IS IT ISLAMIC ?

Afees

New Member
:salam2: I need explaination on this pls.
if somebody or group of people (christians especially) pronounce bad statement against the deen or our prophet ,what should the muslims around do.
should they kill the person /group or burn down their places of worship.
OR
what is JIHAD in the real sense.
does it actually surport killing , burning of housees of the unbelievers
 

muslima89

Allah is merciful
:salam2: I need explaination on this pls.
if somebody or group of people (christians especially) pronounce bad statement against the deen or our prophet ,what should the muslims around do.
should they kill the person /group or burn down their places of worship.
OR
what is JIHAD in the real sense.
does it actually surport killing , burning of housees of the unbelievers

:salam2:

No, islam doesn't allow killing people, even if they do some bad statements about our deen. We just have to be tolerant.

Unfortunately some muslims still don't understand the true meaning of jihad.
Jihad means struggeling in islam and fighting agains evil like our own lower desires and against shaitan.

The matter changes when they attack us, and when we are in war, but still killing is not an option.

Sorry, gotta go. I'll write more about this inshaallah later

:wasalam:
 

uskupi

Junior Member
:salam2: I need explaination on this pls.
if somebody or group of people (christians especially) pronounce bad statement against the deen or our prophet ,what should the muslims around do.
should they kill the person /group or burn down their places of worship.
OR
what is JIHAD in the real sense.
does it actually surport killing , burning of housees of the unbelievers

assalam alaikum...afees(i assume that you are lieving in one non-muslim country) if there are some local authoreties whom you or you'r jemmah (associates) can refer than you should do that and make them clear that souch statements (like you mentioned) of individualls or groups it is not in favore of inter-religious tolerance(tolerance wich Islam highly recommends).As far as the Jihad is conserned in you'r case is to be patient with souch statements because there are people who do not know or have wrong introduction of Islam and as a consequence of that they make souch statements.You do not help (shaitan)to make that situation worse...assalam alaikum
 
Jihad can also be of the tongue or your wealth . It has greater rewards than the Jihad done with the sword .
As far I know - Jihad of the tongue/wealth can be used in such circumstances but not the Jihad of the sword .
 

Munawar

Striving for Paradise
:salam2:
There is a Hadith in which a Sahabi was beaten by the Kuffar and was forced to say bad things about Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) :astag: When prophet Mohammad (PBUH) heard about this incident he called that Sahabi and asked him what is in his heart. The Sahabi replied that he had Emaan and love of Allah and his Prophet in his heart.
The Prophet (PBUH) then said to him that if Kuffar beat him again and force him to say bad thing about Prophet (PBUH) he could say those words.

Such is the mercy of Islam. Read the history during the time of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) and you will be amazed how tollarent Islam is.

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JIHAD means struggle. The best Jihad is the one in which you fight aginst your own "nafs", i.e. against your temptations etc. The Arabic word for war is "Qitaal" not Jihad.
 

mahdi

Junior Member
salam

most people think jihad means killing people, but really that is not the case, jihad means struggle, not war, struggling with your "nafs", i.e. against your temptations is the most important one, but also you can struggle by war. like the mijahideen did in afghanistan, they struggled with the soviets who attacked and occupied their nation,
jihad dosn't mean, going and killing innocent people becasue they are infedels, any one who does that is not a muslim, .
 

abdellah007

Junior Member
salam alaykum

4:140 Already has He sent you Word in the Book, that when ye hear the signs of Allah held in defiance and ridicule, ye are not to sit with them unless they turn to a different theme: if ye did, ye would be like them. For Allah will collect the hypocrites and those who defy faith - all in Hell:-
 

massi

Junior Member
Ruling on jihad and kinds of jihad

Question:
In this day and Age is Jihad Fard on every able bodied Man?

Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly:

Jihaad is of various kinds, some of which are obligatory upon everyone who is accountable, and some are obligatory upon the community as a whole – if some people undertake them then the rest are relieved of the obligation. And some kinds of jihad are mustahabb.

Jihad al-nafs (jihad against one’s self) and jihad al-Shaytaan (jihad against the Shaytaan) are obligatory upon everyone who is accountable. Jihad against the munaafiqeen (hypocrites), kaafirs (disbelievers) and leaders of oppression and innovation is obligatory upon the community as a whole. Physical jihad (i.e. fighting) against the kaafirs may become an individual obligation upon everyone who is able to do it in certain circumstances, which will be described below.

Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

Once this is understood, then jihad is of four kinds: Jihad al-nafs (jihad against one’s self), jihad al-Shaytaan (jihad against the Shaytaan), jihad against the kaafirs and jihad against the hypocrites.

Jihad al-nafs (jihad against one’s self) is of four kinds:

1 – Striving to learn the teachings of Islam without which one cannot attain success and happiness in this world or in the Hereafter; if this is missing then one is doomed to misery in this world and in the Hereafter.

2 – Striving to make oneself act in accordance with what one has learned. Simply knowing without acting, even though it may not cause any harm, is not going to bring any benefit.

3 – Striving to call others to Islam, teaching those who do not know about it. Otherwise one will be one of those who conceal that which Allaah has revealed of guidance and teaching, and it will not benefit him or save him from the punishment of Allaah.

4 – Striving to bear patiently the difficulties involved in calling people to Allaah and the insults of people; bearing all that for the sake of Allaah.

If a person achieves all these four levels, then he will be one of the rabbaaniyyeen (learned men of religion who practise what they know and also preach to others. Cf. Aal ‘Imraan 3:79). The salaf were agreed that the scholar does not deserve to be called a rabbaani unless he knows the truth, acts in accordance with it and teaches it to others. Whoever teaches, acts in accordance with his knowledge and has knowledge, he will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Jihad against the Shaytaan is of two types:

1 – Warding off the doubts that he stirs up to undermine faith.

2 – Striving against him to ward off the corrupt desires that he provokes.

The first jihad is followed by certainty of faith, and the second is followed by patience. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And We made from among them (Children of Israel), leaders, giving guidance under Our Command, when they were patient and used to believe with certainty in Our Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.)”

[al-Sajdah 32:24]

Allaah tells us that leadership in religion is attained through patience and certainty of faith. Patience wards off desires and certainty wards off doubts.

Jihad against the kaafirs and hypocrites is of four kinds: with the heart, the tongue, one’s wealth and oneself. Jihad against the kaafirs is more along the lines of physical fighting whereas jihad against the hypocrites is more along the lines of using words and ideas.

Jihad against the leaders of oppression and innovation is of three kinds:

1 – Jihad with one's hand (i.e., physical jihad, fighting) if one is able. If that is not possible then it should be with one's tongue (i.e., by speaking out). If that is not possible then it should be with one's heart (i.e., by hating the evil and feeling that it is wrong).

These are the thirteen types of jihad, and “Whoever dies without having fought or having resolved to fight has died following one of the branches of hypocrisy.” (Narrated by Muslim, 1910).

Zaad al-Ma’aad, 3/9-11)

Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

“Jihad is of various kinds, with one’s self, one's wealth, by making du’aa’, by teaching and guiding, by helping to do good in any way. The greatest form of jihad is jihad with one’s self (i.e., going oneself and fighting), followed by jihad with one's wealth, jihad by speaking out and guiding others. Da’wah is also part of jihad. But going out oneself to fight in jihad is the highest form.

(Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn Baaz, 7/334, 335)

Secondly:

The idea of waging physical jihad against the kaafirs went through a number of stages, depending on the state in which the Muslim ummah was. Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

“The first thing which his Lord revealed to him was to read in the name of his Lord who had created. That was the beginning of his Prophethood, where Allaah commanded him to recite to himself but He did not yet command him to convey that. Then He revealed the words (interpretation of the meaning:

‘O you (Muhammad) enveloped in garments!

Arise and warn!’

[al-Muddaththir 74:1-2]

So he became a Prophet with the word ‘Iqra (Read!) and he became a Messenger with the words, ‘O you (Muhammad) enveloped in garments…’ Then Allaah commanded him to warn his closest kinsmen, then to warn his people, then to warn the Arabs around them, then to warn all the Arabs, then to warn all of mankind. He continued to call them for over ten years from the beginning of his Prophethood, without fighting or imposing the jizyah; he was commanded to refrain, to be patient and to be forbearing.

Then permission was given to him to migrate, and permission was given to him to fight.

Then he was commanded to fight those who fought him, and to refrain from fighting those who left him alone and did not fight him.

Then Allaah commanded him to fight the mushrikeen so that the religion would all be for Allaah.

After jihad was enjoined upon him, the kaafirs then fell into three categories: those with whom there was a truce or peace treaty; those with whom he was at war; and those who lived under the rule and protection of the Islamic state.”

(Zaad al-Ma’aad, 3/159)

Thirdly:

The ruling on physical jihad against the kaafirs is that this is an obligation on the community as a whole (fard kafaayah).

Ibn Qudaamah said:

“Jihaad is an obligation upon the community; if some people undertake it, the rest are relieved of the obligation.”

What fard kafaayah means is that if it is not undertaken by enough people, then all the people are guilty of sin, but if enough people undertakes it, the rest will be relieved of blame. Initially the command is addressed to all of them, as in the case of an individual obligation (fard ‘ayn), but then in the case of fard kafaayah the obligation is dropped if enough of the people undertake to do it, unlike the case with fard ‘ayn where the obligation is not dropped if someone else does it. Jihad is a fard kafaayah, according to the majority of scholars.”

(al-Mughni, 9/163)

Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz said:

“We have previously explained on more than one occasion that jihad is fard kafaayah, not fard ‘ayn. All Muslims are enjoined to support their brothers with their selves (i.e., physically, by joining them), or with money, weapons, da’wah and advice. If enough of them go out (to fight), the rest are freed from sin, but if none of them do that then all of them are sinners.

The Muslims in Saudi Arabia, Africa, North Africa and elsewhere are obliged to do their utmost, and if there is a jihad in one country, the surrounding countries should hasten to help them, the closest then the next closest. If one or two states, or three or more, manage to fulfil the obligation, then the rest are freed of responsibility. They deserve to be supported, and it is obligatory to help them against their enemies, because they are oppressed. Allaah has enjoined jihad upon all Muslims, and they must fight against the enemies of Allaah until their brothers are victorious. If they fail to do that then they are sinners, but if sufficient people undertake to do that, then the rest are absolved of sin.”

(Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn Baaz, 7/335)

Fourthly:

Physical jihad against the kaafirs becomes obligatory in four cases, which are:

1 – When the Muslim is present in a jihad situation.

2 – When the enemy has come and attacked a Muslim land

3 – When the ruler mobilizes the people, they must respond.

4 – When a person is needed and no one else can do the task except him.

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen said:

Jihad is obligatory and becomes fard ‘ayn if a person is present where fighting is going on. This is the first of the situations in which jihad becomes an individual obligation, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O you who believe! When you meet those who disbelieve, in a battlefield, never turn your backs to them.

And whoever turns his back to them on such a day — unless it be a stratagem of war, or to retreat to a troop (of his own), — he indeed has drawn upon himself wrath from Allaah. And his abode is Hell, and worst indeed is that destination!”

[al-Anfaal 8:16]

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said that running away on the day when the army is advancing is one of the sins that doom a person to Hell. He said: “Avoid the seven sins that doom a person to Hell…” among which he mentioned running away on the day when the army is advancing (agreed upon). But Allaah has made exceptions in two cases:

1- When it is a military manoeuvre, in the sense that he is leaving to bring reinforcements.

2- When he is going to join another group, when he has been told that there is a group of Muslims elsewhere who are about to be defeated, so he goes to join them in order to strengthen their numbers. This is subject to the condition that there is no risk to the group he is in; if there is a risk to the group that he is in, then it is not permissible for him to go to the other group. In this case (jihad) is an individual obligation upon him (fard ‘ayn) and it is not permissible for him to leave.

The second situation (in which jihad becomes an individual obligation) is when a city is besieged by the enemy. Then he has to fight in defence of the city, because when the city is besieged there is no alternative but to defend it, for if the enemy is going to prevent people from leaving the city or entering it, and prevent provisions from reaching it, and other things which are well known, then in this case the people of the city are obliged to fight in order to defend their city.

The third situation is when the leader tells the people to mobilize; the leader (imam) is the highest authority in the state, but he need not necessarily be the leader of all the Muslims, because there has been no leader of all the Muslims (khaleefah) for a long time. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Listen and obey, even if you are ruled by an Abyssinian slave.” So if a man becomes a leader, then his word is to be heeded and his commands are to obeyed.

(al-Sharh al-Mumti’, 8/10-12).

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uskupi

Junior Member
:salam2:
There is a Hadith in which a Sahabi was beaten by the Kuffar and was forced to say bad things about Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) :astag: When prophet Mohammad (PBUH) heard about this incident he called that Sahabi and asked him what is in his heart. The Sahabi replied that he had Emaan and love of Allah and his Prophet in his heart.
The Prophet (PBUH) then said to him that if Kuffar beat him again and force him to say bad thing about Prophet (PBUH) he could say those words.

Such is the mercy of Islam. Read the history during the time of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) and you will be amazed how tollarent Islam is.

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JIHAD means struggle. The best Jihad is the one in which you fight aginst your own "nafs", i.e. against your temptations etc. The Arabic word for war is "Qitaal" not Jihad.

assalam alaikum...so that we should say always the true definition of jihad ...the best jihad is to say the truth in the front of tyrant(rough) ruler... and than only after this definition of jihad you can choose wich jihad you wish as the best jihad
 
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