Sudais to Lead Prayer in Deoband

[mahussain3]

:salam2:

Islam's holiest imam to lead Deoband prayers

The grand imam of Islam's holiest shrine in Mecca, Abdul Rahman Al-Sudais - will lead evening prayers at Darul Uloom Deoband on February 25.

The historic trip to India will be his first to a non-Islamic Asian nation.

Few could have predicted that the 51-year-old spiritual leader would decry terror and outlaw suicide bombings during the 2006 Haj. This gave the cue to Darul Uloom's fatwa against terrorism in 2008.

Al-Sudais is also slated to lead two prayers at Delhi's Ram Lila grounds on February 26.

Millions flock to Al-Sudais to hear him live during the holy month of Ramzan. Few fly back without a CD pack of his Quran recitals sold on Mecca's streets.

Al-Sudais is known for his theme-based sermons, often focusing on thorny contemporary issues, such as the treatment of women and terrorism.

At London's Regents Park Central Mosque in July 2010, he urged western Muslims to be "polite and caring" to their wives and to women in general, quoting al-Nisa, the Quranic chapter on women.

At Islamabad's Faisal Mosque, which he visited in June 2007, Al-Sudais declared there was "no room for terrorism in Islam".

"It will not be surprising if he reiterates this in India," said Zafarul Islam, head of Islamic studies at Aligarh Muslim University.

 

[twas19]

As salam alaykum

Mash Allah what a great occasion when he arrives.But i wish that he may visit pakistan too last time it was may 2007 when he came .

Walaykum salam

 

[queenislam]

Masha'Allah!


:salam2:

:ma:

An Honour to get a vsit from a special man from the holy land of Makkah Al Mukarramah!
~May Allah swt protect him
and make his journey to and back home safe~Amin!

Thank you for sharing this News
brother


Take Care!
~Wassalam .

 

[ShahnazZ]

.........no comment.

 

[al-fajr]

Assalamu'alaykum,

The grand imam of Islam's holiest shrine in Mecca, Abdul Rahman Al-Sudais - who is to Muslims what the Pope is to Christians -

With all due respect to Al-Sudais; the above is news to me.

 

[Al-Kashmiri]

Assalamu'alaykum,



With all due respect to Al-Sudais; the above is news to me.

Wa`alaykum us-Salaam

Looks like the sort of exaggeration our people are polluted with when bigging someone up.

 

[BrotherInIslam7]

:salam2:

A chance to say the namaz after Al-Sudais, who directs the five daily prayers at Mecca's Masjid al-Haram, will give thousands who can't afford the Haj a rare occasion to seek his blessings.

That just sounds strange.. :salam2:

 

[dunno]

who wrote this? seek sudais blessing? this is wrong? pope to muslims? i have met the imam personality and he would be outraged as the rest of us muslims to hear what has been written in this threat......this news was most certainly not from Saudi arabia nor from al sudais

 

[bari]

Please do not at all compare him with pope, pope,according to christians holy man, Sudais is not

 

[sachin4islam]

Assalam Alaikum: Though I am a new Muslim but can understand at best the difference between pure Islam taught by Muhammad (saw) and Deobandi Islam. It is astonishing a cleric of the order of Sheikh Sudais will lead a prayer at the center of a deviated ideology. A reward of prayer depends on the intension and sincerity of the one offering the prayer and not on the status of the one leading the prayer.

 

[Asja]

Assalamu allaicum wa raahmatullah wa baarakatuhu

Astagfirullah, La hawla wa la kuwata illabillahi. This is the first time I hear calling one man like " holy" in Islaam, Astagfirullah. That is completely wrong, as we are not calling people " holy" as Christians do, but only like good and pious Muslims,and Mumins ( belivers), SubhanAllah.

Allah knows the best ones intentions, but I belive that if we are going on one place where people may do things which are out of Islaam, we should give Dawah to them about truth Islaam.

May Allah guide us all to the right path. Ameen :tti_sister:

 

[sachin4islam]

.........no comment.

Assalam Alaikum: Total posts. 707+1. This,+1 is a bonus addition. Keep upgrading the count.

 

[mahussain3]

I accpet my mistake by comparing him to pope...I apologise...
but I don't agree with brother Sachin4Islam who is calling Deobandis PEOPLE OF DEVIATED IDOLOGY ...how can u come to the conculison? they learned from men even you learend from men and even Ahle Sunnah, Salafis all learned from men. No angel came to teach them they are right or they are wrong...its our Niyyah...what ever you do just do it with pure niyyah for the sake of Allah ...

As I always say...STOP CRITICIZING EACH OTHER, ITS TIME FOR THE UMMAH TO UNITE NOT TO INCREASE THE HATRED.

 

[mahussain3]

COM'ON PEOPLE LET COME UNDER ONE BANNER of ISLAM ....

 

[sachin4islam]

I accpet my mistake by comparing him to pope...I apologise...
but I don't agree with brother Sachin4Islam who is calling Deobandis PEOPLE OF DEVIATED IDOLOGY ...how can u come to the conculison? they learned from men even you learend from men and even Ahle Sunnah, Salafis all learned from men. No angel came to teach them they are right or they are wrong...its our Niyyah...what ever you do just do it with pure niyyah for the sake of Allah ...

As I always say...STOP CRITICIZING EACH OTHER, ITS TIME FOR THE UMMAH TO UNITE NOT TO INCREASE THE HATRED.

Assalam Alaikum: Br.

I wish we share mutual Email ID's. InshaAllah we will discuss on this issue. What I say,is from my experiences which lead me to a minute scrutiny of this Sect. May I be wrong. I am always ready to accept the truth.

 

[mahussain3]

Assalam Alaikum: Br.

I wish we share mutual Email ID's. InshaAllah we will discuss on this issue. What I say,is from my experiences which lead me to a minute scrutiny of this Sect. May I be wrong. I am always ready to accept the truth.

Its not the matter of being right or wrong ...its a very serious matter which is dividing Ummah ...Why don't we come to the common terms and try to establish peace between us and try to work to unite this Ummah ...

But no one in this world is having time for this but yes they do have to point out each other's mistake, to say that they are doing wrong, they are Kaafirs etc ...:astag:

May Allah(SWT) grant us Aql-e-saleem and grants us all Jannatul-Firdausa, Aameen ...


NOTE: I'm not a Scholar, this are just my opinions, I may be wrong I do accept it if I am ..but seriously I feel very dejected when I see our scholars blaming,pointing or saying kaafirs to the scholars of other sects ...why don't we seriously try to establish peace and try to unite this Ummah ...

 

[sachin4islam]

Assalam Alaikum: Br. I usually pray at a Salafi Masjid. But I do not label myself as Ahle-Hadith. They taunt me if I pray at other Masjids. I ignore and pray at other Masjids also. I read in Holy Quran that our Deen is Islam and we are Muslims. I did not read any of such word as Deobandi-Islam,Ahle-Hadith Islam...etc.

When I called my wife to Islam,did I call her to Prefix+Islam?. No,I called here towards only Islam"The Deen of Allah". Even if I make Dawah to a Non-Muslim beyond my family I invite He/She to Islam and not to a sect.

 

[mahussain3]

Assalam Alaikum: Br. I usually pray at a Salafi Masjid. But I do not label myself as Ahle-Hadith. They taunt me if I pray at other Masjids. I ignore and pray at other Masjids also. I read in Holy Quran that our Deen is Islam and we are Muslims. I did not read any of such word as Deobandi-Islam,Ahle-Hadith Islam...etc.

When I called my wife to Islam,did I call her to Prefix+Islam?. No,I called here towards only Islam"The Deen of Allah". Even if I make Dawah to a Non-Muslim beyond my family I invite He/She to Islam and not to a sect.

Wa'alykum as salam brother,

Masha-Allah nice to hear your words ..!!!
May Allah(SWT) helps you and makes things easy for you and may you be the Zariyah of many to embrace Islam, Aameen...
ALL THE BEST

 

[dunno]

Yes you are right our ummah must not be divided. but staying away from sects that practice shirk or bid'ah is not a luxury it is a necessity.

 

[ShahnazZ]

Assalam Alaikum: Total posts. 707+1. This,+1 is a bonus addition. Keep upgrading the count.

Wa alaikum assalam. I know! I was thrilled when it reached 700 and still going strong! Thanks for the shout out. Can't wait till I reach 1000....

I accpet my mistake by comparing him to pope...I apologise...
but I don't agree with brother Sachin4Islam who is calling Deobandis PEOPLE OF DEVIATED IDOLOGY ...how can u come to the conculison? they learned from men even you learend from men and even Ahle Sunnah, Salafis all learned from men.

He's just calling it like it is. If it walks like a duck, if it talks like a duck, what do you think that makes it? Yes they learned from men and so did we but the difference between us and them is that the man we learned from was the Messenger of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala. Are you saying the man they learned from holds equal rank?

its our Niyyah...what ever you do just do it with pure niyyah for the sake of Allah ...]

"Pure intentions" are usually the reason behind bid'ah as well. You can have the best of intentions and be on the wrong path. There's a saying that states that "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions". Basically, your intentions don't mean anything if you are guiding people away from the True Path. Whether this is done intentionally or unintentionally, that remains to be seen and serves as a factor for the judgment of these people. Additionally, we HAVE been told that on the Day of Judgment there will be 73 sects within Islam. It's not hard to see that Deoband Islam is one of these sects.

Don't believe me? Check it out for yourself.

Are Deobandis part of Ahlus Sunnah? Are they within the folds of Islam?

Praise be to Allaah.

The Deobandis are one of the groups of Muslims. This group is connected to and named after the University of Deoband – Dar al-Uloom – in India. It is an intellectual school of thought that is deeply rooted, and everyone who graduated from that university was influenced by its academic characteristics, so that they became known as Deobandis.

The University of Deoband was founded by a group of Indian ‘ulamaa’ (scholars) after the British had put a stop to the Islamic revolution in India in 1857 CE. Its establishment was a strong reaction against western advancement and its materialistic civilization in the Indian Subcontinent, aimed at saving the Muslims from the dangers of these circumstances, especially when Delhi, the capital, had been destroyed following the revolution and the British had taken full control of it. The scholars feared that their religion might be assimilated, so Shaykh Imdaadullaah al-Muhaajir al-Makki and his student Shaykh Muhammad Qaasim al-Nanatuwi, and their companions, drew up a plan to protect Islam and its teachings. They thought that the solution was to establish religious schools and Islamic centers, thus al-Madrasah al-Islamiyyah al-Arabiyyah was established in Deoband as a center for Islam and Sharee’ah in India at the time of British rule.

The most prominent figures of this intellectual school:

1- Muhammad Qaasim

2- Rasheed Ahmad al-Kankoohi

3- Husayn Ahmad al-Madani

4- Muhammad Anwaar Shah al-Kashmiri

5- Abu’l-Hasan al-Nadvi

6- Al-Muhaddith Habeeb al-Rahmaan al-A’zami

Thoughts and beliefs

With regard to basic tenets of belief (‘aqeedah), they follow the madhhab of Abu Mansoor al-Maatreedi.

They follow the madhhab of Imaam Abu Haneefah with regard to fiqh and minor issues.

They follow the Sufi tareeqahs of the Naqshbandiyyah, Chishtiyyah, Qaadiriyyah and Saharwardiyyah with regard to spiritual development.

The thoughts and principles of the Deobandi school may be summed up as follows:

- Preserving the teachings of Islam and its strength and rituals.

- Spreading Islam and resisting destructive schools of thought and
missionary activity.

- Spreading Islamic culture and resisting the invading British culture.

- Paying attention to spreading the Arabic language because it is the
means of benefiting from the sources of Islamic sharee’ah.

- Combining reason and emotion, and knowledge and spirituality.

See al-Mawsoo’ah al-Muyassarah fil Adyaan wal Madhaahib (1/308).

Because the Deobandis follow the Maatreedi madhhab with regard to belief (‘aqeedah), we have to define what al-Maatreediyyah is:

This is a philosophical (kalaami) group which is named after Abu Mansoor al-Maatreedi. It is based on using rational and philosophical proof and evidence in disputes with opponents from among the Mu’tazilah, Jahamiyyah and others to establish the truths of religion and Islamic ‘aqeedah (belief). With regard to sources, the Maatreediyyah divide the bases of religion into two categories depending on the source:

1 – Divine or rational: these are matters which are established independently by reason and the reports follow that. This includes issues of Tawheed and the Divine attributes.

2 – Legislative matters or transmitted reports, These are matters which reason states may or may not exist, but there is no way to prove rationally that they exist, such as Prophethood, the torment of the grave and issues of the Hereafter. It should be noted that some of them regarded Prophethood as coming under the heading of rational issues.

It is obvious that this is contradictory to the methodology of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah, because the Qur’aan, Sunnah and consensus of the Sahaabah are the sources of guidance in their view. This is in addition to their bid’ah (innovation) of dividing the sources of religion into rational matters vs. transmitted reports, which was based on the false notion of the philosophers who assumed that the religious texts contradict reason, so they tried to mediate between reason and the transmitted reports. This led them to force reason into fields where it has no place, so they came up with false rulings which contradicted sharee’ah, and that led them to say that they did not know what the texts mean and that only Allaah knows their meaning, or to misinterpret them altogether. In the view of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah, on the other hand, there is no contradiction between sound reason and the sound transmitted reports.

See al-Mawsoo’ah al-Muyassarah fi’l-Adyaan wa’l-Madhaahib al-Mu’aasirah, 1/99

Attitude of Ahl al-Sunnah towards the Maatreediyyah

It was narrated from the Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) that this ummah would split into seventy-three sects, all of which would be in the Fire apart from one. The Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) explained that the saved group is the Jamaa’ah, which is the group that follows the same path as the Messenger SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and his Companions.

Undoubtedly Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah, who adhere to the Qur’aan and Sunnah in terms of both knowledge and actions, are the saved group, and this description applies to them, i.e., they adhere to that which the Messenger SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and his Companions adhered to in terms of knowledge and actions.

It is not sufficient for an individual or group merely to claim to belong to the Sunnah whilst going against the methodology of the salaf, namely the Sahaabah and Taabi’een. Rather it is essential to adhere to their methodology in knowledge, action, approach and spiritual development.

The Maatreediyyah are one of the groups whose opinions include true and false views, and some things that go against the Sunnah. It is known that these groups vary with regard to the truth, how near or far they are; the closer they are to the Sunnah, the closer they are to the truth and the right way. Among them are some who went against the Sunnah with regard to basic principles, and some who went against the Sunnah with regard to more subtle issues. There are some who refuted other groups who are farther away from the Sunnah, so they are to be praised with regard to their refutation of falsehood and what they have said of truth, but they have overstepped the mark in so far as they have rejected part of the truth and gone along with some falsehood. So they have refuted a serious bid’ah by means of a lesser bid’ah, and refuted falsehood with a lesser form of falsehood. This is the case with most of the philosophers (ahl al-kalaam) who claim to belong to Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah…”

(From the words of Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah, al-Fataawa, 1/348).

There remains one important question to be answered, which is: what is our duty towards the Maatreediyyah and groups who hold similar beliefs such as the Deobandis and others?

The answer varies according to differences in the persons involved.

If someone is stubborn and propagates his bid’ah, then we must warn others about him and explain where he has gone wrong and deviated. But if he does not propagate his bid’ah and it is clear from his words and actions that he is seeking the truth and striving for that purpose, then we should advise him and explain to him what is wrong with this belief, and guide him in a manner that is better; perhaps Allaah will bring him back to the truth. This advice is included in the words of the Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “Religion is sincerity (or sincere advice).” We [the Sahabah] asked, “To whom?” He said, “To Allaah and His Book, and His Messenger, and to the leaders of the Muslims and their common folk.”

(Narrated by Muslim, 55).

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So as you can see, Deobandis started out with the best of intentions. Look what happened. Understand that bid'ah is a serious trial and fitnah in our time. It should be dealt with severely because such an abundance of bid'ah is precisely what leads to the formation of other religions.