Is abaya necessary

allah is with me

Rabana Wa laqal Hamd
well, salamualaikum sisters.......
well, i had a doubt , as my friend said me that ' abaya is very necessary for a women' , but i never heard in any hadith, trhat abaya is necessary, allah has said not to expose our self, thats it, he has not said us to wear abaya....
but i still have a doubt..
is abaya necessary ?
i hope you explain :blackhijab:
jasakallah khairun
 

runayrus

Yearning Slave
:wasalam: sister,

I hope this helps.

Requirements for proper Islamic dress for a woman

Being a Muslim Woman, how must they wear their attire to say that she is a muslim woman?

Scholars have specified the requirements of the Muslim-woman's proper dress before al-ajaanib (lit. foreigners, i.e., those to whom marriage is permissible) from both the Glorious Qur'aan and the sunnah. Once a woman adheres to such conditions, she can wear whatever she likes and go out into public places so far as her hijaab complies with the Islamic law. A summary of the requirements are as follows:
It should cover the whole body. It should be thick enough, i.e. non-transparent or translucent. It should be loose and not tight on her body. It should not be decorated or ornate such as to attract onlookers. It should not be perfumed. It should not be considered libaas al-shuhrah. It should not resemble the dress of men. It should not resemble the dress of the unbelievers. It should not bear crosses or depictions of anything with a soul (humans, animals, etc).

This is a summary of the requirements according to the Islamic shari'ah. A complete answer with the major daleel for each one shall be published in shaa' Allaah.

Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid
 

runayrus

Yearning Slave
And I found this too.


What is the Islamic ruling on a woman whose attitude towards wearing Islamic dress is too relaxed and who sits with her brother in law?


Praise be to Allaah.

The Qur’aan and Sunnah both direct women to cover themselves and avoid displaying their adornments in front of “strangers” (non-mahram men). The Qur’aan tells the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) (interpretation of the meaning):

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allâh is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful” [al-Ahzaab 33:59].

Allaah commanded His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to start by telling his wives and daughters to wear the jilbaab (i.e., the abaayah or an outer garment), because he and his family are examples for the believing men and women, then he was to command the believing women to do likewise:

“That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed” means, if a woman wears the jilbaab, it will be known that she is a decent woman who covers herself and desires chastity, unlike the women of the Jaahiliyyah who uncovered their adornments and temptations in front of all men, so she herself would be tempted and she would tempt others, she was misled and she misled others, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) described them in the hadeeth narrated by Muslim:

“There are two types of the people of Hell whom I have not seen: men with whips like the tails of cattle with which they strike the people, and women who are clothed but naked, walking with an enticing gait, with something like the humps of camels on their heads. They will not enter Paradise nor even smell its fragrance, and its fragrance can be smelled from such and such a distance.”

The Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) also warned against having too relaxed an attitude towards the matter of women mixing with men who are not her mahrams, or who are only temporarily her mahrams, like her sister’s husband or her husband’s brother and so on. He (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Beware of entering upon women.” They said, “O Messenger of Allaah, what do you think about the brother-in-law?” he said: “The brother in law is death.” I.e., many people have a relaxed attitude towards the brother-in-law entering upon women, until some disaster happens as a result, that they never thought would happen because they trusted their brother-in-law! This is neglecting reality, because no man is alone with a (non-mahram) woman but the Shaytaan is the third one present with them, and no woman is exposed to temptation but she will give in, except for those on whom Allaah has mercy. We ask Allaah to keep us all safe from that, and to help us follow His words (interpretation of the meaning):

“And all of you beg Allaah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful” [al-Noor 24:31]

Masaa’il wa Rasaa’il, Muhammad al-Mahmood al-Najdi, p. 11
 

allah is with me

Rabana Wa laqal Hamd
And I found this too.


What is the Islamic ruling on a woman whose attitude towards wearing Islamic dress is too relaxed and who sits with her brother in law?


Praise be to Allaah.

The Qur’aan and Sunnah both direct women to cover themselves and avoid displaying their adornments in front of “strangers” (non-mahram men). The Qur’aan tells the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) (interpretation of the meaning):

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allâh is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful” [al-Ahzaab 33:59].

Allaah commanded His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to start by telling his wives and daughters to wear the jilbaab (i.e., the abaayah or an outer garment), because he and his family are examples for the believing men and women, then he was to command the believing women to do likewise:

“That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed” means, if a woman wears the jilbaab, it will be known that she is a decent woman who covers herself and desires chastity, unlike the women of the Jaahiliyyah who uncovered their adornments and temptations in front of all men, so she herself would be tempted and she would tempt others, she was misled and she misled others, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) described them in the hadeeth narrated by Muslim:

“There are two types of the people of Hell whom I have not seen: men with whips like the tails of cattle with which they strike the people, and women who are clothed but naked, walking with an enticing gait, with something like the humps of camels on their heads. They will not enter Paradise nor even smell its fragrance, and its fragrance can be smelled from such and such a distance.”

The Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) also warned against having too relaxed an attitude towards the matter of women mixing with men who are not her mahrams, or who are only temporarily her mahrams, like her sister’s husband or her husband’s brother and so on. He (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Beware of entering upon women.” They said, “O Messenger of Allaah, what do you think about the brother-in-law?” he said: “The brother in law is death.” I.e., many people have a relaxed attitude towards the brother-in-law entering upon women, until some disaster happens as a result, that they never thought would happen because they trusted their brother-in-law! This is neglecting reality, because no man is alone with a (non-mahram) woman but the Shaytaan is the third one present with them, and no woman is exposed to temptation but she will give in, except for those on whom Allaah has mercy. We ask Allaah to keep us all safe from that, and to help us follow His words (interpretation of the meaning):

“And all of you beg Allaah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful” [al-Noor 24:31]

Masaa’il wa Rasaa’il, Muhammad al-Mahmood al-Najdi, p. 11

thanks sis
 

ahmed_indian

to Allah we belong
salaam alaikum,

i liked one scholar's words (i think Ibn Baaz or Al-albani - may Allah's mercy upon them) regarding this.

that covering face is not obligatory but if fitnah/ temptations are high its better to cover.

so as nowadays, ppl's heart are not pure and dont lower the eyes, its best to wear abaya.

may Allah give me a wife who wears complete abaya. Ameen
 

allah is with me

Rabana Wa laqal Hamd
salaam alaikum,

i liked one scholar's words (i think Ibn Baaz or Al-albani - may Allah's mercy upon them) regarding this.

that covering face is not obligatory but if fitnah/ temptations are high its better to cover.

so as nowadays, ppl's heart are not pure and dont lower the eyes, its best to wear abaya.

may Allah give me a wife who wears complete abaya. Ameen

ya! your right...
 

slaveofAllah88

Slave of Allah (swt)
aslam o alikum
i heard Dr Zakir speak on this , he said there is no where in the Quran or sunnah mentioning of like Abaya or niqaab , so something that covers women fully
is it true?
 

allah is with me

Rabana Wa laqal Hamd
aslam o alikum
i heard Dr Zakir speak on this , he said there is no where in the Quran or sunnah mentioning of like Abaya or niqaab , so something that covers women fully
is it true?

ya! the same question arises in my mind... i think people wear it , for not attracting them selves..but i dont ... i dont know?
 

slaveofAllah88

Slave of Allah (swt)
ya! the same question arises in my mind... i think people wear it , for not attracting them selves..but i dont ... i dont know?

:salam2:
Yea sister, I feel like its for a higher level of modesty for which Allah (swt) which reward our sister Inshallah but i dont think its a minimal requirement
 

Al-Kashmiri

Well-Known Member
Staff member
aslam o alikum
i heard Dr Zakir speak on this , he said there is no where in the Quran or sunnah mentioning of like Abaya or niqaab , so something that covers women fully
is it true?

As-salaamu `alaykum

With all respect, Dr. Zakir Naik is not a scholar of Islaam, he is a scholar of comparative religion. He is not a mufti or judge of any kind, and as far as I am aware, he isn't strong in the `Arabic language. Abaya and Niqaab are not specifically mentioned in the Qur'aan, I don't know anyone who claims that. But their meanings are clearly implied, since they fulfill the requirements of hijaab. That doesn't mean of course that they are the only correct forms of hijaab.

But at the same time, if someone says, "Abaya and Niqaab aren't mentioned in the Qur'aan so I'll stick to what I have", and by this they reject covering properly, then this is terrible. So we need to be careful with what we say, and how we understand someone's speech, because what Dr. Zakir said, may have been taken the wrong way by some people.

So abaaya and niqaab not being mentioned in the Qur'aan, doesn't mean for example that sisters shouldn't need to worry, and that their dupatta, sandals and colourful salwar kameez are a sufficient covering, or that their open neck julaabah is just fine, or their tight western clothes with a "scarf". I say this because, if we read the tafseer and understand what the words regarding covering mean, in terms of the `Arabic language as well as the religion, the matter becomes clear. It becomes even clearer when we read the ahaadeeth on the subject, and see how the companions, the salaf implemented these commands. See what Ibn Katheer has to say in his tafseer of the verses 24:31 and 33:59,

http://tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=24&tid=35857
http://tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=33&tid=42193
 

slaveofAllah88

Slave of Allah (swt)
:salam2:
thank you brother, for clearing this misconception :) its a good thing i asked on the forum
JAzakALlah khair
As-salaamu `alaykum

With all respect, Dr. Zakir Naik is not a scholar of Islaam, he is a scholar of comparative religion. He is not a mufti or judge of any kind, and as far as I am aware, he isn't strong in the `Arabic language. Abaya and Niqaab are not specifically mentioned in the Qur'aan, I don't know anyone who claims that. But their meanings are clearly implied, since they fulfill the requirements of hijaab. That doesn't mean of course that they are the only correct forms of hijaab.

But at the same time, if someone says, "Abaya and Niqaab aren't mentioned in the Qur'aan so I'll stick to what I have", and by this they reject covering properly, then this is terrible. So we need to be careful with what we say, and how we understand someone's speech, because what Dr. Zakir said, may have been taken the wrong way by some people.

So abaaya and niqaab not being mentioned in the Qur'aan, doesn't mean for example that sisters shouldn't need to worry, and that their dupatta, sandals and colourful salwar kameez are a sufficient covering, or that their open neck julaabah is just fine, or their tight western clothes with a "scarf". I say this because, if we read the tafseer and understand what the words regarding covering mean, in terms of the `Arabic language as well as the religion, the matter becomes clear. It becomes even clearer when we read the ahaadeeth on the subject, and see how the companions, the salaf implemented these commands. See what Ibn Katheer has to say in his tafseer of the verses 24:31 and 33:59,

http://tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=24&tid=35857
http://tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=33&tid=42193
 

allah is with me

Rabana Wa laqal Hamd
As-salaamu `alaykum

With all respect, Dr. Zakir Naik is not a scholar of Islaam, he is a scholar of comparative religion. He is not a mufti or judge of any kind, and as far as I am aware, he isn't strong in the `Arabic language. Abaya and Niqaab are not specifically mentioned in the Qur'aan, I don't know anyone who claims that. But their meanings are clearly implied, since they fulfill the requirements of hijaab. That doesn't mean of course that they are the only correct forms of hijaab.

But at the same time, if someone says, "Abaya and Niqaab aren't mentioned in the Qur'aan so I'll stick to what I have", and by this they reject covering properly, then this is terrible. So we need to be careful with what we say, and how we understand someone's speech, because what Dr. Zakir said, may have been taken the wrong way by some people.

So abaaya and niqaab not being mentioned in the Qur'aan, doesn't mean for example that sisters shouldn't need to worry, and that their dupatta, sandals and colourful salwar kameez are a sufficient covering, or that their open neck julaabah is just fine, or their tight western clothes with a "scarf". I say this because, if we read the tafseer and understand what the words regarding covering mean, in terms of the `Arabic language as well as the religion, the matter becomes clear. It becomes even clearer when we read the ahaadeeth on the subject, and see how the companions, the salaf implemented these commands. See what Ibn Katheer has to say in his tafseer of the verses 24:31 and 33:59,

http://tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=24&tid=35857
http://tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=33&tid=42193

so, is wearing western cloths also haram ?
 

Al-Kashmiri

Well-Known Member
Staff member
so, is wearing western cloths also haram ?

Nope, that's not what I meant, I said tight western clothing. I meant that wearing typical, casual western garments, such as jeans and a top, with a scarf is no way halaal. Of course, some skirts etc are suitable for hijaab. But most Western fashion is tight, revealing or see-through, so sisters should be careful... Of course, some is still suitable for underneath outer garments such as the abaaya.
 

allah is with me

Rabana Wa laqal Hamd
Nope, that's not what I meant. I meant that wearing typical, casual western garments, such as jeans and a top, with a scarf is no way halaal. Of course, some skirts etc are suitable for hijaab. But most Western fashion is tight, revealing or see-through, so sisters should be careful... Of course, some is still suitable for underneath outer garments such as the abaaya.

okay ! so you mean that we should not wear jeans ?
k, i agree, but if we wear long kurtaas and then wear jeans, then also is it haram?
 

Al-Kashmiri

Well-Known Member
Staff member
As-salaamu `alaykum.

Sister, it depends how and where you are wearing these clothes... I fail to see how a long knee length kurta with jeans underneath is sufficient for hijaab, and by hijaab I mean publicly. The jeans, they might not be body hugging, but the shape/thickness of ones legs will still be apparent won't they?

Allaah knows best. This is why I see it best for sisters to stick the the `Abaayah and Khimaar combo... In my opinion, there is less chance you'll have incorrect hijaab with this.
 

allah is with me

Rabana Wa laqal Hamd
As-salaamu `alaykum.

Sister, it depends how and where you are wearing these clothes... I fail to see how a long knee length kurta with jeans underneath is sufficient for hijaab, and by hijaab I mean publicly. The jeans, they might not be body hugging, but the shape/thickness of ones legs will still be apparent won't they?

Allaah knows best. This is why I see it best for sisters to stick the the `Abaayah and Khimaar combo... In my opinion, there is less chance you'll have incorrect hijaab with this.

well, ok! i agree.. i will avoid wearing such cloths (inshalllah)
 
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