News Malaysia court rules non-Muslims cannot use 'Allah'

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
Assalamu alaykum, Just read this article on the BBC News site. Seems very strange, extreme and has no precedent in Islam. In the Middle East, before and during Muslim rule, Christians and Jews have been using the name "Allah" for centuries. Neither the Allah, nor His Prophet Muhammad :saw: said anything against its use. The Caliphs that followed also had not stopped Christians from using Allah's name. In fact, even the mushrikeen pagans at the time of the Prophet Muhammad :saw: used to believe in and know Allah as the Creator, their sin was shirk, because they believed in many other deities.


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Source: BBC

A Malaysian court has ruled that non-Muslims cannot use the word Allah to refer to God, even in their own faiths, overturning a 2009 lower court ruling.

The appeals court said the term Allah must be exclusive to Islam or it could cause public disorder.

People of all faiths use the word Allah in Malay to refer to their Gods.

Christians argue they have used the word, which entered Malay from Arabic, to refer to their God for centuries and that the ruling violates their rights.

One Malaysian Christian woman said the ruling would affect the community greatly.

"If we are prohibited from using the word Allah then we have to re-translate the whole Bible, if it comes to that," Ester Moiji from Sabah state told the BBC.

'Disappointed and dismayed'
The 2009 ruling sparked tensions, with churches and mosques attacked.

It came after the government said that a Catholic newspaper, The Herald, could not use the word in its Malay-language edition to describe the Christian God.

The newspaper sued, and a court ruled in their favour in December 2009. The government then launched an appeal.

Upholding the appeal on Monday, chief judge Mohamed Apandi Ali said: "The usage of the word Allah is not an integral part of the faith in Christianity. The usage of the word will cause confusion in the community."

The Herald editor Reverend Lawrence Andrew said he was "disappointed and dismayed", and would appeal against the decision.

"It is a retrograde step in the development of law in relation to the fundamental liberty of religious minorities," he said.

The newspaper's supporters have argued that Malay-language Bibles have used Allah to refer to the Christian God since before Malaysia was formed as a federal state in 1963.

"Allah is a term in the Middle East and in Indonesia it is a term both for Christians and Muslims. You cannot say that in all of the sudden it is not an integral part. Malay language is a language that has many borrowed words, Allah also is a borrowed word."

However, some Muslim groups have said that the Christian use of the word Allah could be used to encourage Muslims to convert to Christianity.

"Allah is not a Malay word. If they [non-Muslims] say they want to use a Malay word they should use Tuhan instead of Allah," Zainul Rijal Abu Bakar, a lawyer representing the government, told the BBC.

Dozens of churches and a few Muslim prayer halls were attacked and burned in the wake of the 2009 ruling, highlighting the intensity of feeling about issues of ethnicity and faith in Malaysia.

Some Malaysians believe the governing Malay-Muslim party is using the case to boost its Islamic credentials among voters, the BBC's Jennifer Pak reports from outside the court in Putrajaya.

Malay Muslims make up almost two-thirds of the country's population, but there are large Hindu and Christian communities.

Prime Minister Najib Razak's coalition won elections in May, but it was the coalition's worst result in more than half a century in power.
 

John Smith

Junior Member
Ok.... Sometimes Muslims make a rod for their own backs and this being a prime case.

Allah Swt is the creator of all not just Muslims.

Instead of banning using the name Allah maybe those concerned should place more effort on informing those who do not know how to come closer & understand their creator Allah Swt & his rights.
 

SonOfAdam

Well-Known Member
Staff member
I also found this a bit disturbing. I have a feeling it is taken out of context though... maybe they are saying don't call Jesus AS, or other false deities, Allah...?

Even so though, Islam allows freedom of religion and many Christians do believe Jesus is God/Lord... estaghfirullah. See I can't even put Allah in that sentence. I should move to Malaysia. :)
 

Cariad

Junior Member
Son of Adam, sorry but I think you are in error, Christians in some parts of the world have always called God by the name Allah, this term is reserved for God the father alone. It is simply a matter of linguistics. How very sad that people put such importance on a word without thinking what the word means to different people. :(

Another case of divide and conquer when we could just live in peace. :(
 
Assallammualaikum,

I am from Malaysia. Why the herald want to use the Name Allah? because it is very successful in Indonesia churches have multiply 150% last year alone and by 2035 Indonesia will became a christian nation, so thats why this happened, and that why i am in a dilemma.
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
Assallammualaikum,

I am from Malaysia. Why the herald want to use the Name Allah? because it is very successful in Indonesia churches have multiply 150% last year alone and by 2035 Indonesia will became a christian nation, so thats why this happened, and that why i am in a dilemma.

Wa alaykum salam,

I doubt that very much, firstly Indonesia is a nation with quite religious Muslims, secondly the Muslim population of Indonesia is the largest in the world for a single country, over 203 Million almost 90% of the population. How in just over 10 years will the 7% Christians overtake them? Sorry, but this is just spreading unjustified rumours.
 
Wa alaykum salam,

I doubt that very much, firstly Indonesia is a nation with quite religious Muslims, secondly the Muslim population of Indonesia is the largest in the world for a single country, over 203 Million almost 90% of the population. How in just over 10 years will the 7% Christians overtake them? Sorry, but this is just spreading unjustified rumours.

Search youtube for "save mariam" I got it from their youtube video, I am not debating about the info truth or not, but I am trying to explain why some muslim are very concern about allowing the use of Allah name by non muslim. Personally if there is proof in sunnah and hadith that allowed it, I will follow it.
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
Search youtube for "save mariam" I got it from their youtube video, I am not debating about the info truth or not, but I am trying to explain why some muslim are very concern about allowing the use of Allah name by non muslim. Personally if there is proof in sunnah and hadith that allowed it, I will follow it.

You do know that Christians and Jews use the name Allah, in the Middle East? They have Arabic bibles too.
 
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