Leading in prayer

[slaveofAllah88]

:salam2:

if there is a small community of muslims (mostly being students) who should be leading the prayer?

they usually pick the person who has a sunnah beard, the eldest and most respected person in the mosque prefer this one particular person to lead and also do the Jummah Khutba.

Should the person say no or he continue to lead the salaat?

he knows he is not extremely knowledgeable in Quran, and is not sure of other people how knowledgable they are.

The person feels happy about leading the prayer but fears Allah (swt) that he is a sinful person and someone else is probably more worthy but they all want him to do khutba and make jama'ah.
And it is ok to read short surah's since he is nervous and fears that he might forget if he try to read something big?

What should he do? and wat are the etiquette of doing jummah if someone can share?

JazakAllah khair

 

[stiks]

Asalaamualaykum,

The person who has most knowledge of Qur'an and the religion should lead the prayer regardless of age.

 

[slaveofAllah88]

Asalaamualaykum,

The person who has most knowledge of Qur'an and the religion should lead the prayer regardless of age.

:salam2:
I know that but how do you judge someone's knowledge and i dont want to say but someone mentioned that there are brothers who used to do jamaat but they do some other bad stuff too :astag: Allah (swt) knows best, so people didn't feel right praying after them ..... so thats why they dont lead.

is it ok for the community to pick the leader?

 

[stiks]

I'm assuming amongst the candidates presented for this leadership there's a person who has more knowledge than the others, or are they all the same level?

 

[slaveofAllah88]

I'm assuming amongst the candidates presented for this leadership there's a person who has more knowledge than the others, or are they all the same level?

:salam2:

i think everyone of the same level, no one steps up or says they want to do jamaat so the person who is the eldest among us and is the most knowledgable in our eyes picks this specific person

 

[stiks]

Thats sorted then, hamdulillah.

 

[slaveofAllah88]

Thats sorted then, hamdulillah.

well, is it ok for that person to decide or we should insist again and agian for him to do the jama'at?

 

[Seeking Allah's Mercy]

:salam2:wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu.

i read a couple of fatwas on this topic each in some way related to your situation.here are lines that are concerned somewhat to the situation.

:salam2:

if there is a small community of muslims (mostly being students) who should be leading the prayer?

the hadiths answers it like this:

“If there are three people, let one of them lead the others in prayer, and the one who has the most right to lead them is the one who knows more Qur’aan.” (Narrated by Muslim, no. 1077).

The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

“The people should be led in prayer by the one who has most knowledge of the Qur’aan and has been reciting it for longer. If they are equal in their knowledge and reading of the Qur’aan, then they should be led by the one who made hijrah first. If they are equal with regard to hijrah, then they should be led by the one who is older…”

(Narrated by Muslim, 1079).

“Verily, the most honourable of you with Allaah is that (believer) who has al-Taqwaa (is one of the pious)…” [al-Hujuraat 49:13]. If they are equal in all regards, then they should draw lots, if there is a dispute.

source:http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/1875/leading the prayers

they usually pick the person who has a sunnah beard, the eldest and most respected person in the mosque prefer this one particular person to lead and also do the Jummah Khutba.
Should the person say no or he continue to lead the salaat?

he knows he is not extremely knowledgeable in Quran, and is not sure of other people how knowledgable they are.

Some of the scholars said, commenting on the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “Come forward and follow me (in the prayer), and let those who are behind you follow you, for people will keep
moving to the back until Allaah puts them back (away from His mercy or Paradise)” (narrated by Muslim, 438), that what is meant is the one who keeps away from the first row and the first takbeer.

source:http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/101766/leading the prayers

The person feels happy about leading the prayer but fears Allah (swt) that he is a sinful person and someone else is probably more worthy but they all want him to do khutba and make jama'ah.
And it is ok to read short surah's since he is nervous and fears that he might forget if he try to read something big?

this is from a fatwa where a man comes to prayers late coz he's afraid he'll be chosen as imaam:


......and that the fear which is making you do that is something that comes from the shaytaan, who wants to deprive you of reward and virtue.

We understand that the position of imam is a position that may make one nervous, but that should not make you fall short with regard to it. If you go to the mosque and you are the most qualified to lead the people in prayer, then you should go forward and not hold back, because the sin will be on you if the people appoint someone who does not recite al-Faatihah properly or does not do all the pillars or essential parts of the prayer properly.

We assure you that the fear which you feel when leading the prayer is a temporary fear which will soon go away when you get used to leading the prayers. You have to put up with the hardship at the beginning, then Allaah will open the door to goodness for you as a reward for your patience and forbearance.

You can seek help to reduce the fear that you feel, by trying to do the following things:

1 – Review thoroughly the verses that you want to recite in prayer, because this will make you more confident and that will dispel the fear and nervousness.

2 – Get used to reciting the prayers in a loud voice at home, by praying qiyaam and the naafil prayers at night. This will get you used to acting as an imam and reciting out loud.

3 – Lead people in praying the prayers in which Qur’aan is recited silently, because getting used to standing in the imam’s place will reduce the fear of standing before the people in the prayers in which Qur’aan is recited out loud.

4 – Try to convince yourself that this matter is easy, and how some of the children of the Sahaabah used to lead the people in their local mosques, and all that is required is a simple recitation, proper focus, peace of mind and submission before Allaah the Lord of the Worlds.

5 – Do not forget to ask Allaah to help you to do good, and to make it easy to do righteous deeds.

We ask Allaah to help us and you and to grant us the victory of attaining eternal bliss.

source:http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/101766/leading the prayers

What should he do?

he should lead the prayers,since he cannot judge ppl for their knowlegde.and he can ask the ppl behind him if they have a problem with him leading the prayers because:

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

If they dislike this imam for a reason that has to do with his religious commitment, such as lying, wrongdoing, ignorance, bid’ah (innovation) and so on, and they like another because his religious commitment is better, such as if he is more honest, more knowledgeable or more religiously committed, then the imam whom they like should be appointed to lead them, and that imam whom they dislike should not lead them in prayer. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There are three whose prayers will not go any further than their ears: a man who leads people in prayer when they dislike him, a man who does not come to pray until the time for the prayer is over, and a man who enslaves a man who has been set free.”

But if the imam is religiously committed and follows the Sunnah, and they dislike him because of that, then it is not makrooh for him to lead them in the prayer, rather they are to be blamed for disliking him. Whatever the case, there should be harmony between the imam and the people who follow him (in the prayer); they should cooperate in righteousness and piety and refrain from hatred that is based on whims and desires and devilish aims.

source:http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/101766/leading the prayers

and wat are the etiquette of doing jummah if someone can share?
jazakAllah khair

hope your brothers will help you there!!

Source:my head!!

barakallah fik.

warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu

 

[slaveofAllah88]

aslam o alaikum

JazakAllah khair sister Seeking Allah's mercy you answred all the questions very well in detail

thank u again