PURPOSE OF MESSIAH?

Karima

Junior Member
Asalamualikum,

Can anyone elaborate on the purpose of the 'coming Messiah'? Who is the Messiah?

Salam
 

Karima

Junior Member
Asalamualikum,

I read the above articles, and alhamdulillah for them for you to pass on to read.

Is this to mean that Jesus will be coming back to 'judge' us, or as a Messenger from God to declare what is 'right', as a reflection of what we have done or not done all along, and to allow Jesus, also to separate the evil from good?

To me, God is the judge of all.....

Forgive me for not having a 'clear' concept of this matter. Which is why I asked about something that I have taken for granted, but never really understood as a serious part of what is to come for all of us.

Salam
 

Praise2Allah

Junior Member
Salam alaikom. The MEssiah was/is Jesus, hence he is called Christ which means MEssiah. He will come back to guide us and teach us as a prophet, not judge, onle God judges =)
 

Karima

Junior Member
Asalamualikum,

Then what was the purpose of Jesus in the first place? He came, showed the people what God wished for each of us to live, then God raised Jesus up to him. Next, came the comfortor....the Prophet Muhammad. A guide for us came through the form of the Qur'an.

And Jesus is to come back, again, and teach what he came to do the first time? I am not trying to make light of this, but it seems like a yo-yo of prophets being chosen by God for us to clearly understand what God wants from us. Back and forth....in this case of Jesus the Messiah.

The Qur'an has clearly been the instruction for us to follow.

Can the purpose of Jesus coming back as the Messiah be necessary? What is the purpose for this to happen? This is still a serious question for me.

Salam
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
Assalamu Alaykum,

Isa will carry on from the Prophet Muhammd :saw:. He will Not Teach anything New. Rather, he will teach according to Islam, as the Prophet Muhammad :saw:
taught. Isa will be the leader of all the Muslims.

InshaAllah, I will try find some evidence and more information for you, right now, I must go and pray! :p

Wasalam
 

abu-hassanah

New Member
Isa alahisalaam

Bismihi ta aalla
No Isa will Not come down as a nabi again,but as follower of the deen of islam.Remember after the Nabi (saw) there will be no other Prophet,and our Nabi (saw) was the last and final nabi
Isa will follow the deen of Islam and peace and justice will prevail
He will teach the people the deen our nabi has taught us.
if there is anything else ,feel free to ask
Jazakallah
(ps. i hate typing)
the slaying of dajaal is one of the reasons r why Allah has raised him to the heavens and send him back to this worl again,and it was the desire of Isa to be of the ummati of Nabi (saw)
 

Dawoodi

Junior Member
salam w

salam w

my Dear! seams to me you are doing quik asumptions regarding the purpose of the prophets asaw, an in particular the camming of Esa (as).

be careful this maybe cames from shaitan who is wispering douts in your head.

the message of Islam has always been the same and that has been the purpose of all the prophets to convey that message.

every time this message came exep for the message brougth by Mohammad asaw people currupted.

as u say islam its been perfected and the Quran its been perfected for all times!

the case with Esa as is diferent as he was protected from dead and Allah subhanah wata'allah had promese to send him back at the end of times so he could finish hhis earthly life and at the same time lead the army agains the evil dajjal (anticrist) and kill him. and restore peace on earth for a period of time.

just the fact that the message still now and its been protected dosen`t mean Esa as cant fulfil a role healping the ummah to be victorios at the end and to fulfil his prophesy as part of the grait plan of Allah subhanah wata'allah and his signs.

yes signs this is all about he is a sign of hope for the future and for those who whan to be save and a mercy for those who dont know, he will be calling to remember the true message as in all times dosent matter if the message still clear and protected there are people who are misgided.

at the end of the day we the beliver must have 100% faith in Allah subhanah wata'allah and his wisdon and cast douts out because they came from sheitan and weeken our Emman!

May Allah gide us all to the straight path and protect us from shaitan

amen!


salam w:shake:
 

Karima

Junior Member
Walaykumsalam,

be careful this maybe cames from shaitan who is wispering douts in your head.

Actually, not at all. I want the full meaning of this. Your post helped me to understand what the purpose of the 'coming' Messiah is.

I came to this thought out of my own 'ignorance' of the purpose. It was for the intention of understanding the whole picture of God's prophets for us on the earth....

When the Messiah comes, it will be a GRAND SIGN from Allah, that Allah IS, when Allah sends the Messiah back for the world to finish his purpose of Mercy on all who choose to follow him.

Salam
 

iniyan

New Member
asalamualikum
let Allah forgive me if iam wrong to the best of my knowledge from what i have heard and read ,by the will of Allah isa(AS) will decend down when the fithna of dajjal is at its maximum and he will defeat him, this "could"be the purpose but what ever it may be Allah knows the best.
 

faiz_fauzi

Junior Member
Assalamualaikum!

Prophet ISA A.S will come as the follower of our prophet Muhammad S.A.W.He will teach and follow the Glorious Quran and sunnah.He will not bring any new thoughts.He will be sent by ALLAH to help the muslims and kill the dajjal.He will have AL-Imamul Mahdi as his companion with his da'wah.The question is when this things gonna happen?I'm not sure bout this matter but he will rise when things get worse.Islam will be just a name and some kind of religion.Quran will just be a book.People will not practise islam anymore and very few people that practising islam entirely.

Hope this help!

JazakALLLAHU Khair!
 

Dawoodi

Junior Member
Walaykumsalam,



Actually, not at all. I want the full meaning of this. Your post helped me to understand what the purpose of the 'coming' Messiah is.

I came to this thought out of my own 'ignorance' of the purpose. It was for the intention of understanding the whole picture of God's prophets for us on the earth....

When the Messiah comes, it will be a GRAND SIGN from Allah, that Allah IS, when Allah sends the Messiah back for the world to finish his purpose of Mercy on all who choose to follow him.

Salam


salam w

MY dear sister in ISlam, i'm glad we were of help to you alhamdulillah.

but regarding my sugestion of been careful...it has all the basis on islam as is a well known sunnah we should be careful when douts about Allah subhanah wata'allah and his deen came to our hearts and minds

here is your stament wich seams wierd to me...i'm sorry to say that.

"it seems like a yo-yo of prophets being chosen by God for us to clearly understand what God wants from us. Back and forth....in this case of Jesus the Messiah."

what do u mean by that stament yo-yo of prophets? its this respectful? and since when sending prophets to diferent nations and times its a "yo-yo thing?

oviously this tipe of sugestions must came from sheitan he is the wisperer of all odd thoughts

salam walaikum w.
 

Karima

Junior Member
Asalamualikum,

The comments have been helpful. Thank you, Alhamdulillah.

and since when sending prophets to diferent nations and times its a "yo-yo thing

Putting it this way is more clear of the purpose of the Messiah returning to earth.

When I said, 'yo-yo', it was how I saw it....back and forth with Jesus coming to earth again... and not from 'sheitan', as a thought.

Please use discernment before accusing anyone of using evil. Allah knows all and sees all.....for sure, the intention of this forum was not any any form from what one so carelessly called otherwise.

Salam...
 

Dawoodi

Junior Member
ass salam walaikum w

Asalamualikum,

The comments have been helpful. Thank you, Alhamdulillah.



Putting it this way is more clear of the purpose of the Messiah returning to earth.

When I said, 'yo-yo', it was how I saw it....back and forth with Jesus coming to earth again... and not from 'sheitan', as a thought.

Please use discernment before accusing anyone of using evil. Allah knows all and sees all.....for sure, the intention of this forum was not any any form from what one so carelessly called otherwise.

Salam...

ass salam walaikum warrahmatulahi wabarakatuhu.

my Dear sister on Islam i'm sorry if u missunderstood what i said, i must clarified insha'allah.

but firt u must understand that i Love Allah ta'allah and all our prophets with all my heart and all my respect, so my heart hurst at any sign of minumal disrespectful comment.

but we all are due to made mistakes as we are humans beens.

first of all, i didnt say u were doing evil i just adviced u of been careful as sheitan put funy and wierd tought in our minds.... and i'm not saying just you.

because sheitan runs in our veins as the blood dose and when we put douts into the wisdon of Allah ta'allah this certanly cames from our ego or the wispering of sheitan.

I'm not saying u are evil nither the stament u made are, but certanly didnt seam apropiate for me at that time the tipe of description u made of the purpose of the prophets. as i belive we must be very respectful of Allah subhanah wata'allah and his wisdon thats all

so is a sencitive issue to made analogyes like this ones out of the blue.

so please accept my apologies if you feel ofended by my coment but u must belive i did it from the botton of my heart and with real good intentions-

every time i post a comment or a sugestion i'm not only doing it for others but specially for my self as we all muslims in iSLAM.

SALAM W.:SMILY126:
 
:salam2:

I listened this week to a conference done by the Imam of Makka : Abd Arahman Soudais. The imam said that when Isa (Jesus PBUH) will return to the earth he will do three things :

1. He will break the Cross ;
2. He will kill the pig (swin) ;
3. He will kill the Anti-Christ (false Messiah or Dajjal).

I know too that one of the first thing that Isa will do, is to pray behind a muslim imam.

Wa Allaho A'lam

:wasalam:
 

Child of GOD

Junior Member
WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAA..........UMMMMMMMMMM THATS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG ,THAT JESUS CHRIST IS THE MESSIAH AND OUR SAVIOUR, AND ALL THRU THE PAST MONTHS YOU ALL BEEN TELLING ME ITS MOHAMMED, NOW YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND AND SAY JESUS?, hellooooooooo,,, I HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT JESUS WAS THE MESSIAH AND I AM A CHRISTIAN,,NOW I'M TOTALLY CONFUSED AT WHAT YOU ALL BELIEVE
 

Dawoodi

Junior Member
u confuse?

hi child of God


we do belive Esa (as) to be the Messiah as we belive in all the prophets before him and in Muhammad asaw.

the main diference is that we dont belive that Esa (as) is "The son of God" nither God.

we dont make distincions betwin prophets they all fulfil diferent roles and came to diferent nations to covey the same message ISLAM submision to Allah.

here the main point is that Muhammad asaw was the las prophet and there will be no other prophet after him.


here is a link were u can learn what be belive about Allah ( unique GoD)

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2432

and here a link about Esa (as)

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4049

here is another good article : who deserves to be worshipped alone?

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=105

the one important for u insha'allah:

what is to be a Muslim?

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2426

bye
 

Muslimah77

Slave of Allah (SWT)
The return of Prophet Isa (PBUH)

:salam2:

Jesus (Isa) A.S. in Islam, and his Second Coming
By Mufti A.H. Elias


I. Jesus (A.S.) In Islam

Muslims do believe that Isa (A.S.) was sent down as a Prophet of Allah (God), but he (Jesus) is not God or Lord, nor the son of God. Muslims do not believe that Isa (A.S.), also known as Jesus by Christians and others, is dead or was ever crucified. We believe that he was raised to heaven and is there, and will descend at the appointed time, end all wars, and bring peace to the world. Like Jesus (A.S.), Muhammad (Peace be upon him) is also a Prophet and Messenger. Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) is the last Prophet, though, and there is none after him. Hence, Islam is the last religion, complete, with the Holy Qur'an as the unchanged and perfect word of God for over 1400 years, as God promised to preserve it till the last day for all of humankind, unlike sacred texts of other religions which have multiple versions and are "revised" periodically. God, or Allah in Arabic, is Divine and Supreme Being and Creator.

What the Holy Qur'an says about Jesus:

They slew him not, nor did they crucify him but it was made dubious to them.
(Holy Qur'an, Surah Nisaa, Verse 157)

Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) himself told of the coming of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him). In the Bible, Jesus (A.S.) says:

If you love me, Keep my commandments. And I will pray to the Father and He shall give you another comforter that he may abide with you forever.
(Bible, John 14-15/16)

But when the comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the spirit of Truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me, and he also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.
(Bible, John 15-26/27)

I have yet many things to say unto you, but you cannot bear them now. How be it when he, the spirit of Truth will come, he will guide you into all truth, for he shall speak not of himself, but whatsoever he shall hear, that he shall speak, and he will show you things to come. He shall glorify me, for he shall receive of mine, and he shall show it unto you.
(Bible, John 16-12/14)

Ulema (learned scholars in Islam) have said that the person who is described by Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) to come after him - in the above verse - does not comply with any other person but Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him).

In this case, the "comforter" he mentions is none other than Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) and his laws and way of life (Shariah) and Book (Holy Qur'an) are those that Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) asks his followers to abide by.

The "person" whom Jesus (A.S.) prophesised will come after him, is called Pargaleeta in the Bible . This word was deleted by interpreters and translators and changed at times to "Spirit of Truth" and at other times, to "comforter" and sometimes "Holy Spirit." The original Greek and its meaning is "one whom people praise exceedingly." The sense of the word, then, is applicable to the word Muhammad in Arabic, since Muhammad means "the praised one."

Jesus (A.S.) also says in the Bible:

... and a little while and you shall not see me; and again a little while, you shall see me because I go to the Father.
(Bible, John 16:16)

... and the Holy Qur'an says:

And surely they slew him not. But Allah (God) raised him unto Himself.
(Holy Qur'an, Surah Nisaa, Verse 157-158)

As such, Muslims believe that Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) was raised to heaven. According to Hadith, he is on the second heaven. Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) mentioned, "During the Meraj (Ascension), I met Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) on the second heaven. I found him of medium stature, reddish white. His body was so clean and clear, that it appeared as though he had just performed ghusal (ablution, cleansing of the entire body) and calm." In another Hadith, Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) mentioned to the Jews that, " Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) is not dead, he will most surely return to you before Qiyamat (the Day of Judgement)."

May Allah Guide all people to the Truth. Ameen.

II. Hadhrat Isa's (A.S.) Descension - The Physical Features of Hadhrat Isa (A.S.)

He will resemble the famous Sahabi (A.S.) Hadhrat Urwa bin Masoodi (R.A.). He will be of average height and red and white in colour. His hair spread to the shoulders, straight, neat and shining as after a bath. On bending his head, it will seem as if pearls are falling. He will have an armour on his body. He will be wearing two pieces of cloth light yellow in colour.

His Descension

He will descend on a Jamaat (group) that will be righteous at the time and comprising of 800 men and 400 women. The people will be preparing for war at the time against Dajjal (the anti-Christ). It will be time for Fajr prayers, and Imam Mahdi will be the Amir (leader). From the darkness of the dawn, a sound will suddenly be heard that "one who listens to your pleas has come" -- the righteous people will look everywhere and their eyes will fall on Isa (A.S.). Briefly, at the time of Fajr, Isa (A.S.) will descend. When descending, Isa (A.S.)'s hands will be on the shoulders of two angels (according to another source (Kab Abrar), a cloud will carry him). On their insistence Hadhrat Isa will introduce himself. He will inquire about their enthusiasm and thoughts on Jihad against Dajjal. Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) will descend on the eastern side near the Minaret in Damascus (or in Baitul-Muqaddus by Imam Mahdi). At the time Imam Mahdi will have proceeded forward to lead the Fajr Salaat. The Iqamat of the Salaat would have been said (already recited) and Imam Mahdi will call Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) for Imamat (to lead the prayer), but he (Hadhrat Isa (A.S.)) will instead tell Imam Mahdi to lead the prayer since the Iqamat of that Salaat has already been said for him. Thus Imam Mahdi will lead the prayer, and Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) will follow him. After the ruku, he will make this statement: "Allah has killed Dajjal and the Muslims have appeared."

The Killing of Dajjal (anti-Christ) and the Victory of the Muslims

After the completion of Fajr Salaat (congregational dawn prayers), Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) will open the door behind him where Dajjal accompanied by 70,000 Yahudis (Jews) will be. He will indicate with his hand to move away between him (Hadhrat Isa (A.S.)) and Dajjal. Dajjal will then see Hadhrat Isa (A.S.). At that time every Kafir on whom the breath of Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) will reach, will die. His breath will reach up to the distance of his eyesight. The Muslims will then come down from the mountains and break loose on the army of Dajjal. There will be war, Dajjal will retreat, and Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) will pursue Dajjal. Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) will have two flexible swords and one shield with him and with these he will kill Dajjal at the Gate of Hudd. He will show the Muslims the blood of Dajjal which will get on his shield. Eventually the Yahudis will be selected and killed. The swine will be killed and the cross broken. People will revert to Islam. Wars will end, and people will return to their respective countries. One Jamaat (group) of Muslims will remain in his service and companionship.

Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) will go to Fajr Rawha and perform Hajj or Umrah (or both) from there. He will also go to the grave of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) and present his greetings and Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) will reply. People will live comfortable lives. The wall of Ya’juj and Ma’juj (Gog and Magog) will then break.

III. The Blessings of Hadhrat Isa (Jesus) (A.S.)

1 Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) will descend and stay on earth.
2 His descension will be in the last era of the Ummat.
3 He will be a just ruler and a fair judge.
4 His ummat will be the Khalifa (deputies) of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam).
5 He will act himself and instruct others on the Qur'an and Hadith (Shariat/Tradition of Islam).
6 He will lead people in Salaat (Prayer).
7 He will stay on earth for a period of 40 years after descending. The will be the best era of the Ummat after the first era of Islam.
8 Allah will protect his companions from Jahannam.
9 Those who will save the Deen of Islam by associating themselves with Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) will be amongst the most loved by Allah Ta'ala.
10 During this period all other religions and mazhabs besides Islam will perish, hence there will be no kuffaars (non-believers) in the world.
11 Jihad will be stopped.
12 No Khiraaj will be taken.
13 Nor Jizya (protection tax) money from the kafirs (non-believers)
14 Wealth and property will be in surplus to such an extent that there will be no one to accept the wealth of the other (everyone will be independent).
15 Receiving Zakaat (Alms-giving, Charity to poor) and Saadaqa will be discarded (as there will be no poor to receive them!).
16 The people will love the sajda (prostration to God) more than the world and what it consists of.
17 All types of Deeni (religious) and worldly blessings will descend on earth (many halaal (lawful) things will be created).
18 There will be peace, harmony and tranquility during the time of Hadhrat Isa (A.S.)'s stay in the world.
19 There will be no animosity for a period of seven years, even between two persons.
20 All hearts will be free from miserliness, envy, hatred, malice and jealousy.
21 For a period of forty years no one will fall ill or die.
22 Venom will be taken out of all venomous animals.
23 Snakes and scorpions will not harm anyone to the extent that if a child put his hand in its mouth, he will not be harmed.
24 Will animals will not harm anyone.
25 If a man will pass a lion, he will not be troubled or harmed, or even if any girl will open its mouth to test if it will do anything.
26 The camels will graze among lions, cheetahs with cattle and the jackals with goats.
27 The fertility of the land will increase to such an extent that even if a seed is planted in a hard rock, it will sprout.
28 A pomegranate will be so huge that a jamaat will be able to eat it and the people will use its peel as shade.
29 There will be so much barakaat (blessing) in milk that a camel will suffice for a huge jamaat, a cow for a tribe and a goat for a family.
30 In short, life will be most pleasant after the descension of Jesus (A.S.).

His Marriage, Death and Deputies

After his descension on earth, Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) will marry. He will have children, and he will remain on earth 19 years after marriage. He will pass away and Muslims will perform his Janaza Salaat and bury him next to Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam). (Tirmidhi)

From: Hadhrat Esa (Alaihis Salaam): The Truth Revealed and Major Signs of Qiyamat - by Mufti Afzal Hoosein Elias (May Allah reward him for his work in producing these kitaabs, Ameen.)

From the original (with references): "Aalalaat-e-Qiyyamat aur Nuzul-e-Eesa."
 

Karima

Junior Member
Asalamualikum,

All of these responses 'posts' have been more than I could ever expect. Thank each of you for the information about the coming Messiah.

so please accept my apologies if you feel ofended by my coment but u must belive i did it from the botton of my heart and with real good intentions-

every time i post a comment or a sugestion i'm not only doing it for others but specially for my self as we all muslims in iSLAM.

Yes, I accept your kindness, apologies, and good intentions. Thank you for being understanding of how we both took things in different ways. The prophets are very important from God/Allah for us to learn from, and not to make small talk about. I agree with you about helping to keep the positive thoughts about Islam for others. I would do the same...on behalf of fellow believers.

None of us are immune to mis-understandings. We each seem to try to help each other when forums and posts are here at our disposal to read and learn from.

MashaAllah, for all the good that has come from the question that I was really concerned about.

Salam
 
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