PGCE anyone?

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summertime

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:salam2: everyone

Anyone out there who has started or already done a PGCE??? I'll be starting in september insh~Allah and would be greatful for some tips!!

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asalamualaykum wa rahmatullah,

Okay this is a good thread! I will be starting a course soon known as SAS (Student Associate Scheme), and inshallah i hope to progress from this onto a PGCE.

can some please explain to me what exaclty a PGCE is? how it works? what you need to do? and how long it takes?
 
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sal12

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It's a course in the UK like a training course which u have to do if u want to become a teacher. It lasts for 1 year and u get paid doing it. My friends want to do that too and they've researched on it and have said it's supposed to be quite hard but working ur head off for 1 year shouldn't be too hard. Nothing's easy anyway when u want to gain a qualification. We have to work hard to achieve anything really! The PGCE involves placements at schools too so it's theory and practical. Just a broad outline of the course.

Ma'asalama
 
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summertime

sister :)
:salam2:

yes thats a pretty accurate description! The SAS scheme will definitley give you the required experience and make it much easier for you. i personally dont have that much class room experience so i'm a bit scared but inshAllah i'll be o.k.....anyone else out there with any tips???

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MubarekMuslimah

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salaams

Sal2 gave accurate description of PGCE course except you dont really get paid for it. You get funding but you need to pay fees to do the course - so your funding tends to go on that - you wont earn a salary while doing it like a job, you wouldnt be able to call it an income to live on. So you need to work part time if you need an income or have savings or some other funds.

You maybe getting confused with a GTP course - Graduate Teacher Programme which is also a 1 year course but instead of being at University, you are based in a school full time and work in the school and earn a basic salary - of about £18,000 in London...less elsewhere..however this is even more demanding course than PGCE as you have to work and study at the same time and the competition to get a place is fierce!

Most people who are graduates tend to go for the PGCE course...if money is a problem though you can do it part-time over 2 years instead - so theoretically you could work as a Teaching Assistant part time and fo PGCE part time...

At the end of either the GTP or PGCE you will awared UK Qualified Teacher Status (QTS) - if you pass. This will mean you are an NQT ( Newly Qualified Teacher) and your first full year of teaching full time in a school will be called your Induction Year - when you must meet certain standards in order to gain FULL QTS....sounds scary but to be honest if you have passed the course, you should have no problems with the Induction Year and you get a lot of support for that year too and time away from the classroom.

If you dont have a degree you can do a degree that will give you UK Qualified Teacher Status at the end ( as well as the degree itself) - called a B.Ed. (hons) or a BA QTS - is a standard 3 years.

Go on the TDA website www.teach.gov.uk for more informaiton about funding and fees and stuff...

Good luck - we need more Muslim teachers insha'allah! Good role model for our children :)

Wasalaams
 
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summertime

sister :)
MubarekMuslimah said:
salaams

Sal2 gave accurate description of PGCE course except you dont really get paid for it. You get funding but you need to pay fees to do the course - so your funding tends to go on that - you wont earn a salary while doing it like a job, you wouldnt be able to call it an income to live on. So you need to work part time if you need an income or have savings or some other funds.

You maybe getting confused with a GTP course - Graduate Teacher Programme which is also a 1 year course but instead of being at University, you are based in a school full time and work in the school and earn a basic salary - of about £18,000 in London...less elsewhere..however this is even more demanding course than PGCE as you have to work and study at the same time and the competition to get a place is fierce!

Most people who are graduates tend to go for the PGCE course...if money is a problem though you can do it part-time over 2 years instead - so theoretically you could work as a Teaching Assistant part time and fo PGCE part time...

At the end of either the GTP or PGCE you will awared UK Qualified Teacher Status (QTS) - if you pass. This will mean you are an NQT ( Newly Qualified Teacher) and your first full year of teaching full time in a school will be called your Induction Year - when you must meet certain standards in order to gain FULL QTS....sounds scary but to be honest if you have passed the course, you should have no problems with the Induction Year and you get a lot of support for that year too and time away from the classroom.

If you dont have a degree you can do a degree that will give you UK Qualified Teacher Status at the end ( as well as the degree itself) - called a B.Ed. (hons) or a BA QTS - is a standard 3 years.

Go on the TDA website www.teach.gov.uk for more informaiton about funding and fees and stuff...

Good luck - we need more Muslim teachers insha'allah! Good role model for our children :)

Wasalaams
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Have you done your PGCE??
 
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MubarekMuslimah

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Salaams

No I havent done a PGCE but the website I mentioned - I work for them ( kind of) so I know a lot about teaching..if you have any more questions let me know - happy to help.:)

Wasalaams
 
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summertime

sister :)
:salam2:

You work for TDA!! wow that brilliant!! Well i'm still a bit unsure about the whole funding thing. Does the university fund us or do we have to apply for a grant through student finance direct?? would be grateful for your help!

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MubarekMuslimah

Junior Member
Assalaamu alaikum

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner...

Try this

http://www.tda.gov.uk/Recruit/thetrainingprocess/fundinginengland.aspx#postgrad

Really you need to contact your local authority (LEA/LA) and the college/uni you will be training at...they will be able to tell you how much you will get and it will depend on the course you are on - what you are studying( specialising in) - if its secondary or primary...if you are part time or full time..

Course fees for PGCS are roughly £3.5k but you need to check exactly with your Uni. You dont have to pay it all up front - you can pay it back after you have graduated. You may also need to factor in living costs too

The grant you receive from the LEA is normally calculated as follows ( though these figures change a little each year:)

If your household income is £17,910 or less, you are entitled to the full maintenance grant of £2,765. If your household income is between £17,911 and £38,805 you are entitled to a partial maintenance grant that will be less than £2,765. The grant is administered by your Local Authority, is available for every year of full-time study and does not have to be repaid - most people use it to pay the course fees - especially since you dont want to encouter interest insha'allah...anyway as I said, ring your LA ( council education department and ask to speak to student finance - they can advise you of exact figures and will be the people dishing out the ££)

Hope that helps insha'allah - if you have any more Qs feel free to PM me.

Wasalaams
 
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Zeenatii

Junior Member
Assalamoualikoum

i have done a PGCE, its a very demanding course you must be well prepared for it and work hard on your subject knowledge, if you in england try to do a taster course for two weeks where you will work in school for two weeks. You should contact your local council. As for the funding you now get upto £9000 bursary and if you are a home student you get loan to pay your fees. But its worth it.
Goodluck.
 
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annaya

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:salam2:

I want to apply for french GTP 2011 in shaa Allah :tti_sister: in muslim school, is it possible ? I am french with arab back ground, I know in Uk you have some quota for immigration even from EU.
I want to be assistant of french this year 2010/2011 but a lot of muslim school have not french as foreign language,
can you please giving me any information about that ?
Sorry for my english, it is not yet fluent

JazakumAllahu khayran
 
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