Shia Hotline: Phone in Your Sins and Confessions

[Asja]

Asak Sister,

i understand that you are trying not to judge some one and only ALLAH can do that. Mashallah thats very good.

please look at what brother Rashadi has written he has good points. The proof( to hate them) i have already given

Listen to any juma qutba the hadith by which the qutba ends says Any one who has hatred of my sahaba I (prophet Muhammad salallah u alaihi wa sallam) have hatred towards them

If you love your mother and i say something against her, you are going to be so mad at me, similarly when some one says something against the Sahabis obviously we are going to hate them..

When i went to Saudi, the shia camp was next to ours and our imam was very angry on their speech, we asked him what they were saying and he said that they were calling Bibi Ayesha the nasty word..

I also heard that president of Iran ( Dont know if this story is true- this being untrue doesnt affect my opinion) spat on the grave of Hazrat Uthman.

When the Prophet loved his Sahaba so much and these people hate them how can i have a soft corner towards them.. They say things like La ILA HA ILLALAH ALI o WALI ALLAH ( something like that)

Allah Knows best...

We Alaicumu Salam dear brother

Allhamdullilah dear brother that we all are against what some Shia Muslims are doing Astagfirullah, but not against all Shia Muslims Allhamdullilah.

But Inshallah we will waith for day of Judgment dear brother becouse ater all Allah will be the one who will Judge us all and not people. Please do not worry dear brother everything wil be fine with mercy of Allah, Inshallah.

May Allah bless you dear brother and all Muslims.Ameen:

 

[Salem9022]

Aaaawwwww shocks!!!

It seems they haven't heard about *text messaging* yet!!!

I was seriously snickering non-stop..though the part from 1:00 (the lady begging the supposed Imam Redha) kind of made me sit back with utter disgust

It seems as though Shias have shut off their brains COMPLETELY...Everyday I understand better why so many young Shias are becoming so shut-off by theology that they're either going agnostic or flat-out atheist!
Astaghfirullah Al-Adheem!!!

thats very true, I heard a few Years Back that the Leader of America's Shia Society I forget his name he lives in Dearborn, Michigan or somewhere in Michigan his Son is actually an atheist and Homosexual, he even has his own Shia Temple which he gives speechs and leads the prayer and his son who is a Homosxual is part of the committee there. lool. Also about Shias leaving their religion that is so true. Atleast 60-75% of Shias when they come to America or Europe Leave Shiaism and become agnostics, atheists, or christians. And the remaing shias who still believe in shiaism dont follow its teachings, but only call themselvs shias. Only maybe 2% of them will follow Shiaism still living in America or UK. I know a Shia on Paltalk, his father is a Shia priest he gives religious rulings to shias like Shiraazi and Khominee did so both of his parents are religous shia. But he is an atheist all of his family lives in UK they are originally from Iraq. So even the most religious Shia will leave this religion called Shiaism, this religion called "Shiaism" is a perfect recipe for future atheists.

Also I have noting against Persians, but I find many persians especially those from afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, even though they might be sunnies like us they still will not believe in many parts of Islam. The sunnies that i've seen who left Islam they tend to be Persian sunnies from my understand. why is that?

 

[Asja]

And NO I will not be able to bring you proof that there's a believer Shia..I don't think anybody will be able to in fact!..because they're all the same..they're lost in the darkness of ill-beliefs and attributing partners to Allah..you're practically asking for the impossible here..so I don't even know why you're asking that..whether it's actual or hypothetical!

Allhamdullilah that it is possible sister but only if you are saying the truth. There are no two people on Earth that are the same. All Shia Muslims are not the same, neither Sunni Muslims are the same.

You obviously lack knowledge in the *detailed* creed of Shias sister..their belief...their *doctrine*..they DIFFER from us (Ahlul-Sunnah)..they differ from us VERY MUCH..so NO..they do not follow what Ahlul-Sunnah follow!...and thus you cannot claim that they are *like us*..I mean for Allah's sake..THEY DON'T EVEN ACCEPT THE QURA'AN WE READ IN!!!..what more do we need to know they are NOT like us???...

Allhamdullilah sister that I do not "lack knowledge" about Shia Muslims. I am saying dear sister that not all Shia Muslims are having wrong belifes Astagfirulah and that there are good Shia Muslims Alhamdullilah.

sweet talk won't change REALITY and FACTS sister!!!..we're not hippies in a peace & love palooza here..we are Muslims who need to stand up for what is correct and sound in the light of tawheed and sunnah..because THAT IS BEING JUST and that is our DUTY..Shias are deviant from the things I mentioned..so we HAVE to point them out and speak of what is RIGHT to them and to our Muslim brothers and sisters..even if it will seem HARSH..and even if it costs us our lives!

Do not worry dear sister Allah will protect His religion but not from Muslims but from real enemies of Islam.

One more thing...Iraq did not attack Iran FIRST..

I am sorry dear sister but this is NOT TRUTH. History has been written and we can not change it on the way that the best suit to us.
IRAQ WAS THE FIRST ONE WHO ATACKED IRAN WITHOUT ANY WARNING(and broke the rules of war), AND IRAN HAS BEEN DEFFENDING HIS TERITORY, HIS PEOPLE AND HIS HONOUR.

If you still don't think this sounds *credible* look up some of the "Islamic Revolution slogans" such as *THE ROAD TO JANNAH IS THROUGH KARBALA'A*..can you tell me where Karbala'a is???..it is IRAQI LAND..so they wanted to INVADE a land that's not theirs..that's aside from all horrific slogans labeling Iraqis as nawasib and such..

They all say the same but only Allah knows the best Allhamdullilah.

but it seems that I will go around in circles with you sister..you can easily look up all of my claims

Allhamdulliulah for me is enough waht Allah sais and His Prophet.

 

[mhamzah]

We Alaicumu Salam dear brother

Allhamdullilah dear brother that we all are against what some Shia Muslims are doing Astagfirullah, but not against all Shia Muslims Allhamdullilah.

But Inshallah we will waith for day of Judgment dear brother becouse ater all Allah will be the one who will Judge us all and not people. Please do not worry dear brother everything wil be fine with mercy of Allah, Inshallah.

May Allah bless you dear brother and all Muslims.Ameen:

:salam2:

Sister Asja has got a point. After all a person does not stand condemned for the community he belongs to, rather he is condemned for his actions. We don't know what is inside the heart of a person, only Allah swt know that.

Quran tells us that there are amongst the people of the book that believe in Allah and the last day.

So one has to be careful in generalising. Maybe a person who calls himself/herself shia isnt aware that certain actions of certain shia constitute Shirk and insulting the companions of the Prophet (pbuh) is associated with Shiaism.

As far as the video itself is concerned, I tried to search it on the internet and couldnt verify it from another source, thats the only source (youtube) I got. So I am not sure how true is the video in first place. And Allah swt knows best.

That conclude my thought on this subject.

May Allah guide us closer to the truth.

 

[Asja]

Assalamu Alaicum

Sometimes people do not understan life. Sometimes there get lost in all different ways that lead to different sides.

Life is just a moment, it is now and never again.

Everything will be now and never again.

Only something stays and nobody knows what.

But He knows, yes He knows and only becouse of that and HIm worth to LIVE.

ALLAHU AKBAR!!!

 

[Asja]

:salam2:

Sister Asja has got a point. After all a person does not stand condemned for the community he belongs to, rather he is condemned for his actions. We don't know what is inside the heart of a person, only Allah swt know that.

Allaicumu Salam dear brother

Thank you dear brother and may Allah reword you for being His honest servent Mashallah.

I also agree with you and may Allah guide us all, Inshallah.:tti_sister:

 

[a_muslimah86]

thats very true, I heard a few Years Back that the Leader of America's Shia Society I forget his name he lives in Dearborn, Michigan or somewhere in Michigan his Son is actually an atheist and Homosexual, he even has his own Shia Temple which he gives speechs and leads the prayer and his son who is a Homosxual is part of the committee there. lool. Also about Shias leaving their religion that is so true. Atleast 60-75% of Shias when they come to America or Europe Leave Shiaism and become agnostics, atheists, or christians. And the remaing shias who still believe in shiaism dont follow its teachings, but only call themselvs shias. Only maybe 2% of them will follow Shiaism still living in America or UK. I know a Shia on Paltalk, his father is a Shia priest he gives religious rulings to shias like Shiraazi and Khominee did so both of his parents are religous shia. But he is an atheist all of his family lives in UK they are originally from Iraq. So even the most religious Shia will leave this religion called Shiaism, this religion called "Shiaism" is a perfect recipe for future atheists.

Also I have noting against Persians, but I find many persians especially those from afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, even though they might be sunnies like us they still will not believe in many parts of Islam. The sunnies that i've seen who left Islam they tend to be Persian sunnies from my understand. why is that?

Wow! a homosexual?..has he heard of the fatwa by Al-Khomaini allowing operations for sex-changes?..and how *the government* should actually FINANCIALLY support any homosexual person seeking to make the operation?..so the poor little homosexual man or woman stops feeling TRAPPED in their body?..wonder if anybody can FAX the fatwa to the hussainiya they beat themselves and slander Rasulullah's wives in!!!..that way they'll have a "sister" in the committee..heh!

I think most of them leave Islam because of their lack of proper Islamic knowledge..and the reasons for them not having it are quite many!

 

[Al-Kashmiri]

As-salaamu `alaykum.

Allaah says in the Qu'raan,

"You (O Muhammad SAW) will not find any people who believe in Allâh and the Last Day, making friendship with those who oppose Allâh and His Messenger (Muhammad SAW ), even though they were their fathers, or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred (people). For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with Rûh (proofs, light and true guidance) from Himself. And We will admit them to Gardens (Paradise) under which rivers flow, to dwell therein (forever). Allâh is pleased with them, and they with Him. They are the Party of Allâh. Verily, it is the Party of Allâh that will be the successful." (Al-Mujadilah 58:22)

We love for the sake of Allaah, and hate for His sake. We base this upon the extent one loves Allaah and His Messenger, sall-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam. And the love of Allaah is earned by obedience to Him and His Messenger, `alayhi salaatu was-salaam,

"Say (O Muhammad SAW to mankind): "If you (really) love Allâh then follow me (i.e. accept Islâmic Monotheism, follow the Qur'ân and the Sunnah), Allâh will love you and forgive you of your sins. And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."" (Aali Imran 3:31)

Now the shi`a, the worst of them deny the Qur'aan, so the are outright kuffaar. How can we love people who lie about Allaah and His Speech, His Kitaab? Then you find those who deny the sunnah of the Prophet, sall-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam, which is also clear kufr. You also have those who curse the Companions; more kufr. If they don't do any of this, then you have all their innovations which amount to shirk. We do not love a people who commit shirk. You then have those who perhaps are free of all this, but their innovations amount to bid`ah. Muslims perhaps, but our love of them is limited, because they don't uphold the way of the Prophet, sall-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam, innovating to his way. Some of the salaf I believe use to say that loving for the sake of Allaah is to love based upon a man and his attachment to sunnah over bid`ah.

There are very few "shi`i" I have love for... those who turned away from tashayyu` (shiaism) and adhere to the sunnah and the way of our salaf in belief and methodology, they love Allaah, His Messenger, his sunnah and his companions. They read and learn from the books of the scholars of sunnah. Yes some of their fiqh is different, because they were brought up this way, but the correct understanding will come inshaa' Allaah.

The point is, the majority of the factions of the shi`a as we know them and their various dominions, are outright kuffaar. Some of these dominions are better than others, and few of them do I know to be considered Muslim. I hear and have read to some extent that from them are the Zaidis (of Yemen.. not the bird worshipping shi`i yazidis!). I have also noticed that quite a few Lebanese people have far better `aqeedah then others in for example, Iran and Iraq. Of course, that doesn't mean that every or even most of them have better `aqeedah...

Allaah knows best.

 

[a_muslimah86]

As-salaamu `alaykum.

Allaah says in the Qu'raan,

"You (O Muhammad SAW) will not find any people who believe in Allâh and the Last Day, making friendship with those who oppose Allâh and His Messenger (Muhammad SAW ), even though they were their fathers, or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred (people). For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with Rûh (proofs, light and true guidance) from Himself. And We will admit them to Gardens (Paradise) under which rivers flow, to dwell therein (forever). Allâh is pleased with them, and they with Him. They are the Party of Allâh. Verily, it is the Party of Allâh that will be the successful." (Al-Mujadilah 58:22)

We love for the sake of Allaah, and hate for His sake. We base this upon the extent one loves Allaah and His Messenger, sall-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam. And the love of Allaah is earned by obedience to Him and His Messenger, `alayhi salaatu was-salaam,

"Say (O Muhammad SAW to mankind): "If you (really) love Allâh then follow me (i.e. accept Islâmic Monotheism, follow the Qur'ân and the Sunnah), Allâh will love you and forgive you of your sins. And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."" (Aali Imran 3:31)

Now the shi`a, the worst of them deny the Qur'aan, so the are outright kuffaar. How can we love people who lie about Allaah and His Speech, His Kitaab? Then you find those who deny the sunnah of the Prophet, sall-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam, which is also clear kufr. You also have those who curse the Companions; more kufr. If they don't do any of this, then you have all their innovations which amount to shirk. We do not love a people who commit shirk. You then have those who perhaps are free of all this, but their innovations amount to bid`ah. Muslims perhaps, but our love of them is limited, because they don't uphold the way of the Prophet, sall-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam, innovating to his way. Some of the salaf I believe use to say that loving for the sake of Allaah is to love based upon a man and his attachment to sunnah over bid`ah.

There are very few "shi`i" I have love for... those who turned away from tashayyu` (shiaism) and adhere to the sunnah and the way of our salaf in belief and methodology, they love Allaah, His Messenger, his sunnah and his companions. They read and learn from the books of the scholars of sunnah. Yes some of their fiqh is different, because they were brought up this way, but the correct understanding will come inshaa' Allaah.

The point is, the majority of the factions of the shi`a as we know them and their various dominions, are outright kuffaar. Some of these dominions are better than others, and few of them do I know to be considered Muslim. I hear and have read to some extent that from them are the Zaidis (of Yemen.. not the bird worshipping shi`i yazidis!). I have also noticed that quite a few Lebanese people have far better `aqeedah then others in for example, Iran and Iraq. Of course, that doesn't mean that every or even most of them have better `aqeedah...

Allaah knows best.

Baraka Allaho Feek!..Thank You!..FINALLY..pretty much what I've been trying to say ALL DAY is said again!..hopefully this will fall upon unblind eyes!..and it gets through to be processed and comprehended!..Jazaka Allah every Khair Akhi!

 

[Al-Kashmiri]

Wafeeki baarak.

Anyway, it is the usual practice of us mods to close these threads 3 pages ago. But I believe that posting those aayaat was necessary, for ALL of us to remember. I also advise that we read the tafseer of them, from the trustworthy scholars since they are very important aayaat.

Thread closed. If there are any doubts regarding this matter that you feel need to be explained and clarified, please contact a mod and inshaa' Allaah we can help. But the thread will remain closed henceforth.

May Allaah curse those who ascribe partners to Him, who deny His Book, those who reject the Sunnah, those who curse the Mothers of the believers, and those who mock the companions of the Messenger, `alayhi salaatu was-salaam. Companions who are pleased with Allaah, companions who Allaah is pleased with, those who are from the best of mankind, from the best generation of mankind, who were chosen by Allaah to accompany the best of mankind, our leader, the seal of the Prophets and a mercy to mankind, Muhammad, sall-Allaahu `alayhi wa`alaa aalihi wasahbihi wasallam.

Ameen!