Pope baptizes famous Muslim convert

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umm hussain

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VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Benedict led the world's Catholics into Easter on Saturday at a Vatican service where he baptized a Muslim-born convert who is one of Italy's most famous and controversial journalists.

The German-born pontiff, marking the third Easter season of his pontificate, began the service in the atrium of a darkened St Peter's Basilica where he carved the Greek letters Alpha and Omega on a large candle.

The basilica became a sea of flickering flames as thousands of faithful inside lit candles before the lights were turned on in a ritual symbolizing the darkness in the world after Christ's death and the light of the resurrection.

Easter, the most important day in the Church's liturgical calendar, commemorates Christ rising from the dead three days after he was crucified.

In his sermon, Benedict wove a connection between the resurrection of Christ and the sacrament of baptism, the initiation rite of Christianity.

"...from the abyss of death he was able to rise to life. Now he raises us from death to true life. This is exactly what happens in baptism," the pope said.

The pope traditionally baptizes newborns on January 1 and adult converts to Catholicism on Easter eve.

One of the seven adults he baptized on Saturday night was Magdi Allam, 55, an Egyptian-born journalist who, as deputy director of the leading newspaper Corriere della Sera, is one of Italy's best-known intellectuals.

Allam, a fierce critic of Islamic extremism and a strong supporter of Israel, is protected by a police escort because of threats he has received.

WELL-KEPT SECRET

His conversion to Christianity was a well-kept secret, disclosed by the Vatican in a statement less than an hour before the Easter eve service started.

"For the Catholic Church, each person who asks to receive baptism after a deep personal search, a fully free choice and adequate preparation, has a right to receive it," it said.

Allam defended the pope in 2006 when the pontiff made a speech in Regensburg, Germany, that many Muslims perceived as depicting Islam as a violent faith.

The Vatican statement announcing Allam was joining Catholicism said all newcomers were "equally important before God's love and welcome in the community of the Church."

Allam, who has been living in Italy for 35 years, has said he was never a very devout Muslim. Still, his conversion to Christianity came as a surprise.

"What amazes me is the high profile the Vatican has given this conversion," Yaha Sergio Yahe Pallavicini, vice-president of the Italian Islamic Religious Community, told Reuters.

The Easter eve service was the first of three at which the pope presides. On Sunday he will celebrate a mass and then deliver his twice-yearly "Urbi et Orbi" (to the city and the world) blessing and message.

(Reporting by Philip Pullella; Editing by Robert Woodward)
 

A Kashmiri

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Well this has been a favourite recipe of the western media.

If a 50 year old muslim marries a 20 year old girl , he comes on the front page but if a 50 year old non muslim rapes a 20 year old gril that is not even in the last page.


This is all western media is all about.............
 

aisha-uk

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well this man wasn't a practising muslim (don't know if u should call him a muslim or not?), because if he was then he would never leave Islam..
 

al-fajr

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^He has chosen to openly reject Islam and enter a different faith, so I think this is 'leaving' Islam and so he is an apostate.
 

Bawar

Struggling2Surrender
Brothres and sisters his islamic roots are highly doubted.

His mother sent him to Catholic school from childhood. If he was the child of muslim parents, he would be sent to a muslim or at least a non-christian school.

Just the Arabic name doesn't make a person muslim. Don't forget that there has been a very big number of Christians in Egypt since before Islam.

Also, Magdi has written many anti-islam books long before this conversion so that tells the story.

Wassalam
 

tabaria

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Also take note that the Pope has never done this on easter day. This was meant intentionally to be provocative and somewhat insulting. Yet the Saudis still want to build a catholic church.
 

Bluegazer

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Assalamu Alaikum,


This is not the first time a Muslim has left Islam, and it's probably not the last time. Having said that, here are some points to consider:

1- If you compare the number of Christians embracing Islam to the number of Muslims becoming Christians, I believe the net result is that Muslims are gaining more converts than Christians.


2- Some of the Christians who become Muslims were formerly of the clergy, such as priests. You also have nuns who have embraced Islam.


3- Of the laity of Christians who have accepted Islam, you have Law Professors and Ambassadors and other such high ranking jobs.


4- In spite of all the negative media Islam is getting in the West, Christian converts to Islam outnumber Muslim apostates to Christianity.


Brothers and sisters in Islam, the religion of Allah the Almighty is protected. It is Magdi Allaam who is the loser. I hope he reverts back to Islam before he dies. But if he doesn't, then it's his loss alone.


I ask Allah the Almighty to keep us steadfast on the religion of Islam so that we die as Muslims.


Aameen.


Regards,

Bluegazer

Wassalamu Alaikum
 

Abdul Hasib

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This guy obviously left Islam because of his weakness in Eman and Faith, but still, yes, he's an apostate, but that's his fault and his decision to leave Islam. If he wants to be that much of a dolt that he wants to turn his back on Allah and Nabi Muhammad (SAW), and do shirk, he's the one who's going to be answered to Allah. He'll regret that he left Islam, and it's no one's fault but his own.

Iblees and the Shaytaans only whisper evil things into people's minds and hearts, but they are the ones who have the choice to accept it or not. Just like Allah gave Muslims things that are wonderfull, but it's their decision if they want to accept it or not.
 

lostlilly07

striving 4 Firadous
:salam2:

If they did a story on all the Christians who have left christianity and come to islam if be enough to fill quite a few large encyclopedias. so this one person who was never truly muslim or never had the chance to love Islam and Allah and the prophet sallaahu alahi wa salaam....well he was not needed...wasted space.
 

BrotherZak

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I don't know how you can convert to Christianity and yet still try to retain any intellectual credibility. Its common sense that Modern day Christianity is a dying religion with 40 percent of their youths have turned to agnosticism and atheism. The church pews are empty and no one is listening to their rhetoric on an intellectual level. The only reason i see so-called Muslims who somehow embrace Christianity is due to spiritual or emotional reasons, such as seeing the face of Jesus(pbuh) in a dream or seeing some sign. These ex-muslims usually have the same characteristics: prewesternized, never used to pray salah, no real knoweldge of islam at a all.

Do these people even study the history of Christianity's? The gradual corruption of their scriptures? The violent history of missionary forced conversions? It amazes me how a competent mind can be convinced by Christianity, even now the very historical person of Jesus is in question; which includes resurrection and the trinity.

"This because those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the Truth from their Lord: Thus does Allah set forth for men their lessons by similitudes." Quran
 

ShyHijabi

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Salaam,

He was a critic of Islam but also states he didn't know much about the religion? How can he be takens eriously then? That's like me stating I don't believe in gravity and not even undestanding the basics of physics. Like brother Bluegazer said, his loss.

Wasalaam

~Sarah
 

Abdul Hasib

Student of Knowledge
^Exactly brother Zak, and the images they see of "Jesus" is just an evil Shaytaan (Evil Jinn) who does that just to make people do Shirk and accept what's wrong. But the Shaytaans and Iblees just give and promise things to people, they don't control their body and mind, it's the people who don't let their Eman take over what they fel in their nafs or anything.

People, especially young Muslims, need to be educated. They only know the stupid worldly things.

Ask them their favorite singers, and they'll go down the list. Two Pak, Akon, P Diddy, etc, but ask them who's their favorite QURAN RECIOR, and they'll say no one.

Ask them about who's their favorite celebrity, they'll go down the lsit. ASk them the names of the famous Sahabi and they don't know any.
 

BrotherZak

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Salaam,

He was a critic of Islam but also states he didn't know much about the religion? How can he be takens eriously then? That's like me stating I don't believe in gravity and not even undestanding the basics of physics. Like brother Bluegazer said, his loss.

Wasalaam

~Sarah


True. Its funny how its plastered over cnn and the Pope probably loved it. however in 17 years or in 2025 Islam is projected to be the number one religion in the world comprising of 30 percent of the world population.
 

BrotherZak

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^Exactly brother Zak, and the images they see of "Jesus" is just an evil Shaytaan (Evil Jinn) who does that just to make people do Shirk and accept what's wrong. But the Shaytaans and Iblees just give and promise things to people, they don't control their body and mind, it's the people who don't let their Eman take over what they fel in their nafs or anything.

People, especially young Muslims, need to be educated. They only know the stupid worldly things.

Ask them their favorite singers, and they'll go down the list. Two Pak, Akon, P Diddy, etc, but ask them who's their favorite QURAN RECIOR, and they'll say no one.

Ask them about who's their favorite celebrity, they'll go down the lsit. ASk them the names of the famous Sahabi and they don't know any.



Good point.

Just to add to that the missionaries have realized that the masses of Muslim will not accept their arguments for Christ or for the trinity or for the very fundamental message of Christianity. They've tried for a 1000 years only to be met by refutations and long arguments. They've sent thousands of orientalist to study Islam, publish thousands of book on the subject yet Muslims still do not gravitate towards their perverted faith. In the last 30 years the Missionaries have changed their tactic to something more dangerous; deceit,trickery, and violence. Their focusing most of their efforts on the world third countries prying on the innocent and the vulnerable. Its disturbing that they give children bible alongside medication and food and build churches in the shapes of Mosques and shops with Arabic names and fake Quran. Desperation have officially kicked in.
 

Mohsin

abdu'Allah
Desperation have officially kicked in.
Spot on bro !
Pope looked so happy, as if he has finally found atleast one who agrees with him on what he said in Germany :wink:.

What can I say about the smart man who didnt knwo Islam and neither was he ever a practicing one.
But they have no knowledge thereof. They follow but conjecture, and verily, conjecture is no substitute for the truth. (28)
An-Najm
 

Abdul Hasib

Student of Knowledge
Yep. Even Disney does the same. Like I was watching this little kid movie about FAntasy and Imagination, when they started talking about God, the Bible, being damned to hell, Jesus, and otherstuff, and I was like, what the eff? Why are they gonna put these kinds of stuff in a kids show? Man Disney is just another Israel supporter and Christian company who wants to convert and destroy Muslims and Islam.
 
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