muslimummah
Just a brother
:salam2:
I know many brothers and sisters as well going the modern way to getting married. It is common sense to use your own judgment but some scams are extremely well organized and these type of scams most are not aware (not your typical nigerian scam emails).
Couple of points which is well known:
-Never give money, credit card, bank info to anyone; whether it is for plane tickets or anything. If one of two can't afford, the other one should travel.
-See the countries, age differences...some just want to get married for visa. People are crazy about coming to west from 3rd world countries.
Here is comes by story. It will be long and boring but if you can endure it...good for you.:lol: I will change names to keep things anonymous but the facts are very true.
There was a brother who decided it is time to get married but parents were not looking or helping. He decided to online route. He was computer savvy, so he was well aware of typical scams and he used to buy things online etc. So, he signed up a muslim matrimonial site and you probably know typical it works. People will send a simple Hi message and most aren't serious. A week later after signed up, the brother received a serious message along with the email address. The email address itself was pretty islamic (eg. [email protected]). The brother replied back. The second email the brother received from her is lengthy, serious and lots of quote about marriage from Hadith/quran (i.e. garments for each other, and marry for religion only). So, they exchanged formal emails almost each day and each asking questions such as role of husband/wife, how to manage anger etc
3 weeks later, they decided they should meet up. The brother started a new job recently thus he couldn't get days off and the sister wasn't working. She was supposedly UK citizen living in singapore. She told him about her family and she wasn't healthy and she had no parents and her uncle is her guardian. He told her to come instead, thus offered her to partially help with the ticket. In the end, he paid the full ticket anyway. Later, she claimed after contact with travel agent, she needs to get full medical checkup done before visit USA. She asked him for some help and she will cover the rest. Lastly, she said she needed to show 2000 so that she can travel. She mentioned she has 1000 and need 1000 and pay the 1000 right back when she meet him as the money isn't going to spent.
Later, she provided the flight date, and plane number etc ...At the day of flight, she is supposed to have an accident. The brother doesn't know that until 3-4 days, so to make it sound genuine that she was at the hospital in comma for 2-3 days. She provided a typed medical report to the brother to make things look right. Brother felt sorry and ask her to use all the money given to her including retrieving the ticket money for the medical use. Later, 1 week down the road..she need money for medicine and she used to say she would pay right back. She never directly asked for money but explain her situation where the brother would offer to help. Now, the brother is fed up and asked in one email is this some sort of SCAM. She replied in the same manner stating, "Allah is grant him good for kindness. She acted mad and said, no it not a scam. She doesn't need his money. She didn't withdraw it and he can take it back." The brother got more confidence as a scammer won't give money back. Her response was always very islamic, long and they used to share islamic articles/viewpoints through email all the time.
She claimed she was in the hospital for 3 weeks. Brother decided he visit her now after she is healed. She claimed it is better that she come to UK (after all, she is a UK citizen) and she has lots of debt from medical bills and his debt to. She want to work and pay them back. Again got some help from the brother for the ticket to UK from her country. She kept claiming she would give the money back once she earned some $ and she kept saying that is already paying a lot debt back back home that she borrowed.
Now, the sister again decided to meet the brother finally to usa as she is closer. Sister said that she would pay for ticket this time, but eventually got help from the brother. She played clever here as she said she will get a visa this time to make things easier and asked him to send sponsorship letter, etc. Provided flight information again as last time. On the day she suppose to arrive didn't show again, one day after...she email him saying flight changed and he didn't hear from her since then. Brother was worried as she might be in some trouble again. So, the brother try to reach her uncle but couldn't (cell goes to message). So, he called UK police reporting a person is missing. He provided the two address she lived at and the Police found out nobody ever lived by that name on those addresses.
To make long story short, everything is done right to prevent any suspicion and make she was very genuine. I left out a lot of detail which make everything sound genuine as I don't have time or space to write 3-4 months of stuff(example, delaying writing after the accident, sending short text messages from hospital instead of the long formal emails, providing medical reports, a random call to him, assurance she will pay back).
In conclusion, just be street smart. Remember, scammer takes only 1 person out of how many tries to be successful.
It is a very true story!!!!!!
Jazakallah Khair!
I know many brothers and sisters as well going the modern way to getting married. It is common sense to use your own judgment but some scams are extremely well organized and these type of scams most are not aware (not your typical nigerian scam emails).
Couple of points which is well known:
-Never give money, credit card, bank info to anyone; whether it is for plane tickets or anything. If one of two can't afford, the other one should travel.
-See the countries, age differences...some just want to get married for visa. People are crazy about coming to west from 3rd world countries.
Here is comes by story. It will be long and boring but if you can endure it...good for you.:lol: I will change names to keep things anonymous but the facts are very true.
There was a brother who decided it is time to get married but parents were not looking or helping. He decided to online route. He was computer savvy, so he was well aware of typical scams and he used to buy things online etc. So, he signed up a muslim matrimonial site and you probably know typical it works. People will send a simple Hi message and most aren't serious. A week later after signed up, the brother received a serious message along with the email address. The email address itself was pretty islamic (eg. [email protected]). The brother replied back. The second email the brother received from her is lengthy, serious and lots of quote about marriage from Hadith/quran (i.e. garments for each other, and marry for religion only). So, they exchanged formal emails almost each day and each asking questions such as role of husband/wife, how to manage anger etc
3 weeks later, they decided they should meet up. The brother started a new job recently thus he couldn't get days off and the sister wasn't working. She was supposedly UK citizen living in singapore. She told him about her family and she wasn't healthy and she had no parents and her uncle is her guardian. He told her to come instead, thus offered her to partially help with the ticket. In the end, he paid the full ticket anyway. Later, she claimed after contact with travel agent, she needs to get full medical checkup done before visit USA. She asked him for some help and she will cover the rest. Lastly, she said she needed to show 2000 so that she can travel. She mentioned she has 1000 and need 1000 and pay the 1000 right back when she meet him as the money isn't going to spent.
Later, she provided the flight date, and plane number etc ...At the day of flight, she is supposed to have an accident. The brother doesn't know that until 3-4 days, so to make it sound genuine that she was at the hospital in comma for 2-3 days. She provided a typed medical report to the brother to make things look right. Brother felt sorry and ask her to use all the money given to her including retrieving the ticket money for the medical use. Later, 1 week down the road..she need money for medicine and she used to say she would pay right back. She never directly asked for money but explain her situation where the brother would offer to help. Now, the brother is fed up and asked in one email is this some sort of SCAM. She replied in the same manner stating, "Allah is grant him good for kindness. She acted mad and said, no it not a scam. She doesn't need his money. She didn't withdraw it and he can take it back." The brother got more confidence as a scammer won't give money back. Her response was always very islamic, long and they used to share islamic articles/viewpoints through email all the time.
She claimed she was in the hospital for 3 weeks. Brother decided he visit her now after she is healed. She claimed it is better that she come to UK (after all, she is a UK citizen) and she has lots of debt from medical bills and his debt to. She want to work and pay them back. Again got some help from the brother for the ticket to UK from her country. She kept claiming she would give the money back once she earned some $ and she kept saying that is already paying a lot debt back back home that she borrowed.
Now, the sister again decided to meet the brother finally to usa as she is closer. Sister said that she would pay for ticket this time, but eventually got help from the brother. She played clever here as she said she will get a visa this time to make things easier and asked him to send sponsorship letter, etc. Provided flight information again as last time. On the day she suppose to arrive didn't show again, one day after...she email him saying flight changed and he didn't hear from her since then. Brother was worried as she might be in some trouble again. So, the brother try to reach her uncle but couldn't (cell goes to message). So, he called UK police reporting a person is missing. He provided the two address she lived at and the Police found out nobody ever lived by that name on those addresses.
To make long story short, everything is done right to prevent any suspicion and make she was very genuine. I left out a lot of detail which make everything sound genuine as I don't have time or space to write 3-4 months of stuff(example, delaying writing after the accident, sending short text messages from hospital instead of the long formal emails, providing medical reports, a random call to him, assurance she will pay back).
In conclusion, just be street smart. Remember, scammer takes only 1 person out of how many tries to be successful.
It is a very true story!!!!!!
Jazakallah Khair!