Jihad or terrorism?

a_muslimah86

Hubbi Li Rabbi
Staff member
:salam2:

To "war-lords"..many known by the title "mr. president"...

the blood of 51,000 Muslims is like a jug of water spilled on a floor...

The blood of Iraqis and Palestinians..and other Muslims in Afghanistan and Chechnya...has become *CHEAP* if not *WORTHLESS*...to OTHER Arabs and Muslims...

So why would it be a surprise that armies invade our lands and set bases on them to protect themselves...rape our women and escape from being punished...step on the heads of our men...walk into our masjids with their weapons and boots...and cause fitnah amongst nations so they may reap the economical and political benefits???

The blame...ALL OF THE BLAME...falls upon the shoulders of our so called...presidents...kings...and shaikhs...preoccupied with gathering enlargen the figures of their foreign bank accounts...and upon the masses who have become sadistically addicted to being weak and oppressed...and only *WHISPER* their complaints!!!...that is...IF they DARE to do THAT!!!

May Allah Help Us!!!

:wasalam:
 

palestine

Servant of Allah
:salam2:

To "war-lords"..many known by the title "mr. president"...

the blood of 51,000 Muslims is like a jug of water spilled on a floor...

The blood of Iraqis and Palestinians..and other Muslims in Afghanistan and Chechnya...has become *CHEAP* if not *WORTHLESS*...to OTHER Arabs and Muslims...

So why would it be a surprise that armies invade our lands and set bases on them to protect themselves...rape our women and escape from being punished...step on the heads of our men...walk into our masjids with their weapons and boots...and cause fitnah amongst nations so they may reap the economical and political benefits???

The blame...ALL OF THE BLAME...falls upon the shoulders of our so called...presidents...kings...and shaikhs...preoccupied with gathering enlargen the figures of their foreign bank accounts...and upon the masses who have become sadistically addicted to being weak and oppressed...and only *WHISPER* their complaints!!!...that is...IF they DARE to do THAT!!!

May Allah Help Us!!!

:wasalam:


I agree 100% ukhti. this is the case, and until we change our condition Allah will not help us do so. so we have to step up first. sadly, even those whom are seen as the best of alims are not speaking out against this, they're afraid. afterall they're humans. subhanaAllah.:salam2:
 

Tru3m0sl3m

Brother in ISLAM
I agree 100% ukhti. this is the case, and until we change our condition Allah will not help us do so. so we have to step up first. sadly, even those whom are seen as the best of alims are not speaking out against this, they're afraid. afterall they're humans. subhanaAllah.:salam2:

Assalamu'alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh
We are so good at playing the blame games SubhanAllah! You want to do something? Then go out and educate people about Islam! Tell the people of innovators about Tauhid, call people to authentic Islam and give dawaah to non muslims inshort .. you've to play your part in Islamic Revival and start it from your home.. Then after that if the rulers and the presidents and the sheikhas stopping you BLAME THEM!

I am not trying defend the kuffars attack on muslims or some "muslims" who are helping the destruction of ummah. But insteading of whining all the time(gosh there are so many hate ulama threads out here) DO SOMETHING for Islam.
:salam2:
 

palestine

Servant of Allah
Assalamu'alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh
We are so good at playing the blame games SubhanAllah! You want to do something? Then go out and educate people about Islam! Tell the people of innovators about Tauhid, call people to authentic Islam and give dawaah to non muslims inshort .. you've to play your part in Islamic Revival and start it from your home.. Then after that if the rulers and the presidents and the sheikhas stopping you BLAME THEM!

I am not trying defend the kuffars attack on muslims or some "muslims" who are helping the destruction of ummah. But insteading of whining all the time(gosh there are so many hate ulama threads out here) DO SOMETHING for Islam.
:salam2:

Asalamu alaykum wrwb. JazakaAllahu khayran for your thoughts. however just to clear anything that you might of have misunderstood...i don't HATE the ulama. and that was not my intention either. i'm blaming myself to begin with, but ALL the muslims are to blame because we've not done enough. so please don't get me wrong. i would be a munafiq for insulting or accusing the alims. and this isn't a hate thread against the ulama. the ulama are my role models and because of how much i love them, people purposely pick on me and talk badly of them in my presence. This was just a reminder that even some of our scholars are afraid to speak out, and those who have ended up in jail or killed. JazakaAllahu khayran and asalamu alaykum wrwb. :salam2:
 

nyerekareem

abdur-rahman
:salam2:

i will say again and again, that until we all stand united together without being concerned about race, color, tribe, ethnicity etc. we will not be able to help our struggling muslim brothers and sisters around the world. he have to let go of those things that do not benefit us muslims.
:wasalam:
 

a_muslimah86

Hubbi Li Rabbi
Staff member
Assalamu'alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh
We are so good at playing the blame games SubhanAllah! You want to do something? Then go out and educate people about Islam! Tell the people of innovators about Tauhid, call people to authentic Islam and give dawaah to non muslims inshort .. you've to play your part in Islamic Revival and start it from your home.. Then after that if the rulers and the presidents and the sheikhas stopping you BLAME THEM!

I am not trying defend the kuffars attack on muslims or some "muslims" who are helping the destruction of ummah. But insteading of whining all the time(gosh there are so many hate ulama threads out here) DO SOMETHING for Islam.
:salam2:

Brother...

Seek refuge with Allah from anger and attitude...and then read posts carefully along with the *theme* of the post altogether...sister palestine already explained herself so I won't elaborate on her words further...

but in case you saw the word *shaikhs* which *I* typed by the way not her!!!...you need to understand something...I meant ROYAL SHAIKHS!!! (i.e. shaikhs of Kuwait and UAE!!!)...*NOT* ULAMA'A SHAIKH'S!!!

In Arabic there are THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SHAIKHS...one that is royal (like I stated)..one that is a head of a tribe..and one that is a'alim..

so bear in mind this lingual matter please!!!

Instead of lashing out...try to understand what the other person is trying to state perspective wise...even if that means asking them a couple of questions to make sure you're understanding things correctly before you begin stating your own perspective...

Also...when we voice our observations about the state of the Ummah...we *are* doing something for it and for Islam...we are *bringing attention* to it!!!...how is that whining???...and when one of us does something for his/her deen they don't need to go around glorifying it verbally and talking about it non-stop and let the whole world know..or worst yet..remain silent on everything that passes them by..because they haven't "shown" any action towards "fixing the problems"...and I'm pretty sure you have read a thing or two about pride and riya'a...and one can get into them through one little matter..and a bunch of other mess which I pray no muslim goes through!!!...

and you need to remember as well that the prophet (pbuh) has allowed us three forms of action to change what we witness and requires our objection...one through the hand...one through the tongue..and the third through the heart..and though the last is the *weakest* form..it is *still* acceptable because *at least* you're *objecting* to it...

I am sure that many of us here combine the first two and do the best they can..but their sincerity of making their action for Allah (swt)..and their fear of pride and love for humbleness prevents them from beginning to *even* think of stating or letting anybody know ANY OF IT!!!...

So calm down please..and don't *toss-out* suggestions or advice..that is not the way to motivate at all and/or warn at all...

Sobhanallah...many times we talk to each other like we are enemies...it makes me ache with hurt...and it boils the very blood within me...because it makes our *real* enemies smile big at our mistreatment of each other no matter how trivial it might seem to some of us!!!

and please brother remember what Allah (swt) had said to our Beloved Prophet (pbuh) in Chapter three of the Qura'an (Al-Imran) verse 159 about his character and manners when advicing others whether they were Muslims or Non-Muslims:

*It is part of the Mercy of Allah that thou dost deal gently with them Wert thou severe or harsh-hearted, they would have broken away from about thee: so pass over (Their faults), and ask for ((Allah)'s) forgiveness for them; and consult them in affairs (of moment).*

And I always say...it is beautiful that we possess the ability and the right to voice our opinions...but we don't need to make it grotesque by being uncareful with choosing our words and totally unminding of our tone and attitude when uttering them!!!

May Allah guide us all to what pleases Him...

:wasalam:


 

a_muslimah86

Hubbi Li Rabbi
Staff member
:salam2:

i will say again and again, that until we all stand united together without being concerned about race, color, tribe, ethnicity etc. we will not be able to help our struggling muslim brothers and sisters around the world. he have to let go of those things that do not benefit us muslims.
:wasalam:


Sobhanallah brother...

I was discussing the state of the Ummah (from a political aspect) with a friend of mine about a week ago...and she said the same thing...she said we need to unite...so the brothers and sisters amongst who are willing to take a stand influence those too scared to take one...sort of like holding someone's hand to get them through a shaky bridge...

I would love to witness the day when this happens!!!

:wasalam:


 

AlQurtubi

Banned
I have seen some very nice posts in this thread. I would just like to add that with our current attitude , i dont see ummah uniting untill the arrival of Mehdi. Its just my opinion which may be wrong.

Since charity begins at home, we need to educate our family first about islam. They are the ones who give most resistance when one tries to act on islam like they say dont put beard on in this young age, how willl u progress? how will u get married? blah blah.

I am not saying that we just needs to remain focus on our parents. We should do what ever we can, to get our hand in Muslim renaissance

"she said we need to unite...so the brothers and sisters amongst who are willing to take a stand influence those too scared to take one...sort of like holding someone's hand to get them through a shaky bridge..."

Its true. We are all looking towards each other for help. This is happening because we have become so weak and fear enemy all the time. We dont support each other and turn our backs to them.

Lets put our acts together and strive!!!
 

Tru3m0sl3m

Brother in ISLAM
Brother...

Seek refuge with Allah from anger and attitude...and then read posts carefully along with the *theme* of the post altogether...sister palestine already explained herself so I won't elaborate on her words further...

but in case you saw the word *shaikhs* which *I* typed by the way not her!!!...you need to understand something...I meant ROYAL SHAIKHS!!! (i.e. shaikhs of Kuwait and UAE!!!)...*NOT* ULAMA'A SHAIKH'S!!!

In Arabic there are THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SHAIKHS...one that is royal (like I stated)..one that is a head of a tribe..and one that is a'alim..

so bear in mind this lingual matter please!!!

Instead of lashing out...try to understand what the other person is trying to state perspective wise...even if that means asking them a couple of questions to make sure you're understanding things correctly before you begin stating your own perspective...

Also...when we voice our observations about the state of the Ummah...we *are* doing something for it and for Islam...we are *bringing attention* to it!!!...how is that whining???...and when one of us does something for his/her deen they don't need to go around glorifying it verbally and talking about it non-stop and let the whole world know..or worst yet..remain silent on everything that passes them by..because they haven't "shown" any action towards "fixing the problems"...and I'm pretty sure you have read a thing or two about pride and riya'a...and one can get into them through one little matter..and a bunch of other mess which I pray no muslim goes through!!!...

and you need to remember as well that the prophet (pbuh) has allowed us three forms of action to change what we witness and requires our objection...one through the hand...one through the tongue..and the third through the heart..and though the last is the *weakest* form..it is *still* acceptable because *at least* you're *objecting* to it...

I am sure that many of us here combine the first two and do the best they can..but their sincerity of making their action for Allah (swt)..and their fear of pride and love for humbleness prevents them from beginning to *even* think of stating or letting anybody know ANY OF IT!!!...

So calm down please..and don't *toss-out* suggestions or advice..that is not the way to motivate at all and/or warn at all...

Sobhanallah...many times we talk to each other like we are enemies...it makes me ache with hurt...and it boils the very blood within me...because it makes our *real* enemies smile big at our mistreatment of each other no matter how trivial it might seem to some of us!!!

and please brother remember what Allah (swt) had said to our Beloved Prophet (pbuh) in Chapter three of the Qura'an (Al-Imran) verse 159 about his character and manners when advicing others whether they were Muslims or Non-Muslims:

*It is part of the Mercy of Allah that thou dost deal gently with them Wert thou severe or harsh-hearted, they would have broken away from about thee: so pass over (Their faults), and ask for ((Allah)'s) forgiveness for them; and consult them in affairs (of moment).*

And I always say...it is beautiful that we possess the ability and the right to voice our opinions...but we don't need to make it grotesque by being uncareful with choosing our words and totally unminding of our tone and attitude when uttering them!!!

May Allah guide us all to what pleases Him...

:wasalam:



Assalamu 'alaykum sister i apologize for the way i painted my response.. And i forgot about the "shaikhs", i recently read that some arab sheikh has 30% share in F1 Mercedes Mclaren and that is huge amount of investment for just the racing world..

Jazakallahu khairn for the Qur'anic verses.. ... actually i wasn't trying to be harsh .. Yeah i misunderstood the whole theme of the thread .. :salam2:
 

a_muslimah86

Hubbi Li Rabbi
Staff member
Assalamu 'alaykum sister i apologize for the way i painted my response.. And i forgot about the "shaikhs", i recently read that some arab sheikh has 30% share in F1 Mercedes Mclaren and that is huge amount of investment for just the racing world..

Jazakallahu khairn for the Qur'anic verses.. ... actually i wasn't trying to be harsh .. Yeah i misunderstood the whole theme of the thread .. :salam2:

Brother...we are a family...even though we are 1.5 billion (quite OVERSIZED!)...but still...we are a family...and as sisters and brothers in it..we are to look out for each other and point each other towards what is right so we all be happy and upright :)...and I am glad you sensed the sincerity in what I said...alhamduliallah for that

and about "shaikhs" and "arab presidents"...due to the u.s. recession...they lost 400 Billion dollars...yes that's right...it's *400* BILLION DOLLARS!!!

mind you...that's not ALL the wealth...

imagine how much MORE money they have!!!...

and imagine if they had taken this 400 billion dollars and given it as zakat to the needy muslims around the world..what would have happened...

Upon pondering...I am so close to swearing that there will not be one SINGLE POOR MUSLIM left in the world!!!

May Allah help us and guide us to what he pleases...we need both so bad at these times!!!

:wasalam:
 
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