L.A.P.D. to build date on Muslims in area

Southrn_Muslimah

bnqɯnɥ 'ɥɐq
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I meant to say DATA instead of DATE.
This is a two page article but I will just copy and paste the first and y'all can click the link for the 2nd page :D

By Richard Winton, Jean-Paul Renaud and Paul Pringle, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
November 9, 2007
An extensive mapping program launched by the LAPD's anti-terrorism bureau to identify Muslim enclaves across the city sparked outrage Thursday from some Islamic groups and civil libertarians, who denounced the effort as an exercise in racial and religious profiling.

Los Angeles Police Department Deputy Chief Michael P. Downing, who heads the bureau, defended the undertaking as a way to help Muslim communities avoid the influence of those who would radicalize Islamic residents and advocate "violent, ideologically-based extremism."

"We are seeking to identify at-risk communities," Downing said in an interview Thursday evening. "We are looking for communities and enclaves based on risk factors that are likely to become isolated. . . . We want to know where the Pakistanis, Iranians and Chechens are so we can reach out to those communities."

Downing added that the Muslim Public Affairs Council has embraced the vaguely defined program "in concept." The group's executive director, Salam Al-Marayati, said Thursday that it wanted to know more about the plan and had a meeting set with the LAPD next week.

"We will work with the LAPD and give them input, while at the same time making sure that people's civil liberties are protected," said Al-Marayati, who commended Downing for being "very forthright in his engagement with the Muslim community."

Others condemned the project, however.

"We certainly reject this idea completely," said Shakeel Syed, executive director of the Islamic Shura Council of Southern California. "This stems basically from this presumption that there is homogenized Muslim terrorism that exists among us."

Syed said he is a member of Police Chief William J. Bratton's forum of religious advisors, but had not been told of the community mapping program. "This came as a jolt to me," Syed said.

Hussam Ayloush, who leads the Los Angeles chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said the mapping "basically turns the LAPD officers into religious political analysts, while their role is to fight crime and enforce the laws."

During Oct. 30 testimony before Congress, Downing described the program broadly as an attempt to "mitigate radicalization." At that time, he said law enforcement agencies nationwide faced "a vicious, amorphous and unfamiliar adversary on our land."

Downing and other law enforcement officials said police agencies around the world are dealing with radical Muslim groups that are isolated from the larger community, making potential breeding groups for terrorism. He cited terror cells in Europe as well as the case of some Muslim extremists in New Jersey arrested in May for allegedly planning to bomb Ft. Dix.

"We want to map the locations of these closed, vulnerable communities, and in partnership with these communities . . . help [weave] these enclaves into the fabric of the larger society," he said in his testimony.

"To do this, we need to go into the community and get to know peoples' names," he said. "We need to walk into homes, neighborhoods, mosques and businesses."

To assemble the mapping data, Downing said in an interview Thursday, the LAPD intends to enlist USC's Center for Risk and Economic Analysis of Terrorism Events, which was founded four years ago with $12 million in federal funds.

In 2003, university officials said the center would focus on threats to power plants, telecommunications and transportation systems.

It recently was tapped to strengthen security at Los Angeles International Airport.

Downing said the effort would not involve spying on neighborhoods. He said it would identify groups, not individuals.

"This has nothing to do with intelligence," he said, comparing it to market research.

But in his congressional testimony, Downing said the LAPD hoped to identify communities that "may be susceptible to violent, ideologically-based extremism and then use a full-spectrum approach guided by an intelligence-led strategy."

Downing told lawmakers the program would "take a deeper look at the history, demographics, language, culture, ethnic breakdown, socioeconomic status and social interactions."

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-lapd9nov09,0,1646403.story?coll=la-home-center
 
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Los Angeles Police Department Deputy Chief Michael P. Downing, who heads the bureau, defended the undertaking as a way to help Muslim communities avoid the influence of those who would radicalize Islamic residents and advocate "violent, ideologically-based extremism."

"We are seeking to identify at-risk communities," Downing said in an interview Thursday evening. "We are looking for communities and enclaves based on risk factors that are likely to become isolated. . . . We want to know where the Pakistanis, Iranians and Chechens are so we can reach out to those communities."

Asalaamalikum,

Are they kidding me? "Help" Muslims? Says who?

"At risk communities" - What is at risk? Our freedom to practice Islam? What criteria are they using to assess risk? It must be their own ignorance and biases. Another case of violation of the First Amendment:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

Go to Muslim neighborhoods and you'll them the most peaceful and most clean. Go help stop the alcoholics in this country, go help abortion, go help stop gun violence. Go help the numerous Catholic priests that keep raping & molesting young boys and girls - that's what's really at risk. The only way they can "help" is by helping themselves! The only "risk" I see is themselves, what will they say in front of Allah swt? That's the biggest risk in life.

wasalaam
 

nyerekareem

abdur-rahman
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when i think of the so-called islamic threat here in america, i begin to wonder why isn't there a war on murder? a war on rape? a war on domestic violence etc. why weren't young white men profiled as being terrorists after the oklahoma city bombing? why weren't the two white kids from the columbine shooting called terrorists? why aren't members of the ku klux klan arrested for being terrorists? they're still an active group with thousands of followers. they have been known to repeatedly strike terror in the hearts of american blacks throughout history. all of these groups have brought terror to people.

i'm so sick and tired of the fearmongering going on in the country. every year since 9/11 they raise the alerts that there may be a potential terrorist attack in a shopping mall etc. but as crazy as this country has become, anybody without any affiliation can go in a mall and harm people. why say islamic extremists? they're using a terror threat to keep the profiling of muslims going strong and to help justify this unjust war.

:wasalam:
 

arabiantxn

Junior Member
L.A is totally jacked up i think we should remind the chief that he needs to tackle the real problems rather then drawing maps of ethnic and religious minorities.

he is too sisi to tackle 18st,bloods and the ms13
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Salaam,

We are a threat simply becasue we make them question thier own values. We are a threat because instead of going away..more people revert to Islam. They can place us in ghettos ( is that not really what they are saying by classifiying our neighborhoods as at risk.) They can do whatever they feel they need to do but we will continue to be Muslims.
We can not intergrate. We may work with them and help them. We may speak to them but we are Muslims and need eachother.
Things really haven't changed they are more overt.
 

dna1987

Muslim Guy
The LAPD will only be catching up to the CIA - they've probably been keeping tabs on everyone since even before 9/11. :wasalam:
 
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