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    Salam alaykum

    I wish that site admin would have time to take care about scammer problem in salamyou. There are "members" whose spam inappropriate posts, ask contact to their emails and add dirty images of females as their avatars.

    Kind of members are yahayaraa and lucyy.

    I have of course also reported their posts.

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    There are other Non Muslim users who are very abusive on Salamyou and say ridiculous things about Islam and the Prophet Muhammad (SAW). Not acting on their assaults on Islam will only encourage them to vilify the Prophet (SAW) more and may make it appear we will not respond no matter how much or how terrible their remarks are.

    It is one thing to allow users to have freedom of speech, it is quite another to defame the Messenger of Allah and even more worrying that we are not defending the honour of the Prophet (SAW) himself when we claim to be his followers and 'Muslims' who take him as our primary guide and role model and his Sunnah as our benchmark for success second only to the Qur;an itself.
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    Because of those spammers, scammers and abusing posts I nowadays hardly ever open Salamyou.
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    Perhaps it is better Salamyou should be restricted to Muslims only to at least prevent those who openly declare themselves to be Non Muslims from saying things against Islam and others posting pornographic images and other irrelevant and deplorable things there.

    Fine since most Non Muslims here abide by the rules and common sense, there is no reason to exclude them from the general forums, but if simply for the sake of removing the 'bad' and undesirable scammers for the time being, salamyou can be for 'certain Muslims only' [i.e. staff and trusted members] until the situation is made better and then other Muslims and Non Muslims can be allowed to return with open arms.
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    Jazakallah Khayrun Sister Herb. I would add it would be better if certain members [Muslim or Non Muslim] insult the Prophet Muhammad or Islam in general, they should be expelled from the forum. It is bad enough to receive defamatory, misleading and repugnant information from the British mass media but reprehensible to hear and see it on a Muslim forum or Muslim social media network and we just allow it to remain there.

    I won't name the specific user/s but I have seen at least one Non Muslim describe the Messenger of Allah as a careless drinker, a womaniser, a murderer among other things on Salamyou itself and despite my pleas for the offending remarks to be brought down, they remain on Salamyou and we call ourselves 'defenders of Islam'. The least we should do as a forum user are to ask the admins to remove her, take down her insulting posts and place warnings to say this will not be tolerated and all such posts will be erased.
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    Assalamu Alaikom,

    When we talk about such people i think we should stick to the rule that we don't engage in discussion with such people, we shouldn't give them a chance to provoke us. That is their goal to provoke us and to continue with demolition. I'm caucious with friend requests also, i first check their religious belief and basic information. But don't care about them, we can always add some words for respond here. Because the only thing they can do to us and to islam is destroy themselves with engaging their activities.

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    I agree. My point is that as a Muslim forum, we are the Defenders of Islam and it is our duty to represent Islam and not allow Non Muslims and even Muslims with secular opinions to say things against our Deen. To not say anything is one thing, to allow them to defame Islam or the Messenger of Allah (SAW) is just ridiculous. They should be banned and a general rule should be enforced that such nonsense will not be tolerated. They are entitled to their beliefs, but to slander, insult, deliberately malign and offend is against the rules of the forum.
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    The other issue is that if we don't do anything we are almost as bad as them. Remember the people of Musa (AS), when he left for forty days to collect the Tablets from Allah and also the time when he warned them not to do any fishing on the Sabbath. Allah says there were three kinds of people for both occasions. Which of the three should we want to be.

    The first were those who obeyed the Commands and remained true to do what they were instructed and were good Muslims. In addition, they warned those who broke the rules and tried to get people to reform.

    The second were those who obeyed the Commands and remained true to do what they were instructed, but did not warn others.

    The third were those who disobeyed Allah completely.

    In the case of fishing on the Sabbath. Those that disobeyed Allah were turned into pigs. Those that obeyed the Commands, remained good and were true to the Deen, but did not warn others and did not try to reform the wrongdoers were still turned into monkeys.

    My point is we have to do something, even if we believe nothing will result from it. The outcome is up to Allah. We just have to do our part.

    The most we will get is something may change. The least we will get is reward and compensation from Allah, so what have we got to lose and what is stopping us from doing something when we are guaranteed positive action from Allah.
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    Another point is we also should not act in a friendly manner to them in other articles, threads or discussions within the forum. To do so is to tacitly accept that they can say anything against our Deen and we seem to not care and ignore their remarks as if they did not say them or hold these opinions. All Muslims should be made aware of offending Non Muslims and what they have said and warned against entertaining their questions, queries, statements and or anything else until they recant, apologise and abstain from future insults. All Muslims should then ignore them and if they must reply by saying that they are enemies of Allah as long as they publicly slander Islam and All Muslims will not speak to them during that period.
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    The Companions of the Prophet (SAW), our role models and closest people to the Messenger (SAW) would be incensed by what is said against Islam or the Prophet (SAW) and would sever all connections with anyone, Muslim or Non Muslim, if it was against Islam. Why should be different to the best of the Muslims.
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    Salam,

    thanks brother for valuable information. I also do my best. But I am not that informed as you, besides saving my deen I react on others including my familiy members i inform them about islam but my father is corrupted soul and my mother also. I live with them but on the other hand I fight with them if they are ignorant. My father told me he will never change his faith and my mother. I just wanna live in my house because that is the place where I was born and a place where I can make a salah, other things like bringing food to house i putted my trust to them. I don't work temporaly so they buy food. I'm doing activities to get a job.

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    No problem brother and thanks for taking the information given.

    May Allah give you the strength to make you a firm believer, make your home pleasant to live within and allow your parents to embrace Islam and support you as a family member. As Allah says we should lower our wings to them, even if they be Non Muslim, and so I sympathise with you. Perhaps you have already doen so, but maybe you can ask them to agree to disagree with you so as to create peace in the household. That way, there is still room for Da'wah towards them.

    This may not be what you want to hear, but if it becomes to much to bear, you should even consider moving home if you are able to financially eventually (as an intention, not fully) and on good terms (at least temporarily) without breaking relations fully. That way you visit as often as possible and look forward to meeting one another and it may result in a positive reflection of Islam and of yourself by them in the long term and discussion about how your Deen has made you into a better person can become more applicable and amiable.

    The Prophet (SAW) and the companions used to give presents for their friends, neighbours and others as a form of preaching Islam, that way it is a form of 'closet Islam' where your actions speak louder than words and you do not actually open your mouth and talk about the Deen, but rather your change of behaviour, determined personal touch in not giving in to negative or potentially hostile reaction may actually win them over.

    Secondly, look at the Qur'an and Tafseer (Commentary of the Qur'an) and see what it says about Paradise. The Prophet (SAW) used to encourage the Companions to talk about Jannah both to Muslims and to Non Muslims. The mere mention of Paradise does something to the heart; it is a form of healing and 'spiritual massage' that awakens the soul and helps make people see the light. It is also something that makes many people accept Islam and remain good Muslims afterwards. I would be happy to supply you with ebooks that speak about the Qur'an and give Tafseer should you feel it is something you would like to pursue, both for yourself to make you stronger and for your parents and anyone else for that matter.

    I will make Dua for you and your family and inshallah Allah will help ease your affairs both in this world and the Akhirah. Remember one thing in these dark times, between you and Allah is your personal screen. He knows and recognizes your pain, anguish and suffering. As someone who is enduring difficulty for His Deen, you are closer to Him than many Muslims worldwide in better circumstances, especially those born to Muslim parents. In the present situation, your Duas are more likely to be accepted, your Akhirah [and your Jannah] is much brighter and your compensation as well as reward is ten times higher, because of your perseverance, patience and assertiveness in retaining your Imaan for the sake of Allah alone. He will guide you, provide a way out and establish you on a solid footing eventually. Remain patient and stay strong and Allah will help you financially, physically and spiritually.
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    Salam,

    JazakAllah Khair, yes I would like you to send me ebooks. I visited masjid more than several times and was given some ebooks also which gave my life an ease. I didn't really expect from member/s here to meet me in such kind way. And you just say me the way I could give you my email so you can send me the books.

    Salam
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    Jazakallah Khayrun Brother. Please send me your email and list your preferences of what types of ebooks (both Islamic and Non Islamic) you would be interested in and I can then start delivering them to you.

    I have a total collection of over 600, 000 ebooks in various topics (and 3, 000 on my kindle) ma'shallah, so inshallah I am hopeful some of what I have will interest you.
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    I am also on the Brothers section here and I post more articles there than on the regular forum, so you are welcome to join me there and engage in discussion on the different themes touched on there.
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    Salam,

    Jazakallah Khair, first i'll send you my friend request so via that i shall provide you my mail. I'm taking caution that no spam enters my mail. ([email protected]), but here it is, couldnt wait.
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    I'm interested in both islamic and nonislamic but i would be happy if i could get better islam insight books for spreading my knowledge because this is very reccomendable these days. I'm thinking about study the commentary of the qur'an for example. MashAllah. Qur'an = the guidance.
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