is *shirk* different from "acts of shirk"?

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

In Islam we are encouraged to be positive. Make intention. Good yields greater good.
 

TipuSultan

Banned
before Islam the Quersh also belive in Allah but they prayed to uzza and habbal as intermediaries so the same way people going to darga believe in Allah but when they ask at the dargah it becomes kufr.

see I also go to dargah but I dont ask anything there only read fatiah and come back.
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,


Call the fire department right now.

Am I clear that a man should marry a chaste woman. Help me out please..
If a woman is Jewish or Christian and chaste..what would that be. Or are you stating a woman who is a believer and thereby chaste is worth marrying.

And for the purpose of understanding are you equating virginity with chastity.

I am going to enjoy this discussion. This is going to be good.
 

TipuSultan

Banned
:salam2:

as I said in one post earlier that Hazrath Umar forbid marriages of muslims to jews and christains except in exceptional circumstances.
so muslims should marry muslims and today the exceptional circumstances are not there.

also I told about that jordan king and his marriage to some american lady and the dire consequences.

still I know people will disagree with me and take it personal and complain to their husband about me when they cannot argue with me.


for wallahi I have nothing against any member and I never take anything personal,even now and for me all r same-brothers and sisters
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
As salaam walaikum,

My purpose is not to argue. I want to learn. I am shocked that's all. If a woman is a Christian or Jew and she reverts is that OK? If she has fornicated and asked for forgiveness does that absolve her sins?

And let me throw one at the brothers here: a man starts a relationship with a female who is not a Muslim..they decide to marry...she reverts..all her previous sins are forgiven including fornication? At the onset of the relationship he is committing haraam?

Help me understand the definitions...before we get heated and irrational.
 

ilyas_eh

Used to be active here!
At the risk of starting another flame, I disagree that marrying a Christian or a Jewish woman is allowed in Islam. What the Quran has clearly allowed is marriage to chaste women (Al-Muhsanaat) of the People of the Book. Alas, chastity is very rare in today's world.

God has very specifically forbidden marriage to fornicating women,

"And the fornicating woman - none may marry her but a fornicating man or a polytheist, and that is forbidden to the believers." (24:3)

God has declared Chapter 24 mandated and its verses "manifestly clear", in its opening verse. This Chapter must therefore be taken very seriously just as God made it so serious.

Jazak Allahu khyir. thanks for correcting me brother. :)

so let me rephrase it, It is better to marry a pious and chaste muslimah rather than a chaste kitaabi (who is practicing her belief). likewise it is better to prefer a pious muslim/muslimah who is upon sunnah of the rasool Allah (pbuh) rather than a person with the aforementioned beliefs and practices.

did i get it correct this time??? *nail biting*. Kindly correct me if i am wrong.

Help me understand the definitions...before we get heated and irrational.

hahaha.. true thing. :) u made me smile. jazak Allahu khyir

wa salaam
 

IHearIslam

make dua 4 ma finals
Assalaamu alaikum,

I am wondering how we got to marriage :confused: when the discussion was on Shirk?? Just thinking about that....no offence to anyone :)
 
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