graveworshippers), kufr of secularists, bid'ah of the mubtadi'ah (innovators)! There are no Tullaab al-'Ilm (students of knowledge) who are on Tawheed and Sunnah, let alone 'Ulamaa (scholars)!
Nas-alullaah al-'aafiyah.

4) Most of the veterans among the Mujaahideen have passed away, may Allaah have mercy on them and forgive their sins. The likes of Khattaab, may Allaah reward him for the spreading of the truth, Maskhadov, Basayev, Abdul-Halim Sadulayev and others.

Today most of the fighters are young men, most of them in their 20s. They are Ahlus-Sunnah, may Allaah grant them knowledge and understanding, however they make mistakes. And we do not insult any of them without proof and reason. Most of them are brothers who just got to know Tawheed and Sunnah, just got to know what the real Islaam is.
However, there are some people, the "religious leaders" there, who have mistakes. For example now, the last few months, suicidebombings are carried out. This wasn't known before. A few of those "religious leaders", students who studied Islaam for a while in the past (e.g. Islamic University of Madeenah), go astray when it comes to subjects as Takfeer, Jihaad, 'Ulamaa, etc. May Allaah straighten their affairs and grant them knowledge.

The thing is, the number of mujaahideen is small. Maybe it is 1000, or more, Allaah knows best. I'm talking about the whole of Northern Caucasus. They do not have power, nor do they have that which they need to fight against an army. They live in forests and go to the city and fight the cops, or the cops go to the forests and there the battle begins...

The main problem:

The worst and greatest danger in the Northern Caucasus is SHIRK! May Allaah guide Ahl ash-Sheeshaan, and al-Qawqaaz in general! People are calling upon the dead, upon their "awliyaa", their shaykhs, upon Rasoolullaah. This is present since Islaam spread in the Caucasus, but not the real Islaam spread, rather Sufism spread, with it's shirk and bid'ah.

Now there is a hunt for "wahhabis". Everyone who goes against their shirk, practises Tawheed by worshipping Allaah alone and calling upon ar-Rahmaan alone, not associating partners with Him, is considered a "wahhaabee".

If you don't even say a word about politics, don't critisize the government and don't talk about war etc., you are still a "wahhaabee" who calls for deviance, if you are just worshipping Allaah alone and following the Sunnah of Rasoolullaah.

The people don't know Islaam, don't know Tawheed, don't know Sunnah. They lived their whole lives believing it is OK to make du'aa to dead people, jump around to worship Allaah saying it is dhikr etc. No one knew what the pure Islaam is.

Then suddenly after the first war a wave of influence came from the Middle-East. Out of nowhere people, who never wore correct hijaab, saw women dressed in long black dresses wearing niqaab! Young men with big beards!

Subhaan Allaah, my own mother told me that she saw a woman all in black wearing niqaab and gloves in a hot summer day! She also said that no one of our ancestors (when they were young) kept the beard. And that the one who didn't shave his beard was laughed at and it was said that he looked like a Russian monk!

A'oodhu billaah, this is how far the people's ignorance reaches.

Many young brothers got to know a part of the Sunnah, but they didn't know Islaam completely. There were men with beards dealing drugs, kidnapping and killing people, deceiving people, etc. All of this had a HUGE effect, a bad one... The people started to think that all men with beards are some thieves and criminals! This is the view they have! Why? Because of the IGNORANCE of the brothers back then during the war. May Allaah guide us.


May Allaah spread Tawheed upon this earth, destroy Shirk and Kufr, establish the Sunnah and destroy the Bid'ah.

We ask Allaah for success.
 
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Shishani

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Wa 'alaykum as-salaam wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh.

A lot of the imaams in the mosques in Chechnya for example are all Sufis. A group of them say it is allowed to ask the dead. They have the belief that the dead can hear and answer to the du'aa of the people. This is shirk.

Try to say it is not allowed, and critisize that shirk, you'll see what happens.

What I meant with no students of knowledge was that there are no such people who are upon Tawheed and Sunnah. Yes, there are educated Sufis, but they have bad 'aqeedah, who have studied for 5, 10 or 15 years even, in Syria for example. If there are some brothers of Ahlus-Sunnah upon Tawheed and far from shirk, then they are not the imaams in the mosques.

Such people don't get the chance to do da'wah to the masses...

In other republics of Northern Caucasus there are people of the Sunnah, who live there, or maybe even call the people to pure Tawheed and Sunnah, but that is a small number of brothers, or they have some problems and can't give da'wah normally.

Allaah knows best.
 
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BrotherInIslam7

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Walaikumsalaam waa rahmatullahi waa barakatahu Akhee Chechen..

Jazakallah Khayran for your detailed and insightful reply. As I mentioned in my previous post, I had very little knowledge about Chechenya's condition and didn't know what to make of media reports which we are brainwashed with.

This problem of Shirk & Soofiyyah filth is wide spread in my country also. While I was reading your post, I almost felt like you were talking about the situation in my country.

La Hawla waa Quwatta Illa Billah

May Allah swt out of his mercy, guide the people of Northern Causasus to the path of Quran and Sunnah & away from the heresy of Soofiyyah & Kufr. Ameen.

May Allah swt reward and guide the mujahideen towards proper way of performing Jihad. Ameen

Wasalaamalaikum waa rahmatullahi waa barakatahu
 

Shishani

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BrotherInIslam7, wa 'alaykum as-salaam wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh! Ameen on your du'aa. With Allaah lies all success!

Jannatul_Firdaws, brother, what did I say wrong? I don't accuse anyone of shirk, unless they do it... If someone calls upon the dead, asks them for help, guidance, health etc. - then he is commiting shirk. This is clear.

That's all I'm saying. May Allaah guide us.
 

al-fajr

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Okey so since you are accusing the majority of the muslims in Chechnya of shirk, I am asking what is your opinion about the muslims in other countries? Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Egypt? Are they upon the Tawheed?

I just ask you what your opinion was about the muslims in those countries.

Its not a mudslinging match between muslims of different countries ..muslims as a whole are in a bad way due to the same reasons mentioned in ChechenMaga's post. This thread is specifically about Chechnya, hence the problems were mentioned within that context.

Wa-alaykum salaam.
 
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