
How can the Shia's call themselves Muslims when they do stuff like this?!
May Allah (SWT) guide them and us all! Ameen!
well they can call themselves what ever they want, but according to our religion which is Supported by the Quran and Sunnah these people are Not muslims. No matter what these people do and say. Also this is only one incident of the Shia religion. there are many many more to come looool

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What frustrates me more is that people still try to defend them and say they're our "brothers & sisters" and we should love them and give me and those who speak the truth about them..that whole emotional & sloganed nonsense!..
I cannot understand how someone who considers it a *pillar of prayer* to sit and make a dua'a *CURSING* the wives and the companions of Rasulullah (saaws) can be a *brother* or *sister* of mine!..I don't know how others *see and believe that there is a brotherhood between us* knowing that they do things like that!
We need to open our eyes to the truth of the Shias..in my pesonal convictions..they are a harm worst than that of Westerners and their politics!..look what they did to Iraq..just as one small current example...
May Allah protect us from their evils!..Ameen!

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Dear sister you need to know waht means Muslim,the one who folows Allahs way and Sunnah of our Prophet Mohammed s.a.w.s.
Alhamdulillah that we love our brothers and sisters Shia Muslims BUT Muslims dear sister,and Alhamdulillah that we do not love Shia Non Muslims and Sunni Non Muslims.
It is truth there there are really good and pious Shia Muslims who are folwing Allahs way,who do not commit sins and who submit to Alahs orders,adn who love and folow our Last Prophet s.a.w.s,and that is the most importante and that is what is making them Muslims too.
In Prophets s.a.w.s time there was one man who killed other man thinking that he accpet Islaam only from fear that he will be killed like kaifir.
After Prophet Mohammed s.aw.s. find out for this he got very angry and he asked him"Why did you kill this man",on what he answered him"I killed him becasue I thought that he accept Islaam only becasue of fear to not be killed".
On that Prophet Mohammed s.a.w.s. answered him"You should not kill this man,because you did not open his heart to see did he become Muslim from his heart".
It is the same with Shia Muslims,becasue only Allah subhan we teal knows and He is the only One who decide who He will accept like His servents and only Allah knows who is Muslim SubhanAllah.
This are doing shia Non Msulims but NOT Shia Muslims Alhamdulillah,we need to open our eyes to see diffrence betwen shia Muslims and Shia Non Muslims.
Dear sister who attack who first???Did Iran attack first Iraq,or Iraq attack first Iran(Teheran)???
Ameen dear sister for your daus.May Allah aslo protect us from those so called "Sunni Muslims" and thier evil!!! Astagfirullah
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1. There's no such thing as Sunni Non-Muslim and Shia Non-Muslim..a Muslim who is a Non-Muslim..and so on...it doesn't even make sense *linguistically* nonetheless *de facto*!!!...the deen of Islam..is in two things..the Qura'an and the Sunnah...these Shias even dare to say the Qura'an's contents had been tampered with..and reject the Sunnah..pardon me..but what kind of a Muslim will one be upon claiming such stances???
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What I meant sister with saying that it exist Sunni Non Muslims and Shia Non Muslims is that there are so called "Muslims " with only names of Muslims but in the reality they are not Muslims Alhamdulillah.They are going agaisnt Allahs holy Loq,agaisnt Allah words,agaisnt Sunnah,and they folow path of Shatyan and they worship to him Astagfirullah and not to Allah Almighty,but still they dare to call them selves Muslims Astagfirullah.
3. The story of the kafir mentioned I am quite familiar with and it has no relevance to the state of the rawafidh..if you believe in the Lordship of Allah and accept pure tawheed (monotheism)..then what is in your heart *HAS TO MATCH* what you *do* (i.e. HOW YOU WORSHIP!)...you cannot say I believe in Allah..then go stand at the "supposed" grave of Sayidina Ali (radhiya allaho 'anh) and *BEG HIM* to answer their prayers...last time I checked...ALLAH..was AL-SAMEE'E & AL-MOJEEB!..
It was not story about kiafir dear sister,it was story about Muslim who accepted Islam,and Allah knows the best.
Alhamdulilalh sister I agree with you comletely about the onyl right tawheed,worshiping Allah needs to mean to folow His way,His comeds and not do sins and that what Allah has forbidden to us SubhanAllah billahi.That is the same waht Shia Muslims are folowing,and that is waht is making them Muslims Alhamdulillah.
4. Surely Allah knows who is Muslim and who is not..but Allah (swt) has made His DEEN clear..and His worship CLEARER!..Tawheed is thoroughly explained and its conditions are authentic and verified...anybody who does not follow them..is either ignorant..or arrogant!..it's ALWAYS one of the two!
Alhmadulillah I agree with you dear sister.
5. This ties to my point in #1..there's no such thing as SHIA MUSLIMS and SHIA NON-MUSLIMS..they're all the same!...they know what is the path to Allah..they know what is Islam..they know what Allah (swt) Wants..and they know what Rasulullah (saaws) warned AGAINST and ENCOURAGED..but yet they still WORSHIP GRAVES..marry temporarily..curse people GRANTED JANNAH and accompanied Rasulullah in his struggles..and slander his wives (radhiya allaho 'anhom wa 'ardhahom)
They are not the same dear sister,nothing can be the same Alhamdulillah.There are great Shia Muslims Mashallah,who does not do these forbiden things sister Astagfirullah,and who honestly worship to Him.
There are no videos,lectures,words that can change and negate that there are not shia Muslims who worship rightly to Allah SubhanAllah.Allah is the One who is All Knowing Al Aleem sister,and you and noone of us does not like Allah knows dear sister.Allah is the msot Justice One sister and He ask of us to be also justice,and if there is one real Shia Muslim he will testify agaisnt us on Day of Judgment becasue we call him unbeliver,and he was beliver and he loved Allah.Maybe there is Shia Muslim who loves Allah more than 10 Sunni Muslims.
Can you please bring me the prove that there is not Shia Muslim beliver???Ofcourse you can not sister,and doy ou know why? Becasue Allah is All Knowing (al -Aleem).
6. I don't know what you mean by the who attacked who first...but it does not take a rocket-scientist to FIGURE OUT..that the Shias of Iraq are traitors and collaborators first with the American occupation forces..and second with the Safawi Shias of Iran!!!...I can make an entire website about the HORRIDNESS of Shia militias and government members who kill Iraqis BY THEIR ID...Sunnis are stuffed INTO OVENS and parties are made for KILLING SUNNIS...these things are DOCUMENTED..so alhamduliallah..I am not preaching something out of my own pocket..so to speak!..Al-Ja'afari (past PM of Iraq) was quoted saying "I will not leave a Omar or a Aisha in Iraq ALIVE"...I wonder who names these names???..SUNNIS!..I wonder what he means by that???..KILLING THE SUNNIS OF IRAQ!
Alhamdulillah I know what I meant when I asked who attack first because it was not Iran.Iraq attacked first Iran on 22 September 1980,and so many Muslims in Iran has been killed.And today many Muslims in iran are colecting the money for help to Muslims in iraq Mashallah.
7. There are no so-called Sunni-Muslims..and trust me..even the worst of SUNNIS..does not compare to a Shia...at least Sunnis do not curse the companions of Rasulullah..call his wives adulterers..and say the Qura'an is not his (pbuh)..it is meant to be Ali's!!!...ao'otho billah and astaghfirullah from they claim and what they say!!!...MAY ALLAH TURN THEIR DECEPTIONS (TOWARDS US) UNTO THEMSELVES..AND MAY ALLAH GUARD US FROM THEIR EVILS UNTIL QIYAMA!
We pray that Allah unite all Muslims Inshallah,and we ask of Allah protection from those so called "Sunni Muslims".Ameen.
May Allah guide us all,and may He be pleased us.Ameen.
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What I meant sister with saying that it exist Sunni Non Muslims and Shia Non Muslims is that there are so called "Muslims " with only names of Muslims but in the reality they are not Muslims Alhamdulillah.They are going agaisnt Allahs holy Loq,agaisnt Allah words,agaisnt Sunnah,and they folow path of Shatyan and they worship to him Astagfirullah and not to Allah Almighty,but still they dare to call them selves Muslims Astagfirullah.
It was not story about kiafir dear sister,it was story about Muslim who accepted Islam,and Allah knows the best.
Alhamdulilalh sister I agree with you comletely about the onyl right tawheed,worshiping Allah needs to mean to folow His way,His comeds and not do sins and that what Allah has forbidden to us SubhanAllah billahi.That is the same waht Shia Muslims are folowing,and that is waht is making them Muslims Alhamdulillah.
Alhmadulillah I agree with you dear sister.
They are not the same dear sister,nothing can be the same Alhamdulillah.There are great Shia Muslims Mashallah,who does not do these forbiden things sister Astagfirullah,and who honestly worship to Him.
There are no videos,lectures,words that can change and negate that there are not shia Muslims who worship rightly to Allah SubhanAllah.Allah is the One who is All Knowing Al Aleem sister,and you and noone of us does not like Allah knows dear sister.Allah is the msot Justice One sister and He ask of us to be also justice,and if there is one real Shia Muslim he will testify agaisnt us on Day of Judgment becasue we call him unbeliver,and he was beliver and he loved Allah.Maybe there is Shia Muslim who loves Allah more than 10 Sunni Muslims.
Can you please bring me the prove that there is not Shia Muslim beliver???Ofcourse you can not sister,and doy ou know why? Becasue Allah is All Knowing (al -Aleem).
Alhamdulillah I know what I meant when I asked who attack first because it was not Iran.Iraq attacked first Iran on 22 September 1980,and so many Muslims in Iran has been killed.And today many Muslims in iran are colecting the money for help to Muslims in iraq Mashallah.
We pray that Allah unite all Muslims Inshallah,and we ask of Allah protection from those so called "Sunni Muslims".Ameen.
May Allah guide us all,and may He be pleased us.Ameen.
Salaam Aleykom sister Asja, I don't view you as a shia but I view you as a Muslima from how you write. Before I embraced Islam, i didn't know the difference between Sunni and Shia but it was only afterwards that I realized the difference and it is big difference. But there are some who may identify as shias but are actually Muslims and go to masjids with rest and to me those are Muslims. But there are those who are shias and know their religion and it is these kind that are not true Muslims. As for Iraq, it is the Shias of Iraq who have always betrayed the country in the history. With all due respect my sister, but even in the time of wars with the Mongols or Christians, the shias have aided the enemy and this is another reason I wouldn't consider them Muslims but the main thing is the deen. Anyone who curses the sahaba, the wives of the prophet, goes against the sunnah, or disbelieves in the Quran can never be called a "Muslim". A Muslim is one worships none but Allah and follows his messenger. The Shahadah is La ilaha ila Allah, Muhammada rasulullah.
I have seen some of the shirk some shias do and Subhan Allah it is very dangerous and serious. I personally don't like labels and names other than what Allah has given us. The Quran calls us Muslims and this the name we should cling by. It was the Rafidha who began calling the rest of the Muslims "Sunnis" and this is how the labels started. They called themselbes shias after they split and called the rest of us "sunnis". The correct name is Muslim and it is one who follows the Quran and the Sunnah. The Shia doctrines have no basis in Islam and anyone to believe that there is such thing as 12 Imams or that a khilafah could conly come from the blood line of Ali(ra) and Fatima(ra) is doing somesthing unheard of. There is no way Abu Bakr, Uthman, Umar, etc would have disobeyed the prophet like that, and how could Allah have ordained something and it doesn't come true or it is stopped by human beings? If there was such thing, it would have been known to everyone and the pious sahaba would never have dared to disobey Allah and his messenger.
Since the split, more and more shirk and innovations have crept into the shia beliefs. I have a hard time accepting them as Muslims but as I said above there are some who may ignorantly call themselves shias but are actually Muslims. I view you as a Muslima and I love you for the sake of Allah my sister. I would like to ask you about the Muslims in Iran. Are they allowed to practice their deen? and I am talking about those who are called "Sunnis". I heard bad things and I heard there are no Sunni Muslim masjids in Tehran and I would like you to touch on that please if you can, thanks sister.
Waleykom Salaam.
1. There's no such thing as Sunni Non-Muslim and Shia Non-Muslim..a Muslim who is a Non-Muslim..and so on...it doesn't even make sense *linguistically* nonetheless *de facto*!!!...the deen of Islam..is in two things..the Qura'an and the Sunnah...these Shias even dare to say the Qura'an's contents had been tampered with..and reject the Sunnah..pardon me..but what kind of a Muslim will one be upon claiming such stances???
2. A *Muslim* (aside from secondary madhhab names!) would not rub against a grave of the dead..or say that an ayatollah can say unto a thing *be! and it is!* (this straight out of a lecture of Shia Sayyid..which I heard with my own ears!)..mind you I'm only scratching the *surface* with my two examples
3. The story of the kafir mentioned I am quite familiar with and it has no relevance to the state of the rawafidh..if you believe in the Lordship of Allah and accept pure tawheed (monotheism)..then what is in your heart *HAS TO MATCH* what you *do* (i.e. HOW YOU WORSHIP!)...you cannot say I believe in Allah..then go stand at the "supposed" grave of Sayidina Ali (radhiya allaho 'anh) and *BEG HIM* to answer their prayers...last time I checked...ALLAH..was AL-SAMEE'E & AL-MOJEEB!..
4. Surely Allah knows who is Muslim and who is not..but Allah (swt) has made His DEEN clear..and His worship CLEARER!..Tawheed is thoroughly explained and its conditions are authentic and verified...anybody who does not follow them..is either ignorant..or arrogant!..it's ALWAYS one of the two!
5. This ties to my point in #1..there's no such thing as SHIA MUSLIMS and SHIA NON-MUSLIMS..they're all the same!...they know what is the path to Allah..they know what is Islam..they know what Allah (swt) Wants..and they know what Rasulullah (saaws) warned AGAINST and ENCOURAGED..but yet they still WORSHIP GRAVES..marry temporarily..curse people GRANTED JANNAH and accompanied Rasulullah in his struggles..and slander his wives (radhiya allaho 'anhom wa 'ardhahom)
6. I don't know what you mean by the who attacked who first...but it does not take a rocket-scientist to FIGURE OUT..that the Shias of Iraq are traitors and collaborators first with the American occupation forces..and second with the Safawi Shias of Iran!!!...I can make an entire website about the HORRIDNESS of Shia militias and government members who kill Iraqis BY THEIR ID...Sunnis are stuffed INTO OVENS and parties are made for KILLING SUNNIS...these things are DOCUMENTED..so alhamduliallah..I am not preaching something out of my own pocket..so to speak!..Al-Ja'afari (past PM of Iraq) was quoted saying "I will not leave a Omar or a Aisha in Iraq ALIVE"...I wonder who names these names???..SUNNIS!..I wonder what he means by that???..KILLING THE SUNNIS OF IRAQ!
7. There are no so-called Sunni-Muslims..and trust me..even the worst of SUNNIS..does not compare to a Shia...at least Sunnis do not curse the companions of Rasulullah..call his wives adulterers..and say the Qura'an is not his (pbuh)..it is meant to be Ali's!!!...ao'otho billah and astaghfirullah from they claim and what they say!!!...MAY ALLAH TURN THEIR DECEPTIONS (TOWARDS US) UNTO THEMSELVES..AND MAY ALLAH GUARD US FROM THEIR EVILS UNTIL QIYAMA!
5) A renowned scholar Imam ibne taimiah said" Shias are kafir and anyone who says shias are not kafir they(who say) are also kafir.
Asalamu Alaicum brother/sister
Allhamdulilah I say that Shia Muslims are Muslims. So by the opinion of this schoolar I am KAFIR Astagfirullah??? But Allhamdullilah Muslim has no fear from noone but from Allah THE MOST GREATEST ONE. I just ask myselfe where is the fear of those who are calling us kafirs.
I would like to add one ruling of the ulema.Suppose you are in a situation where you have to drink from the water ( already drank by) of a kafir and a shia you should opt to drink from the kafirs and in any case you are not allowed to drink from the shia's
Which ulema sais this Astagfirullah???
Can you bring me the verse from Holy Quran or hadith which we prove this opinion of ulema.
But please remember this is just opinion of ulem,thier subjective opinion and not objective.This is opinion but not Allah Low.
And Alhmadulilah that Shia Muslims can not be compered with kafirs,because they are Muslims Alhamdulillah.
May Allah guide us all.
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Salaam Aleykom sister Asja,
Waleykom Salaam.
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What I meant sister with saying that it exist Sunni Non Muslims and Shia Non Muslims is that there are so called "Muslims " with only names of Muslims but in the reality they are not Muslims Alhamdulillah.They are going agaisnt Allahs holy Loq,agaisnt Allah words,agaisnt Sunnah,and they folow path of Shatyan and they worship to him Astagfirullah and not to Allah Almighty,but still they dare to call them selves Muslims Astagfirullah.
It was not story about kiafir dear sister,it was story about Muslim who accepted Islam,and Allah knows the best.
Alhamdulilalh sister I agree with you comletely about the onyl right tawheed,worshiping Allah needs to mean to folow His way,His comeds and not do sins and that what Allah has forbidden to us SubhanAllah billahi.That is the same waht Shia Muslims are folowing,and that is waht is making them Muslims Alhamdulillah.
Alhmadulillah I agree with you dear sister.
They are not the same dear sister,nothing can be the same Alhamdulillah.There are great Shia Muslims Mashallah,who does not do these forbiden things sister Astagfirullah,and who honestly worship to Him.
There are no videos,lectures,words that can change and negate that there are not shia Muslims who worship rightly to Allah SubhanAllah.Allah is the One who is All Knowing Al Aleem sister,and you and noone of us does not like Allah knows dear sister.Allah is the msot Justice One sister and He ask of us to be also justice,and if there is one real Shia Muslim he will testify agaisnt us on Day of Judgment becasue we call him unbeliver,and he was beliver and he loved Allah.Maybe there is Shia Muslim who loves Allah more than 10 Sunni Muslims.
Can you please bring me the prove that there is not Shia Muslim beliver???Ofcourse you can not sister,and doy ou know why? Becasue Allah is All Knowing (al -Aleem).
Alhamdulillah I know what I meant when I asked who attack first because it was not Iran.Iraq attacked first Iran on 22 September 1980,and so many Muslims in Iran has been killed.And today many Muslims in iran are colecting the money for help to Muslims in iraq Mashallah.
We pray that Allah unite all Muslims Inshallah,and we ask of Allah protection from those so called "Sunni Muslims".Ameen.
May Allah guide us all,and may He be pleased us.Ameen.
If you meant people who hold Islam for an identity and nothing else..because they lack in knowledge and/or practice..then that would be a different topic..the topic *here* are the rawafidh and their deviancy..
And NO I will not be able to bring you proof that there's a believer Shia..I don't think anybody will be able to in fact!..because they're all the same..they're lost in the darkness of ill-beliefs and attributing partners to Allah..you're practically asking for the impossible here..so I don't even know why you're asking that..whether it's actual or hypothetical!
You obviously lack knowledge in the *detailed* creed of Shias sister..their belief...their *doctrine*..they DIFFER from us (Ahlul-Sunnah)..they differ from us VERY MUCH..so NO..they do not follow what Ahlul-Sunnah follow!...and thus you cannot claim that they are *like us*..I mean for Allah's sake..THEY DON'T EVEN ACCEPT THE QURA'AN WE READ IN!!!..what more do we need to know they are NOT like us???...
sweet talk won't change REALITY and FACTS sister!!!..we're not hippies in a peace & love palooza here..we are Muslims who need to stand up for what is correct and sound in the light of tawheed and sunnah..because THAT IS BEING JUST and that is our DUTY..Shias are deviant from the things I mentioned..so we HAVE to point them out and speak of what is RIGHT to them and to our Muslim brothers and sisters..even if it will seem HARSH..and even if it costs us our lives!
One more thing...Iraq did not attack Iran FIRST..Iran sent Iraqi-Shia-traitors from Al-Da'awa Party (who is in power *now* for the record!) to Al-Mustansirriya UNIVERSITY (FULL of INNOCENT and CIVILIAN students!!!) with *grenades*..and they bombed the university...MY FATHER WAS ONLY FEET AWAY FROM THE ATTACK SITE AT THE TIME as he worked as an editor in Al-Jumhurriya national newspaper and he WITNESSED IT ALL..and the incident was documented in news sources everywhere as well..as a sovereign country..Iraq had to do what it takes to protect its land and its people!..
If you still don't think this sounds *credible* look up some of the "Islamic Revolution slogans" such as *THE ROAD TO JANNAH IS THROUGH KARBALA'A*..can you tell me where Karbala'a is???..it is IRAQI LAND..so they wanted to INVADE a land that's not theirs..that's aside from all horrific slogans labeling Iraqis as nawasib and such..
Before we speak of anything..we should have our facts straightened and backed up by thorough research..anyway..I'm done here!..I won't bother with explaining matters further..because pardon me..but it seems that I will go around in circles with you sister..you can easily look up all of my claims through a couple of hours spent on *google*..and that's that!