Please advise on this........

[IbnAdam77]

assalam 'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

Dear brothers and sisters I hope you all are with the best of iiman and health with the mercy of Allah.

I have a friend who wants to lcarify this perticular issue. He is not a very religious brother but he is keen to know how this is in Islam (which I meant as a positive sign atleast).

Okey lets turn to the issue. He is having a relationship with this girl for so long and now they have realised that both of them are Talesemia Careers. If two careers marry, there is a probability of getting a patient of 25%. That means one of each four children they have will be a Talesemia Patient. It is broven medically and in real examples. First one or second one or third one also can be the one. Not necessarily the last one.

So the question arise here is, is it pemissible to marry if both the bride and groom are Talesemia Careers?
Please provide with as much authentic sources as possible.

Jazakumullahu khair in advance.

wassalam 'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

 

[q8penpals]

Assalam aliekum

I do not know the answer to the question you ask. But because so many of the TTI posters are non-Native English speakers, I thought I would clarify that he means CARRIERS, not CAREERS. Both the man and woman are CARRIERS of the gene for that particular disorder.

I hope this helps you get an educated response - Sister ShyHijabi is in Medical school - perhaps she can help you.

 

[Idris16]

Allahu Akbar here it is!!

I would like to ask your opinion about a matter. A religious moral man has proposed to me, I am also moral and religious, I ask Allah to keep me this way. We were optimistic about this marriage. But by doing the pre-marriage examinations we found out that it is 50% possible that we will have children carrying thalassemia, 25% possible that we have healthy children, and 25% possible that we have children carrying thalassemia, because both of us carry this disease. Considering that if a person is carrier of this disease, it might be carried over to his children if he marries who carries the disease as well. While it is not the same case if he marries a healthy woman.
My father has left the choice up to me. I am confused. Should I give preference to marrying a good man rather than to my children being healthy?.

Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly:

Undoubtedly one of the aims of marriage is to produce righteous offspring and increase the numbers of the ummah of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), as it says in the hadeeth narrated by Abu Dawood (2050) from Ma’qil ibn Yasaar (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: A man came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said, “I have found a woman who is of good lineage and is beautiful, but she does not bear children. Should I marry her?” He said, “No.” Then he came again with the same question and he told him not to marry her. Then he came a third time with the same question and he said: “Marry those who are loving and fertile, for I will be proud of your great numbers before the other nations.” Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Irwa’ al-Ghaleel, 1784.

That also means producing offspring who are healthy and able to do the duties enjoined by Islam, and to bear the burdens of conveying the message.

If the couple know that their marriage may produce children who are sick or who are carriers of a disease, then it is better for them not to get married in that case, so as to ward off expected harm and to reduce evil and harm in the ummah of Islam, and to protect themselves from hardship and suffering that may affect them when taking care of a sick child.

From what we have read, it seems that if both spouses are carriers of this sickness, then each of their children has a 25% chance of being healthy, a 25% chance of being affected, and a 50% chance of being a carrier. But if one of them is healthy and the other is a carrier of the disease, then the danger is greatly reduced, as the possibility of the child being born healthy goes up to 50%, and the possibility of him being a carrier of the disease is also 50%, but there is no possibility of the child being born with the disease.

These possibilities are based on experience and research, but the matter is entirely subject to the will and decree of Allaah.

As that is the case, then it is better for you to marry a healthy person. This does not mean that you should put good health before religious commitment as you say; what you have to do is to look for a healthy man who is religiously committed, and there are many such, praise be to Allaah.

If you give up the idea of this marriage for the sake of your children, and to reduce the sickness and prevent it spreading further in the ummah, then we hope that Allaah will compensate you with good, and reward you for that.

We ask Allaah to help and guide you.

And Allaah knows best.

 

[misbah ul haya]

asalam u alaikum,
being a medical student i would suggest that these people must not marry each other but i think it would be very materialistic approach that we depend on genes for health of children rather than on Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala Who can induce the disease in children of healthy parents.
Brother you should ask some Alim about this matter because this is serious issue as thalassemia is very dangerous disease in which person cant make normal blood and need blood donated by healthy individuals(so they should not marry) but if they dont do so then where does TAWKAL go-the most important element of our iman.
may Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala help them in this and other matters of life.ameen

 

[IbnAdam77]

Assalam aliekum

I do not know the answer to the question you ask. But because so many of the TTI posters are non-Native English speakers, I thought I would clarify that he means CARRIERS, not CAREERS. Both the man and woman are CARRIERS of the gene for that particular disorder.

I hope this helps you get an educated response - Sister ShyHijabi is in Medical school - perhaps she can help you.

JazakiAllahu khair dear sister for your kind correction in my language.

I would like to ask your opinion about a matter. A religious moral man has proposed to me, I am also moral and religious, I ask Allah to keep me this way. We were optimistic about this marriage. But by doing the pre-marriage examinations we found out that it is 50% possible that we will have children carrying thalassemia, 25% possible that we have healthy children, and 25% possible that we have children carrying thalassemia, because both of us carry this disease. Considering that if a person is carrier of this disease, it might be carried over to his children if he marries who carries the disease as well. While it is not the same case if he marries a healthy woman.
My father has left the choice up to me. I am confused. Should I give preference to marrying a good man rather than to my children being healthy?.

Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly:

Undoubtedly one of the aims of marriage is to produce righteous offspring and increase the numbers of the ummah of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), as it says in the hadeeth narrated by Abu Dawood (2050) from Ma’qil ibn Yasaar (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: A man came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said, “I have found a woman who is of good lineage and is beautiful, but she does not bear children. Should I marry her?” He said, “No.” Then he came again with the same question and he told him not to marry her. Then he came a third time with the same question and he said: “Marry those who are loving and fertile, for I will be proud of your great numbers before the other nations.” Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Irwa’ al-Ghaleel, 1784.

That also means producing offspring who are healthy and able to do the duties enjoined by Islam, and to bear the burdens of conveying the message.

If the couple know that their marriage may produce children who are sick or who are carriers of a disease, then it is better for them not to get married in that case, so as to ward off expected harm and to reduce evil and harm in the ummah of Islam, and to protect themselves from hardship and suffering that may affect them when taking care of a sick child.

From what we have read, it seems that if both spouses are carriers of this sickness, then each of their children has a 25% chance of being healthy, a 25% chance of being affected, and a 50% chance of being a carrier. But if one of them is healthy and the other is a carrier of the disease, then the danger is greatly reduced, as the possibility of the child being born healthy goes up to 50%, and the possibility of him being a carrier of the disease is also 50%, but there is no possibility of the child being born with the disease.

These possibilities are based on experience and research, but the matter is entirely subject to the will and decree of Allaah.

As that is the case, then it is better for you to marry a healthy person. This does not mean that you should put good health before religious commitment as you say; what you have to do is to look for a healthy man who is religiously committed, and there are many such, praise be to Allaah.

If you give up the idea of this marriage for the sake of your children, and to reduce the sickness and prevent it spreading further in the ummah, then we hope that Allaah will compensate you with good, and reward you for that.

We ask Allaah to help and guide you.

And Allaah knows best.

JazakAllahu khair brother for the Fatwa. It provides a clear image of the situation and responded with authentic evidence. However, may I ask whose Fatwa is this? I am not questioning about your sincerity my dear brother. But it is my duty to ask it. Hope you will not mind.

asalam u alaikum,
being a medical student i would suggest that these people must not marry each other but i think it would be very materialistic approach that we depend on genes for health of children rather than on Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala Who can induce the disease in children of healthy parents.
Brother you should ask some Alim about this matter because this is serious issue as thalassemia is very dangerous disease in which person cant make normal blood and need blood donated by healthy individuals(so they should not marry) but if they dont do so then where does TAWKAL go-the most important element of our iman.
may Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala help them in this and other matters of life.ameen

JazakAllahu khair dear sister for your help. Yeah I know its danger and difficulties it has, because I have a cousin who is a Thalassemia Patient. She is around 16 or 17 years now I guess.

Once again I truly appreciate your kind help my dear brother and sisters. may Allah reward you abundantly.

wassalam 'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

 

[Idris16]

JazakAllahu khair brother for the Fatwa. It provides a clear image of the situation and responded with authentic evidence. However, may I ask whose Fatwa is this? I am not questioning about your sincerity my dear brother. But it is my duty to ask it. Hope you will not mind.

:salam2:
It's from IslamQA

 

[IbnAdam77]

:salam2:
It's from IslamQA

wa'alaikumussalam warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

Wow thats quick. JazakAllahu khair brother. Actually by the way the sentences were, I really thought it is most likely to be one of Sheikh Salih al-Munajjad. Of course he is the Sheikh of IslamQA. LOL

wassalam 'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh