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dianek

Junior Member
Apparently I have offended someone, if so, I didn't mean too. Please accept my sincerest apologies. I have questions and am simply looking for answers to the questions that I cannot discuss with my husband as he becomes angry and hostile towards my questions. He has no patience for my questioning his faith. Thank you to those who replied to my posts with understanding. Much appreciated.
 

UmmOf3

Junior Member
I dont know, if I ever felt offended, I dont think so, cuz I rarely do online. If I came across as offensive, I want to appologize too.

What I think people might feel offended by, is the way you ask things, when you just asume islam is what your husband do, and then say "you muslims do like this or like that", when in reality, "this or that" is not islam, and muslims are supposed to not do it... ;) Just an advice...

I have partially been in your shoes, married to a non-practising muslim, but I was a muslim myself, so I had to get away from that marriage, and I divorced him.

Later, I remarried a revert hehe, but thats another story ;)
 

ShyHijabi

Junior Member
Dear Diane,

I was just in the middle of reading your thread when it was pulled. I don't think it's been pulled due to anything you have said but rather for some of the harsh responses you received. (there was some very good resources and answers as well so I hope they put it back after editing)

Please do not feel we are not open questions of all kinds. In Islam there is no shame in religion so if you desire clarification on a point please ask. I will pray that God makes the way easy for you and gentles your husband as I think he needs guidance on how to be a proper Muslim husband.

Also, as an American convert I welcome you to PM me if you have any questions. I am very laid back and have found a way to see things from both sides so you won't get judgement from me.

~Sarah
 

dianek

Junior Member
I dont know, if I ever felt offended, I dont think so, cuz I rarely do online. If I came across as offensive, I want to appologize too.

What I think people might feel offended by, is the way you ask things, when you just asume islam is what your husband do, and then say "you muslims do like this or like that", when in reality, "this or that" is not islam, and muslims are supposed to not do it... ;) Just an advice...

I have partially been in your shoes, married to a non-practising muslim, but I was a muslim myself, so I had to get away from that marriage, and I divorced him.

Later, I remarried a revert hehe, but thats another story ;)

I will try to do better. He just causes me to be emotional about things. AND I am brutally honest when stating my issues. I will work on it. But it is hard when it seems that HIS version of Islam and his interpretation has caused my heart and spirit to be broken so many times.....I hope that came out better.
 

dianek

Junior Member
Dear Diane,

I was just in the middle of reading your thread when it was pulled. I don't think it's been pulled due to anything you have said but rather for some of the harsh responses you received. (there was some very good resources and answers as well so I hope they put it back after editing)

Please do not feel we are not open questions of all kinds. In Islam there is no shame in religion so if you desire clarification on a point please ask. I will pray that God makes the way easy for you and gentles your husband as I think he needs guidance on how to be a proper Muslim husband.

Also, as an American convert I welcome you to PM me if you have any questions. I am very laid back and have found a way to see things from both sides so you won't get judgement from me.

~Sarah

Hello Sarah!

Thanks so much.....I was afraid that I had offended. I would be interested in PM'ing you. But quickly, what brought you to islam?
 

UmmOf3

Junior Member
I am also a revert, but not American though... ;) But I am on msn more or less all day, if you wanna chat :)
 

dianek

Junior Member
Asaalamu Aliakum
I don't think any responses were harsh cause the brothers and sisters who responded to that thread were only trying to defend islam. If my responses were harsh i apoligize and please forgive me.
jazakallah khair
salams till next time inshallah

Dear Sir:

I am sorry if you or anyone else thought that I was "attacking" islam. Was not my intent. I also understand that responses were with overwhelming passion, which is wonderful. I do however feel that, as I said before, if Islam were discussed more compassionately and friendly then more people may perk up and take heed. It is hard to want to be part of something that so many come across as "extreme" in their beliefs and therefore "harsh". The problem is that Muslims have no doubt that they are RIGHT. But, if you can understand, many Christians have the same belief. I don't pretend to know which is right and which is wrong so I play both sides of the coin equally. It helps me weed thru the muck of information.
 

dianek

Junior Member
In addition, just for the record, I hate Bible Thumpers, Orthodox Christians, Catholic Crap, Jehovah Witnesses and Ba'hais............Bottom line is I don't take well to "having the rath of Hell" thrown at me from any religion. I am an equal-opportunity discriminator......JUST KIDDING!:SMILY288: :SMILY288:
 

Sakeena

Junior Member
In addition, just for the record, I hate Bible Thumpers, Orthodox Christians, Catholic Crap, Jehovah Witnesses and Ba'hais............Bottom line is I don't take well to "having the rath of Hell" thrown at me from any religion. I am an equal-opportunity discriminator......JUST KIDDING!:SMILY288: :SMILY288:

I don't like Jehovah Witnesses either! Coming to your door @ 6 or 7am in the morning! Go home! Get a life! My God!
 

loveislam1

Junior Member
Asalam alikoum
Dianek I read the previous thread. I can understand where a lot of your feelings are coming from, your husband has been a poor example of not only a good husband but Muslim. Futhermore, you cant come to the religion through force it must be in your own time, which I feel like you may feel you are doing jsut to "get your husband off your back"

However, I wanted to point out a very important thing you said you said you dont beleive Jesus is GOD nor son of GOD in the physcial sense and that you believe in one GOD, you have the first of the shadatain, La illaha Ill Allah, There is no God but THE GOD Allah .....now the only thing you need to think about is the second part of the shahadatain...... Muhammed Arasool AllaH


Was Muhammed salalhu alahi wa salam HIS last messenger sent to ALL Of mankind? In fact he is the ONLY prophet sent to all of mankind not just nations and tribes like all of hte previous prophets (pbut) Jesus himself said he was sent "to the lost tribes of Israel." It was not Jesus who distorted his message but men who came MANY years after Jesus ali salat wa salam. Including Paul a christian bountyhunter and those who attended the coucil of nicea (constatine) It is not very hard to see where the bible has been changed the changes are very obvious

Rread anything and everything about the LIfe of The Prophet Muhammed sallahu alahi wa salam. Read the Quran completely and comprehensively, ther eis no other book in teh world like it subhanallah.

I reccomend ANY videos by Khalid Yassin (You can type his name on youtube) or Ahmed Deedat (also type his name on youtube) they are very passionate speakers , Ahmed Deedat mashallah is one of the very reasons I went to Islam. I have been muslim for 9 years allhamdullilah, I am American causcasian female convert mashallah wa allhamdullilah and cant imagine my life without Islam, there is no better answer for evyerthing in the world than Islam. Are there things that we will never come to understand yes, dont let that deter you or keep you from searching for any answer you can think of.....ther eis truly no other options that offer better explination of existance subhanallah and Muhammed salalhu alahi wa salam his prophethood is undeniable once you know him

I ask that ALlah subhana wa t'aala lift the viel from your eyes and erase any doubt in your heart may your journey to HIM be filled with knoweldge wsdom understanding and right guidance. :tti_sister:
 

amira87

I love Allah
mashallah.......

I have gone through these same experiences with this website as you did brother. I actually posted a public appology for everyone to see just so that they could see how humble I really was, than what they would have thoughtwith out my appology. Mashallah, and I give the ones credit who always appologize first whenever someone does something bad. That is one of the best form of charity to allah anyways....and that is to appologize first when you know you were wrong. I am so sick of those hard headed people who dont admit when they are wrong.......they are among the losers. Kepp up with the good work brother. I also wanted to implict that this website should be for any conversation that anyone wants to start. We should be able to ask things and talk about subjects that have to do with our emotional differences as well........why not? Islam is basically the way of life too. Islam is our life, we dont have to place a threade that only askes questions based on hadith and sunnah......it should be other topics that are simple life issues because they are also important to talk about to help us see the right path of islam. Inshallah I have said the right things.
 

ShyHijabi

Junior Member
Dear Dianek,

You asked about my personal story of converting to Islam so I will give the very short version. Basically I raised Orthodox Jew and taught to fear Muslims...that they were all wife beating, women suppressing, suicide bombers. To my great shame I will tell you I believed these words without ever researching them myself.


During my udergrad days I took a class in Middle Eastern Civilization and the first few weeks we had to learn about Islam. I realized all the "Muslim ways" were basically cultural practices and had nothing to do with Islam. It's like saying all Catholics were wife beating , alcoholics because that's what we see on TV.

I studied Islam for two years and converted and now I've been a Muslim for over a year. I have learned a vital lesson during this time...to always study what is Islam vs. what is cultural custom. I can't tell you how many times I've been told to do this or that because it's Islamic only to find it was cultural. Try not to become too discouraged during your search for truth. Humans are incrediably flawed and we oftentimes makes mistakes though our intentions are in the right place.

~Sarah
 

dianek

Junior Member
Dear Dianek,

You asked about my personal story of converting to Islam so I will give the very short version. Basically I raised Orthodox Jew and taught to fear Muslims...that they were all wife beating, women suppressing, suicide bombers. To my great shame I will tell you I believed these words without ever researching them myself.


During my udergrad days I took a class in Middle Eastern Civilization and the first few weeks we had to learn about Islam. I realized all the "Muslim ways" were basically cultural practices and had nothing to do with Islam. It's like saying all Catholics were wife beating , alcoholics because that's what we see on TV.

I studied Islam for two years and converted and now I've been a Muslim for over a year. I have learned a vital lesson during this time...to always study what is Islam vs. what is cultural custom. I can't tell you how many times I've been told to do this or that because it's Islamic only to find it was cultural. Try not to become too discouraged during your search for truth. Humans are incrediably flawed and we oftentimes makes mistakes though our intentions are in the right place.

~Sarah

Thank you for sharing your story...It is nice to know someone who did not convert as a way to solidify their relationship with a muslim man. Most of the wives of my husband's friends are truly practicing BUT there conversion WAS (speaking actual FACT here) to make there lives with their husbands easier. I didn't understand that kind of thought and felt they must be such weak creatures to do this. Afraid of being alone, I can't say for them. I feel that if I were to convert it would HAVE to be because I have a firm conviction in the faith. But I admit also that I care a lot about what people perceive of me.....which is a large reason that I have waited so long to learn more......especially if I were to convert and wear a hijab. I am self-concious enough without adding to it by drawing that attention to myself. And YES, around here it WOULD draw attention. I have personally witnessed a person driving in town YELL out of their window a one of the wives and told her to "Take that stupid RAG off your head".....I was mortified for her. I could not handle such behavior. I would probably go and slit my wrists or something. I can't handle rejection and negative reactions from others. I have even told some people that my husband is Italian to avoid questions about his faith. God Bless you for being so strong and secure.
 
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