Is this a Sahih Hadith?

Tabassum07

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salaam,

Can someone tell me if this is authentic? I came upon this for the first time on some website:

When Mustawrid al-Qurashi was sitting with 'Amr ibn al-'As, he said, "I heard the Prophet say, 'The Hour will come when the Romans will be in the majority.' 'Amr asked him, "What are you saying?" He said, "I am repeating that which I heard from the Prophet." 'Amr said, "If you say this, it is true, because they have four good characteristics: they are the most able to cope with tribulation, the quickest to recover after disaster and to return to the fight after disaster, and are the best as far as treating the poor, weak and orphans is concerned. They have a fifth characteristic which is very good; they do not allow themselves to be oppressed by their kings."
 

Salaffi

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False Hadith

salaam,

Can someone tell me if this is authentic? I came upon this for the first time on some website:

salam alaikom dear brother,

I think that this hadith has no origine in books of Hadith, so it is not part of our prophet heritage of sounat.

thank U for your question,

Salam alaikom,
 

Al-Kashmiri

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salam alaikom dear brother,

I think that this hadith has no origine in books of Hadith, so it is not part of our prophet heritage of sounat.

thank U for your question,

Salam alaikom,

As-salaamu `alaykum

Welcome to the site. Tabassum is a sister. Can you please provide evidence that it is not in fact a hadeeth? If I'm correct, Ibn Katheer mentions it in Al-Bidaayah wan-Nihaayah. I have definitely seen at least two of the people of knowledge cite this hadeeth.
 

Muslim_Gurl

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salaam,

Can someone tell me if this is authentic? I came upon this for the first time on some website:

Walaykumu salaam

Yes it is :)

Mustaurid al-Qurashi reported: I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour would come (when) the Romans would form a majority amongst people. 'Amr said to him (Mustaurid Qurashi): See what you are saying? He said: I say what I heard from Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). Thereupon he said: If you say that, it is a fact for they have four qualities. They have the patience to undergo a trial and immediately restore themselves to sanity after trouble and attack again after flight. They (have the quality) of being good to the destitute and the orphans, to the weak and, fifthly, the good quality in them is that they put resistance against the oppression of kings.

Muslim::Book 41:Hadith 6925

Salaam
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Salaffi

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salam alaikom dear brother,

I think that this hadith has no origine in books of Hadith, so it is not part of our prophet heritage of sounat.

thank U for your question,

Salam alaikom,
Salam alaikom,

I apologise for this mistake!

It is a true (marfue) hadith cited in many references (Ahmed 17662; Muslim 5163 + 5164; Tabarany 17157).

Barkaka allahu fikom,
 
salaam,

Can someone tell me if this is authentic? I came upon this for the first time on some website:


It has been classified in Musnad Ahmed bin Hanbal, ra (here is the Arabic):

حدثنا عبد الله حدثني أبي ثنا علي بن عياش ثنا ليث بن سعد ثنا موسى بن علي عن أبيه عن المستورد الفهري انه قال لعمرو بن العاص : تقوم الساعة والروم أكثر الناس فقال له عمرو بن العاص أبصر ما تقول قال أقول لك ما سمعت من رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم فقال عمرو بن العاص ان تكن قلت ذاك ان فيهم لخصالا أربعا انهم لأسرع الناس كرة بعد فرة وانهم لخير الناس لمسكين وفقير وضعيف وانهم لأحلم الناس عند فتنة والرابعة حسنة جميلة وانهم لأمنع الناس من ظلم الملوك
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according to Hanbal, it is saheeh.

jazakAllahu khaira, because I never looked this hadith up, for authenticity.

That was a rough translation in English.


:wasalam:
 

Abu Sarah

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Wa Alaykum Assalam Dear All

yeah brother as brother muslimda3ee Explain masha`Allaah


هذا الحديث ذُكر في صحيح مسلم كتاب الفتن وأشراط الساعة في باب تقوم الساعة والروم أكثر الناس


ونصه كالتالي

حدثنا عبدالملك بن شعيب بن الليث‏.‏ حدثني عبدالله بن وهب‏.‏ أخبرني الليث بن سعد‏.‏ حدثني موسى بن علي عن أبيه، قال‏:‏ قال المستورد القرشي، عند عمرو بن العاص‏:‏

سمعت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يقول ‏"‏تقوم الساعة والروم أكثر الناس‏"‏‏.‏ فقال له عمرو‏:‏ أبصر ما تقول‏.‏ قال‏:‏ أقول ما سمعت من رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم‏.‏ قال‏:‏ لئن قلت ذلك، إن فيهم لخصالا أربعا‏:‏ إنهم لأحلم الناس عند فتنة‏.‏ وأسرعهم إفاقة بعد مصيبة‏.‏ وأوشكهم كرة بعد فرة‏.‏ وخيرهم لمسكين ويتيم وضعيف‏.‏ وخامسة حسنة وجميلة‏:‏ وأمنعهم من ظلم الملوك‏.‏

‏‏(‏أن المستورد القرشي‏)‏ هذا الحديث مما استدركه الدارقطني على مسلم‏.‏ وقال‏:‏ عبدالكريم لم يدرك المستورد‏.‏ فالحديث مرسل‏.‏ قلت‏:‏ لا استدراك على مسلم في هذا‏.‏ لأنه ذكر الحديث بحروفه في الطريق الأول من رواية علي بن رباح عن أبيه عن المستورد، متصلا‏.‏ وإنما ذكر الثاني متابعة‏.‏ وقد سبق أنه يحتمل في المتابعة ما لا يحتمل في الأصول‏.‏ وقد سبق أيضا أن مذهب الشافعي والمحققين أن الحديث المرسل، إذا روي من جهة أخرى متصلا، احتج به وكان صحيحا‏]‏‏.‏



Sahih Muslim, 2889The Book Pertaining to the Turmoil and Portents of the Last Hour (Kitab Al-Fitan wa Ashrat As-Sa`ah)

Chapter of THE LAST HOUR WOULD COME WHEN THE ROMANS WOULD HAVE THE MAXIMUM POPULATION


Al-Mustawrid al-Qurashi said to ‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas: “I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: ‘The Hour will begin when the Romans are the greatest people in number.’” ‘Amr said, “Watch what you say!” He said, “I am saying what I heard from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).” He said, “If you say that, it is a fact, for they have four qualities. They are the most patient of people at times of tribulation; they recover quickly from calamity; they are quick to recover and attack again after defeat; and they are good to the poor, orphans and the weak. And a fifth good quality that they have is that they resist the oppression of kings.” Narrated by Muslim, 2889. .
 
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