right hand possession...help me understand

hambaAllah

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dna1987 What happens if the enemy attack Muslims, somehow win (eg. US in Iraq) and take Muslim women as captives?

Can we ask for them back?


For me lots of :salah: :tti_sister: :salah: :tti_sister: :salah: :tti_sister: and:SMILY23::SMILY23::SMILY23: May Allah swt protects all those men and women captives,,, give them strength throughout the test :SMILY23::SMILY23::SMILY23:

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Globalpeace

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Asslamo Allaikum Brother,

Many of us on this forum have grown up in the West and have inadvertently taken certain values to heart without ever questioning the validity or reason of them.
Most of us have extensive experience with girlfriends so don’t worry about it! :)

The ‘negative' connotations in the reply were not posted to make you feel bad about yourself, rather they were given to make you (and many others) broaden the horizons and look BEYOND conventional wisdom and norms.
We, as humans in general and Muslims in particular must thoroughly evaluate the accepted norms of the society i.e. we mustn’t be either partisaned or biased!

As previously stated that the issue of taking slaves was thoroughly discussed in the 80’s during Afghan-Russian war and no slaves were taken and it was the opinion of majority of the Scholars of Muslims that “conditions “weren’t fulfilled.

Now, I am not knowledgeable enough to categorically state what the conditions are; nevertheless taking slaves is permissible in Islam and it is not a simple matter of taking a woman and cohabiting with her! You can’t cohabit with a slave girl if her husband is around!

Please read the following article and provide us with some feedback.


http://www.islamicawakening.com/viewarticle.php?articleID=1296&

Lastly it is only natural to feel the way that you have described, don’t worry about it; and keep the questions coming, Insha’Allah.

i cant reply to all but i am very happy for all the responses.
many of you provided a lot of good insight and tons of links to more.

many of you sound very offended that i misunderstand the whole thing.

personally i don't think anyone should be offended.

i am a Muslim...and i know this will be understood with the right reasoning and guidance..that is why i asked the question..and that is why i asked the question to you guys.

so lets not get heated and defensive.
you don't have to defend anything.

i am a Muslim

i want to be able to defend Islam to those who do not believe and those who want us to look like we are an evil people....and trust me we have a lot of proving to do because the majority of Americans.. don't trust Islam.

we are not entirely to blame but i think we need to help them understand us.

so please gently help me understand this. because i see things from both sides.

and please realize this is something i grew up not even having to think about.

i grew up in the west of the united states, in a very liberal city(boulder, Colorado) and for me to even conceptualize four wives is very hard. none the less intercourse with slaves. let alone slaves at all.

on the other hand i grew up having girlfriends and my father encouraged it.
i was told it was healthy.
i don't think my father is a bad person or evil in anyway. nor do i think i was a bad person or evil because of it. just very misguided.

thank god i am now a Muslim,

think about how hard it is for people to shed the negative parts of their culture in order to please allah.

whether it be Pakistani/Indian or Persian, kazak,indonesian, or whatever.

its even harder to come from a culture that doesn't even know what Islam is.

my faith is true but there are just some barriers i haven't been able to overcome. and i am only trying to educate myself

all i am saying is please don't try to make me contradict myself

it isn't fair, and i know where your going

some of you act as if i should know what you tell me before i hear it.
but i mentioned initially that the only resources i found were people stating the negative things about it and people reluctantly defending it.

thanks again

i look forward to being a part of your community
 
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