need clarification

[ummyasiin]

salaams, I had a lil discussion with sum1 about "rings" now Ive read from Utheymeen that they are jus rings as long as they are not to be believed that have sum form of bond to the marriage than they are haram, than I read that shiek Fawzaan says that they are haram though they imatate the kufrs, then I read the hadith of the Prophet saw and he states "give her an iron ring" and from that the other person states the iktalaaf hehind that is not stating that it means its ok too have a "ring".....can anyone provide a Fatwa or somthing sound so I can have clear guidence inshallah...

 

[Happy 2BA Muslim]

:salam2: Sister,

I believe that engagement rings are not unlawful, but I prefer them to be avoided, because of some superstitions that are sometimes associated with them.

The practice of giving engagement rings is a new one and thus not addressed by the classical works of Islamic Law. However, there are three situations with respect to those who adhere to this practice, and these situations affect the ruling that must be given.

1. Some people vest in such rings certain powers and believe that they create love in the couple’s hearts and that removal of the rings will lead to separation or hatred. In this case, use of these rings is expressly forbidden, since it constitutes a case of minor polytheism. The reason for this being polytheism is that the people give effective power in something that is neither a religious nor a natural cause for anything.

2. If the engagement ring is made of gold, then the man may not wear it, since it is forbidden for men to wear gold. The woman, however, may have her ring made out of gold.

3. In cases where there are no beliefs associated with the rings and where the man will not be wearing a gold ring, then scholars disagree whether it is permitted but disliked for being a new and baseless practice or whether it is permissible without reservation as a harmless custom.

It does not have to be prohibited on account of being a custom of the unbelievers, especially since the custom is widespread in most Muslim countries.

As I said before, I do not deem it prohibited, but I warn against it if it has a chance of bringing about those false beliefs mentioned above.

And Allah knows best.

Shaikh Salman Al-Oadah

www.islamtoday.com

:salam2:

 

[ummyasiin]

shurkran, although, even if it it a request for a dowry, not in as the marriage?...

 

[Happy 2BA Muslim]

shurkran, although, even if it it a request for a dowry, not in as the marriage?...

:salam2: Sister,

I don`t seem to understand your question above. Can you please clarify?

:salam2:

 

[ummyasiin]

if the sister jus request sum sort of ring for her dowry, not wedding bands or the like, just a ring of her liking, without any implication of kufr beliefs (token of love thru the ring) or any thing in the manner. jus a ring.

 

[Happy 2BA Muslim]

if the sister jus request sum sort of ring for her dowry, not wedding bands or the like, just a ring of her liking, without any implication of kufr beliefs (token of love thru the ring) or any thing in the manner. jus a ring.

:salam2:

In cases where there are no beliefs associated with the rings and where the man will not be wearing a gold ring, then scholars disagree whether it is permitted but disliked for being a new and baseless practice or whether it is permissible without reservation as a harmless custom.

:salam2:

 

[ummyasiin]

thank you for clarifying that for me, I have came across about the same, and I too notice the dissagreement with it......I appreciate you time. salams

 

[ahmed_indian]

:salam2:

if the sister jus request sum sort of ring for her dowry, not wedding bands or the like, just a ring of her liking, without any implication of kufr beliefs (token of love thru the ring) or any thing in the manner. jus a ring.

In cases where there are no beliefs associated with the rings and where the man will not be wearing a gold ring, then scholars disagree whether it is permitted but disliked for being a new and baseless practice or whether it is permissible without reservation as a harmless custom.

:salam2:

if a wife requests a ring frm her husband just like any other jewellery....will it be ok?