Question about halal meat

[slaveofAllah88]

:salam2:

Alhumdulilah im a muslim, i live in Canada i have several non-muslim friends here and they question about halal meat from time to time ... why do muslims eat halal food, and i tell them muslims dedicate the slaughter of the animal to Allah (swt) but they always counter question but your killing the animal for the same purpose as us basically to eat them then wats the big difference between halal and haram. Can someone please explain the concept of halal to further my knowledge and also allow me to answer my non-muslim friends in a easy and simple way?
Thank You very much
:salam2:

 

[ShyHijabi]

Salaam,

What I am about to say is strictly pesonal opinion but maybe it will give some insight. Muslims are commanded to raise animals for slaughter in a very specific way We must be kind to the animals and insure their lives are easy and not filled with suffering. They are to be kept in comfortable courters (not in tiny cages) and have their sicknesses and wounds treated. Whent he time comes for slaughter the animal is to be kept in calm and never allowed to see another animal killed in front of it. Even during slaughter we submit to the will of Allah and sacrifice the animal in His name.

Intention is a huge part of our religion. If you have ever been to a nonMuslim slaughter house (and I have) you would be truly appalled at how horribly the animals are treated. Their lives are filled with pain and suffering and their slaughter is agony. The slaughter houses do not care nor have intention to do right by the animals. Islam insures that the animal will have a pleasant life and a quick, virtually painless death. So that is a BIG difference between halaal meat and non-Halaal meat.

Wasalaam

~Sarah

 

[amirah80]

:salam2:

The difference between halal and haram meat is the way it is slaughtered. In most non muslims countries the way they slaughter the meat is haram. You cannot shoot, choke, hit, or electrocute the animal. Also, the animal cannot be dead and then slaughtered. Halal meat is done by the laws of Shariah. The name of Allah is mentioned.The animals neck should be cut with a extremely sharp knife to decrease pain and make it quick without the animal suffering. Also, The blood is drained from the animal after the neck is cut. If the blood it not drained this is haram. Blood is forbidden to eat (5:3) In If another name is mentioned when slaughtered besides Allah then this meat is haram. Example saying In Jesus Name

*edit* You cannot shoot, choke, hit or electrocute the animal causing its death. Then after it is dead slaughter it to eat. The neck needs to be cut while the animal is still alive. Inshallah that clairifies my statement.

 

[q8penpals]

:salam2:

The difference between halal and haram meat is the way it is slaughtered. In most non muslims countries the way they slaughter the meat is haram. You cannot shoot, choke, hit, or electrocute the animal. Also, the animal cannot be dead and then slaughtered. Halal meat is done by the laws of Shariah. The name of Allah is mentioned.The animals neck should be cut with a extremely sharp knife to decrease pain and make it quick without the animal suffering. Also, The blood is drained from the animal after the neck is cut. If the blood it not drained this is haram. Blood is forbidden to eat (5:3) In If another name is mentioned when slaughtered besides Allah then this meat is haram. Example saying In Jesus Name

Assalam aliekum

How do people who have to hunt animals for food make the meat halal? I mean, you can't chase down and catch a dear or turkey or elk, etc, and just slit it's throat. One has to shoot it with either a gun or bow and arrow (or for small animals, by a trap).

What rulings are there for hunting animals?

Lana

 

[Abel213]

-lots of wrong info here-

 

[q8penpals]

Assalam aliekum

Well, my entire family hunts for food, not for sport. Do you have any supporting hadiths or actual rulings for saying hunting is not allowed?

Lana

 

[Abel213]

Assalam aliekum

Well, my entire family hunts for food, not for sport. Do you have any supporting hadiths or actual rulings for saying hunting is not allowed?

Lana

Actually sis I think you are correct about hunting. I will provide hadiths to support



I made a big mistake, eating game meat is halal! Sorry about that

Book 021, Number 4732:
'Adi b. Hatim reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, I set off trained dogs and they catch for me (the game) and I recite the came of Allah over it (I slaughter the game by reciting Bismillah-i-Allah-o-Akbar), whereupon he said: When you set off your trained dogs and you recited the name of Allah (while setting them off), then eat (the game). I said: Even if them (the trained dogs) kill that (the game)? He (the Holy Prophet) said: Even if these kill, but (on the condition) that no other dog, which you did not set off (along with your dogs), participates (in catching the game). I said to him: I throw Mi'rad, a heavy featherless blunt arrow, for hunting and killing (the game). Thereupon he said: When you throw Mi'rad, and it pierces, then eat, but if it falls flatly (and beats the game to death), then do not eat that.


Narrated Adi bin Hatim:

I asked the Prophet about the game killed by a Mi'rad (i.e. a sharp-edged piece of wood or a piece of wood provided with a sharp piece of iron used for hunting). He said, "If the game is killed with its sharp edge, eat of it, but if it is killed with its shaft, with a hit by its broad side then the game is (unlawful to eat) for it has been beaten to death." I asked him about the game killed by a trained hound. He said, "If the hound catches the game for you, eat of it, for killing the game by the hound, is like its slaughtering. But if you see with your hound or hounds another dog, and you are afraid that it might have shared in hunting the game with your hound and killed it, then you should not eat of it, because you have mentioned Allah's name on (sending) your hound only, but you have not mentioned it on some other hound

 

[slaveofAllah88]

Thank You brothers and sister especially "ShyHijabi" your answer provided me with good details

 

[mymohsin]

Salamalaykum,

As for the main Question sister Shi hijab and Sister Amria has already answered is it. The Islamic way of slaughter is the way in which most of the blood is drain out from the body of animal, the contrast of its arm is the proof that the blood is coming from that part and flow of blood is reduced in that part. the contast arms/legs are not for pain its because of blood flowing out. this is to what my lil knowledge and understand rest Allah knows the best please do correct and forgive me if i m wrong for the sake of Allah.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 67, Number 384:

Narrated Adi bin Hatim:

I asked the Prophet about the game killed by a Mi'rad (i.e. a sharp-edged piece of wood or a piece of wood provided with a sharp piece of iron used for hunting). He said, "If the game is killed with its sharp edge, eat of it, but if it is killed with its shaft, with a hit by its broad side then the game is (unlawful to eat) for it has been beaten to death." I asked him about the game killed by a trained hound. He said, "If the hound catches the game for you, eat of it, for killing the game by the hound, is like its slaughtering. But if you see with your hound or hounds another dog, and you are afraid that it might have shared in hunting the game with your hound and killed it, then you should not eat of it, because you have mentioned Allah's name on (sending) your hound only, but you have not mentioned it on some other hound


Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 67, Number 385:
Narrated 'Adi bin Hatim:

I asked Allah's Apostle about the Mi'rad. He said, "If you hit the game with its sharp edge, eat it, but if the Mi'rad hits the game with its shaft with a hit by its broad side do not eat it, for it has been beaten to death with a piece of wood. (i.e. unlawful)." I asked, "If I let loose my trained hound after a game?" He said, "If you let loose your trained hound after game, and mention the name of Allah, then you can eat." I said, "If the hound eats of the game?" He said "Then you should not eat of it, for the hound has hunted the game for itself and not for you." I said, "Some times I send my hound and then I find some other hound with it?" He said "Don't eat the game, as you have mentioned the Name of Allah on your dog only and not on the other."


Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 67, Number 386:
Narrated Adi bin Hatim:

I said, "O Allah's Apostle! We let loose our trained hounds after a game?" He said, "Eat what they hunt for you." I said, "Even if they killed (the game)?" He replied, 'Even if they killed (the game)." I said, 'We also hit (the game) with the Mi'rad?" He said, "Eat of the animal which the Mi'rad kills by piercing its body, but do not eat of the animal which is killed by the broad side of the Mi'rad.''


Allah Hafiz.

 

[TheHumbleWun]

Salaam,

I once read that the animal when slaughtered has to face the Mecca as well. Can someone verify & validate this.

Another thing when slaughtering an animal is that you blind fold it so it doesn't see the sharp knife. This is the level of dignity we show to the animal.

Since we're allowed to eat Kosher - sister Shyhijabi do you know what the Jewish process is? Is it similar to Islamic slaughtering?

 

[abu'muhammad]

:salam2:

Alhumdulilah im a muslim, i live in Canada i have several non-muslim friends here and they question about halal meat from time to time ... why do muslims eat halal food, and i tell them muslims dedicate the slaughter of the animal to Allah (swt) but they always counter question but your killing the animal for the same purpose as us basically to eat them then wats the big difference between halal and haram. Can someone please explain the concept of halal to further my knowledge and also allow me to answer my non-muslim friends in a easy and simple way?
Thank You very much
:salam2:

[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=+1]THE FOOD (MEAT) OF AHLUL KITAB [/SIZE][/FONT]

[SIZE=-1]By Dr. Jaafar Al-Quaderi [/SIZE]​

All praise is to ALLAH, and the peace and blessings of ALLAH are sent to the Prophet Muhammad, salla ALLAHu alaihi wa sallam, Sayyid of the Messengers and on his family and the Sahaba and those who follow their guidance until the Day of Judgement.
These days, it has become common for Muslim communities to de-emphasize food to the point that many are observed eating in restaurants or fast food establishments, indulging in foods that should be avoided. Even more bizarre is that if these same Muslims were back in their home countries, they would accept the decisions of the government officials or Islamic organizations in those Muslim countries to decide for them what is Halal and what is not. In non-Muslim countries, they don't seem to take things as seriously as required. Don't the Islamic rules apply in the non-Muslim West? Or do the Islamic rules change from place to place? Or is it simply a written law, which need not be followed? This is what we see and hear, but ALLAH, Subhanahu wa ta'ala, ordained for us a specific way of life and encouraged Muslim believers by saying:

O you who believe! Eat of the good things that WE have provided for you and be grateful to ALLAH, if it is HIM you worship. (Al-Baqara: 172)


In fact, ALLAH, Subhanahu wa ta'ala, did not limit HIS instructions to the believers alone. HE also instructed all HIS Messengers, alaihim assalaam, to:

O you messengers! Enjoy (all) things good and pure, and work righteousness: for I am well acquainted with (all) that you do.
(Al Mu-minun: 51)


The Arabic word Tayyibaat here, translated as 'good and pure', is a general and all-encompassing word about all foods, including meats, grains, fruits and vegetables, etc. However, when ALLAH, Subhanahu wa ta'ala, discussed meat, HE was exact in instructing us to pronounce HIS name on the meat, as follows:

So eat of (meats) on which ALLAH's name has been pronounced, if you have faith in HIS Signs. (Al-An'aam: 118) ALLAH, Subhanahu wa ta'ala, did not instruct us to pronounce HIS name when HE spoke about foods in general. He instructed us to "eat of the Tayyibaat (good and pure)" foods. Then ALLAH, Subhanahu wa ta'ala, addressed us by asking:

Why should you not eat of (meats) on which ALLAH's name has been pronounced, when HE has explained to you in detail what is forbidden to you, except under compulsion of necessity? But many do mislead (men) by their appetites unchecked by knowledge. The Lord knows best those who transgress. (Al-An'aam: 119)


Then ALLAH, Subhanahu wa ta'ala, forbade us from eating meat upon which HIS name has not been pronounced, by saying:

Eat not of (meats) on which ALLAH's name has not been pronounced: that would be impiety. But the evil ones ever inspire their friends to contend with you if you were to obey them, you would indeed be Pagans. (Al-An'aam: 121)

In interpreting this aya, Imam Al-Fakhr Al-Razi said, it has been related that 'Ata had said: all food and drink upon which ALLAH's name has not been pronounced is haram (forbidden), based on the guidance of this aya.

However, all the other scholars agreed that this aya was specific to meat only. Imam Al-Razi used the opinions of 3 schools of thought to explain this aya. The first is that of Imam Malik, which states that the meat from any slaughter upon which ALLAH's name is not pronounced is haram, regardless of whether it is intentional or by error. Ibn Sirin and a group of theologists agree with this viewpoint.

The second is that of Imam Abu Hanifa, which states that the meat from any slaughter where the name of ALLAH is intentionally not pronounced is haram. If the slaughterman forgets to pronounce the name of ALLAH at slaughter, then the meat is Halal. The third is that of Imam Al-Shafi'i, which states that the animal carcass is Halal, even if the name of ALLAH is not pronounced at the time of slaughter, regardless of whether it is intentional or forgotten, as long as the slaughterman is a qualified person, i.e., a sane Muslim. And after a long discussion on this final opinion, Imam Al-Razi said (this is important for us) it is best for a Muslim to avoid eating meat from animals when ALLAH's name has not been pronounced at slaughter, because the guidance from this aya is strong. This means Muslims should avoid meats slaughtered without the pronouncing of the name of ALLAH at the time of slaughter.


source : http://www.ifanca.org/newsletter/2000_09.htm

 

[ShyHijabi]

Since we're allowed to eat Kosher - sister Shyhijabi do you know what the Jewish process is? Is it similar to Islamic slaughtering?

Salaam,

Kosher slaughter is almost identical to halaal slaughter. The animal's throat is slit and the person salughtering the animal says a prayer. (I am not sure what words are actually spoken) The blood must be drained from the animal and the meat must be kept in a clean manner. You aren't permitted to mix it with unclean animals and such or else it becomes disallowed.

 

[naeemt]

Without animal protein, we would not exist. If not us, our ancestors imperatively had to eat meat. Allah recognizes that, and therefore has given us a method to spiritually purify the cow.

 

[amirah80]

Assalam aliekum

How do people who have to hunt animals for food make the meat halal? I mean, you can't chase down and catch a dear or turkey or elk, etc, and just slit it's throat. One has to shoot it with either a gun or bow and arrow (or for small animals, by a trap).

What rulings are there for hunting animals?

Lana

Salam Sister

I answered the question as if the animal was already caught because some people actually shoot the animal until it is dead after the animal is already captured and then go to slaughter it which is not permissable. (one butcher in the USA told me thats how they do it) Hunting is permissable to shoot the animal but before it dies it needs to slaughtered (neck cut). If its not slaughtered prior to its death than that meat is not allowed. Larger animals that are wild a example large deer etc can be shot but not the smaller animals that can be caught that cannot run away or fly. If you do shoot a animal that can be caught and slaughtered without shooting it then its meat is not halal. Some people actually shoot animals regardless whether they are large or small because shooting is a easier way. So of course I do not think someone will run behind a large deer and catch it.lol I apologize for the misunderstanding. For the other examples in the previous quote if the animals dies as a result of that before slaughtering there meat is not halal Inshallah that clarifies better.

Salam Amirah80

 

[amirah80]

Assalam aliekum

What rulings are there for hunting animals?

Lana

Salam Alaikum

Here are the rules below:

Slaughtering and Hunting of Animals

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2592. * If an animal whose meat is halal to eat, is slaughtered in the manner which will be described later, irrespective of whether it is domesticated or not, its meat becomes halal and its body becomes Pak after it has died. But camels, fish and locust become halal without their heads being slaughtered, as will be explained later.

2593. If a wild animal like deer, partridge and wild goat whose meat is halal to eat, or a halal animal which was a domestic one but turned wild later, like, a cow or a camel which runs away and becomes wild, is hunted in accordance with the laws which will be explained later, it is Pak and halal to eat. But, a domestic animal like sheep and fowl whose meat is halal to eat, or tamed wild animal whose meat is halal to eat does not become Pak and halal by hunting.

2594. A wild animal whose meat is halal to eat becomes Pak and halal to eat by hunting if it is capable of running away or flying. Based on this, the young one of a deer which cannot run away, and the young one of a partridge which cannot fly, do not become Pak and halal to eat by hunting. And if a deer and its young one which cannot run are hunted with one bullet, the deer will be halal but its young one will be haraam to eat.

2595. If an animal like fish, whose meat is halal to eat and whose blood does not gush, dies a natural death, it is Pak but its meat cannot be eaten.

2596. The dead body of an animal whose meat is haraam to eat, and whose blood does not gush, like, a snake, is Pak but does not become halal by slaughtering.

2597. * Dogs and pigs do not become Pak by slaughtering and hunting and it is also haraam to eat their meat. And if a flesh-eating animal like wolf and leopard is slaughtered in the manner which will be mentioned later, or is hunted by means of bullet etc. it is Pak, but its meat does not become halal for consumption. And if it is hunted down by a hunting dog, then its body cannot be considered as Pak.

2598. Elephant, bear, monkey are classified as predators. But the insects or the small animals who live in the holes, like, mice, lizards, if they have gushing blood, their meat and skin will not be considered Pak if they are slaughtered or hunted down.

2599. If a dead young is born from the body of a living animal, or is brought out of it, it is haraam to eat its meat.

Method of Slaughtering Animals
2600. * The method of slaughtering an animal is that the four main arteries of its neck should be completely cut (jugular artery, foodpipe, jugular vein and windpipe). It is not sufficient to split open these arteries or to cut off the neck. And the cutting of these four main arteries becomes practical when the cutting takes place from below the knot of the throat.

2601. If a person cuts some of the four arteries and waits till the animal dies and then cuts the remaining arteries, it will be of no use. If the four arteries are cut before the animal dies, but the cutting was not continuous as is usually done, the animal is Pak and halal to eat. However, the recommended precaution is that they should be cut in continuous succession.

2602. * If a wolf tears off the throat of a sheep in such a way that nothing remains of the four arteries which could be cut for slaughter, the sheep becomes haraam. Similarly, it will be haraam if nothing remains of its gullet. In fact, if its neck is torn open by the wolf leaving arteries connected with the head or the body, as a precaution, it will be haraam. But if the sheep is bitten on other part of the body, and it remains alive, it will be Pak and halal if slaughtered according to the rules which will be described later.

Conditions of Slaughtering Animals
2603. * There are certain conditions for the slaughtering of an animal. They are as follows:-

(i) A person, a man or a woman, who slaughters an animal must be a Muslim. An animal can also be slaughtered by a Muslim child who is mature enough to distinguish between good and bad, but not by non-Muslims other than Ahle Kitab, or a person belonging to those sects who are classified as Kafir, like, Nawasib - the enemies of Ahlul Bait (A.S.). In fact, even if Ahle Kitab non-Muslim slaughters an animal, as per precaution, it will not be halal, even if he utters 'Bismillah'.

(ii) The animal should be slaughtered with a weapon made of iron. However, if an implement made of iron is not available, it should be slaughtered with a sharp object like glass or stone, so that the four veins are severed, even if the slaughtering may not be necessary, like when the animal is on the verge of death.

(iii) When an animal is slaughtered, it should be facing Qibla. If the animal is sitting or standing, then facing Qibla would be like a man standing towards Qibla while praying. And if it is lying on its right or left side, then its neck and stomach should be facing Qibla. It is not necessary that its legs, hands and face be towards Qibla. If a person who knows the rule, purposely ignores placing the animal towards Qibla, the animal would become haraam; but if he forgets or does not know the rule, or makes a mistake in ascertaining the Qibla, or does not know the direction of Qibla, or is unable to turn the animal towards Qibla, there is no objection. As a recommended precaution, the person slaughtering should also face Qibla.

(iv) When a person wants to slaughter an animal, just as he makes the Niyyat to slaughter, he should utter the name of Allah, and it suffices if he says 'Bismillah' only, or if he utters 'Allah'. But if he utters the name of Allah without the intention of slaughtering the animal, the slaughtered animal does not become Pak and it is also haraam to eat its meat. And if he did not utter the name of Allah forgetfully, there is no objection.

(v) The animal should show some movement after being slaughtered; at least it should move its eyes or tail or strike its foot on the ground.This law applies only when it is doubtful whether or not the animal was alive at the time of being slaughtered, otherwise it is not essential.

(vi) It is necessary that the blood should flow in normal quantity from the slaughtered animal. If someone blocks the vein, not allowing blood to flow out, or if the bleeding is less than normal, that animal will not be halal. But if the blood which flows is less because the animal bled profusely before the slaughter, there is no objection.

(vii) The animal should be slaughtered from its proper place of slaughtering; on the basis of recommended precaution, the neck should be cut from its front, and the knife should be used from the back of the neck.

2604. * As a precaution, it is not permissible to sever the head of the animal from its body before it has died, though this would not make the animal haraam. But if the head gets severed because of sharpness of the knife, or not being attentive, there is no objection. Similarly, it is not permissible to slit open the neck and cut the spinal cord before the animal has died.

Source al-islam

 

[amirah80]

Salaam,

I once read that the animal when slaughtered has to face the Mecca as well. Can someone verify & validate this.

Salam Alaikum

When an animal is slaughtered, it should be facing Qibla. If the animal is sitting or standing, then facing Qibla would be like a man standing towards Qibla while praying. And if it is lying on its right or left side, then its neck and stomach should be facing Qibla. It is not necessary that its legs, hands and face be towards Qibla. If a person who knows the rule, purposely ignores placing the animal towards Qibla, the animal would become haraam; but if he forgets or does not know the rule, or makes a mistake in ascertaining the Qibla, or does not know the direction of Qibla, or is unable to turn the animal towards Qibla, there is no objection. As a recommended precaution, the person slaughtering should also face Qibla.

Source Al-Islam