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Almeftah

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السلام عليكم ورحمة الله

I'm not much of a politician, but from what i saw and heard, i think Baraks main issue is to make a better life for americans in a creative way, unlike mccain who mostly thinks about war and how to control other countries, I guess..

Originally Posted by podolski11
salam alaykum

i cant believe muslims actuallyy give a *removed* about kaffir debates that have their main aim to remove us from the face of the earth.........id rather watch teletubbies cause its much more informational and more attractive........

For the type of leaders we have now adays we need to keep track of all other non-muslim countries, and hope for things to be for our good, since we have muslims all over the world, because the polocy of each country will effect them as well as non-muslims.

Many muslims faced a great deal of hardship or got killed unjustly, and not 1 single leader reacted in an effective way to stop it from happening again.
 

al-fajr

...ism..schism
Staff member
LOL! Me, I like the Berenstain Bears :)

haha :D

My younger bro sometimes ends up sitting in front of that ..till I come and threaten to tell all his freinds.

I disagree with you though, politics used to give me a buzz, but to be honest with you I dont even bother with newspapers anymore, I consider it 100% waste of my time, especially since the best non-muslim journalist retired not so long ago now.

I dont know about withdrawing from 'public life' - that wouldnt be good I agree, we should make our presence obvious, but voting makes not the jolt of difference, the lesser of two evils is still evil - bottom line, you voted for evil!

Also, having cast my vote, I will have no control over the mans next move as soon as he takes power, imagine he bombs Pakistan and kills my entire family or something? What would I be able to do to keep myself sane knowing I gave him even a shred of support?

I have no faith in political leadership, but I have 100% faith in the hadeeth where it says if the entire world gathered up to harm a muslim it couldnt reach him unless Allaah hadnt decreed it already - same for any good that may come our way, so why do I need to vote for one potential war criminal over another? to change/effect what exactly?

aaanyway ..I doubt any of these politicians watches Berenstein Bears, if they did we may have seen some improvement in their moral standards.
 
I disagree with you though, politics used to give me a buzz, but to be honest with you I dont even bother with newspapers anymore, I consider it 100% waste of my time, especially since the best non-muslim journalist retired not so long ago now.

Salaam,

I wouldn't say it's 100% waste, rather we still have a duty to keep ourselves informed about our surroundings. I'd like to know people like Ron Paul is anti-war and McCain is hardcore pro-war. At least I know what to prepare myself for.

but voting makes not the jolt of difference, the lesser of two evils is still evil - bottom line, you voted for evil!

I agree and in nuance it's supporting a man made system - that laws changes according to the ruling parties desires. The only righteous law is that from Allah swt.
 

Abdul Hasib

Student of Knowledge
haha :D

My younger bro sometimes ends up sitting in front of that ..till I come and threaten to tell all his freinds.

I disagree with you though, politics used to give me a buzz, but to be honest with you I dont even bother with newspapers anymore, I consider it 100% waste of my time, especially since the best non-muslim journalist retired not so long ago now.

I dont know about withdrawing from 'public life' - that wouldnt be good I agree, we should make our presence obvious, but voting makes not the jolt of difference, the lesser of two evils is still evil - bottom line, you voted for evil!

Also, having cast my vote, I will have no control over the mans next move as soon as he takes power, imagine he bombs Pakistan and kills my entire family or something? What would I be able to do to keep myself sane knowing I gave him even a shred of support?

I have no faith in political leadership, but I have 100% faith in the hadeeth where it says if the entire world gathered up to harm a muslim it couldnt reach him unless Allaah hadnt decreed it already - same for any good that may come our way, so why do I need to vote for one potential war criminal over another? to change/effect what exactly?

aaanyway ..I doubt any of these politicians watches Berenstein Bears, if they did we may have seen some improvement in their moral standards.
LoL Isra Baji, I LOVED watching that when I wa sin the UK, LoL. My little cousin (she was six, she's now eigh) would love watching that, until it stops at like eight o'clock or something. I liked those cartoons.:D When I was in the UK I woukd just sit on the sofa and watch Sonic on Something-PoP (<that;s the name, and no, it's not "something PoP," I mean it's "simething" but I don't know what it is) unti I it's like one or two hours later and I just go to sleep, LoL.

The funny things about my baby cousin is that she sounds SO funny because of her "British Ok-Scent," :lol:

But anyway, it was on Sky TV. That's wikced hot, in the UK, you can get that Virgin Broadband for only 10 pounds a month! That's like 20 dollars in the U.S, LoL. But the bad thing is that pizza costs like 7.00-15.00 pounds, and that's worth 14.00-30.00 dollars in the U.S! (And not to also mention that it means that if a British guy eats pizza in the U.S, then he's saving half his money) LoL :lol:
 
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