Sunnis and Shi'ites
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The "Muslims" who fight each other are wrong. And, the "Muslims" who do nothing to help stop the fighting (don't worry, even Du'a would help) are even worse.
Allah says that there should be "no compulsion in religion", and also "And do not kill yourselves (nor kill one another)". Allah also says "The servents of the Most Gracious are those who walk on the earth in humility and when the ignorant address them, they say 'Peace!'".
What these so-called "Muslims" do are clearly against the Qur'an. They aren't Muslim. It's unfortunate that many "Muslims" still do this stuff even when they are presented with the Qur'an verses (that clearly cannot be misinterpreted).
I say continue to make Du'a for these "Muslims" to actually become Muslims, and for this fighting to stop and that we become peaceful again. Granted, I haven't mentioned any of this in my Du'a, but now isn't a bad time to start.
The "Muslims" who fight each other are wrong. And, the "Muslims" who do nothing to help stop the fighting (don't worry, even Du'a would help) are even worse.
Allah says that there should be "no compulsion in religion", and also "And do not kill yourselves (nor kill one another)". Allah also says "The servents of the Most Gracious are those who walk on the earth in humility and when the ignorant address them, they say 'Peace!'".
What these so-called "Muslims" do are clearly against the Qur'an. They aren't Muslim. It's unfortunate that many "Muslims" still do this stuff even when they are presented with the Qur'an verses (that clearly cannot be misinterpreted).
I say continue to make Du'a for these "Muslims" to actually become Muslims, and for this fighting to stop and that we become peaceful again. Granted, I haven't mentioned any of this in my Du'a, but now isn't a bad time to start.
Assalamu Alaykum,
Those people who do those things are a minority who are extremist. Having differences is one thing, but resorting to violence is totally against Islam
Also, please keep in mind that in places like Iraq, the coalition is fermenting hatred between once peaceful Sunnis and Iraqis. They want Iraq split so that the Shiite get the oil in the South, the Kurds the oil in the North and leave the Sunnis with nothing.
In Lebanon it is the Shia who are being pumped with money from Iran and Syria who are doing bad things.
The issues with violence in the 20th century, if you look at them carefully have much to do with politics and power.
With regards to the shites and their beliefs, they are clearly wrong and misguided. They commit the worse sins such as Shirk, which is associating partners with Allah.
Please See here for Further Details about Sunni and Shia, answer put below
Assalamu Alaykum,
I do not remember reading the quote that you gave above on this website. Perhaps someone said that, i do not know. Its not something i have seen. But, it is not wrong either!
The admin and moderators here try their best to present Islam according to the clear teachings of the Quran and the authentic Sunnah.
Everything we do in Islam must have evidence for it, from the Quran and The Authentic Sunnah.
So yes it is one for Sunnis, but anyone who has a clear mind and looks to the sources of Islam will find everything presented here compatible with their beliefs as a Muslim inshaAllah.
Our main aim is not to discuss other sects, if something is going against the basic tenants of our faith, the thread is normally deleted. The site is not a free speech website. Islam is something that must be followed according to the original teachings, not someone elses ideas or incorrect beliefs made from astray teachers etc.
Shiite differ in that they go into extremes for their love for some Companions of the Prophet and they go into extremes in hatred of the companions. They make false accusations and evil statements about the Companions.
They say bad and evil things about Aisha, mother of the believers. Too horrific to even state here, they also ridicule and say bad things about Abu Bakr, Umar, Abu Hurayrah and many other companions of the Prophet
.
They have their own pillars of Islam. One of them is being hating these Companions.
It is part of their Beliefs to HATE the Sahaba (companions of the Prophet) and those Muslims who love the Sahaba.
They believe in 12 infallible Imams, and they make dua, (Pray) to these people who they think are perfect.
As every Muslim should know, it is only Allah who is perfect and we must always pray to Allah alone.
They have many strange books, strange beliefs and ideas. From one extreme there are Ismaili Shia who have incorrect belief in God, who believe they do not need to pray, and who think drinking alcohol is not a problem etc. There are others who believe that Ali(RA) is more important than the Prophet ....The Ulema have said that these people are not Muslim.
Shia do a lot of Shirk (Associating partners with Allah), they visit Graves in Kerbala and all over the world......lamenting and praying to the dead for help.
Shia also have belief in Mutah, (Temporary marriage). They believe that a man can marry a woman for a short period of time and then dump her. That a man can keep doing such things. The Prophet clearly forbid this in many hadith.
and also they believe in Tuqyah (lying about their beliefs). So, if you ask them if they do any of this, they will say no. Although, in private and between themselves they talk about it... and when they get angry they will say the most awful things about the companions and about Muslims.
When they pray, they also pray differently. One of their many deviant ways of prayer is to slap their knees before giving the Salam, this is as a curse against the companions of the Prophet.
Personally i have seen and met Shia who say bad things about the companions of the Prophet, this should be enough to deter anyone from being with them.
I have even been to Druze (shia sect) villages. These people believe in reincarnation, they have their own religious books and even believe their founder was a prophet. They believe that he is Part of God - so clearly, these people are not Muslims. There are varying types of Shiites, but they all are incorrect as they do Shirk, bidah, hold onto various supersticions and lie, curse the companions of the Prophet Muhammad.
Unfortunately they are Hadith rejectors, they do not believe in any of mainstream Islam. They would rather favour their fabricated and lurid books over those of wonderful words of our Prophet
They say they love the Ahlul Bayt, but this is far from the truth. For if they loved the family of the Prophet they would not hate Aisha, nor would they hate the Prophet's companions.
We can not say that an individual Shia from mainstream shiism is a non-Muslim, but as a group their beliefs can take people outside of Islam.
Bottom line is, if you know about Islam. We are talking Pure Islam, as based on the Quran and Sunnah, with clear understanding of Tawheed, then you will be able to see their mistakes clearly. For example when they say Ya Ali, or Ya Mehdi, etc....... These are clear statements of Shirk (associating partners with Allah),
Ya means "Oh" and is used when you call upon someone. This is Ok if we say Ya Allah (Oh Allah), or Ya Rabb (oh Lord).. and it is also ok if we use it in a slightly different context by calling a friend or someone alive to come over to us or to listen to us, so i might say to you Ya Lana "Oh Lana ... please read".
However, we definitely do not use this to call upon the dead, for the dead can not hear or aid us in any way.
We can only say Ya in our prayers to Allah the almighty.
Read More about Shiites here.
As for the Ahmadiyya, they are definitely not Muslims. This is because they believe in another Prophet, some Indian guy called Ghulam Ahmad, and they have a lot of beliefs that throw them outside of Islam. Ahmadiyya are not Muslim:
Read About Qadiani / Ahmadiyya and Why they Are Not Muslims
Of course, having said these differences, there is no room in Islam for anyone to go into violence or attack other people. This is unjustifiable and should never be done by anyone. What is needed is for the people (their scholars and leaders) to actually sit down and talk together in a civillised and Islamic way.
Wasalam.
-----------------
My advice to you is to learn the true teachings of Islam from the basics:
Fundamental Beliefs in Islam Tawheed and Aqeedah
Introductory Articles About Islam
Those people who do those things are a minority who are extremist. Having differences is one thing, but resorting to violence is totally against Islam
Also, please keep in mind that in places like Iraq, the coalition is fermenting hatred between once peaceful Sunnis and Iraqis. They want Iraq split so that the Shiite get the oil in the South, the Kurds the oil in the North and leave the Sunnis with nothing.
In Lebanon it is the Shia who are being pumped with money from Iran and Syria who are doing bad things.
The issues with violence in the 20th century, if you look at them carefully have much to do with politics and power.
With regards to the shites and their beliefs, they are clearly wrong and misguided. They commit the worse sins such as Shirk, which is associating partners with Allah.
Please See here for Further Details about Sunni and Shia, answer put below
Assalamu Alaykum,
I do not remember reading the quote that you gave above on this website. Perhaps someone said that, i do not know. Its not something i have seen. But, it is not wrong either!
The admin and moderators here try their best to present Islam according to the clear teachings of the Quran and the authentic Sunnah.
Everything we do in Islam must have evidence for it, from the Quran and The Authentic Sunnah.
So yes it is one for Sunnis, but anyone who has a clear mind and looks to the sources of Islam will find everything presented here compatible with their beliefs as a Muslim inshaAllah.
Our main aim is not to discuss other sects, if something is going against the basic tenants of our faith, the thread is normally deleted. The site is not a free speech website. Islam is something that must be followed according to the original teachings, not someone elses ideas or incorrect beliefs made from astray teachers etc.
Shiite differ in that they go into extremes for their love for some Companions of the Prophet and they go into extremes in hatred of the companions. They make false accusations and evil statements about the Companions.
They say bad and evil things about Aisha, mother of the believers. Too horrific to even state here, they also ridicule and say bad things about Abu Bakr, Umar, Abu Hurayrah and many other companions of the Prophet
. They have their own pillars of Islam. One of them is being hating these Companions.
It is part of their Beliefs to HATE the Sahaba (companions of the Prophet
) and those Muslims who love the Sahaba. They believe in 12 infallible Imams, and they make dua, (Pray) to these people who they think are perfect.
As every Muslim should know, it is only Allah who is perfect and we must always pray to Allah alone.
They have many strange books, strange beliefs and ideas. From one extreme there are Ismaili Shia who have incorrect belief in God, who believe they do not need to pray, and who think drinking alcohol is not a problem etc. There are others who believe that Ali(RA) is more important than the Prophet
....The Ulema have said that these people are not Muslim.Shia do a lot of Shirk (Associating partners with Allah), they visit Graves in Kerbala and all over the world......lamenting and praying to the dead for help.
Shia also have belief in Mutah, (Temporary marriage). They believe that a man can marry a woman for a short period of time and then dump her. That a man can keep doing such things. The Prophet
clearly forbid this in many hadith.and also they believe in Tuqyah (lying about their beliefs). So, if you ask them if they do any of this, they will say no. Although, in private and between themselves they talk about it... and when they get angry they will say the most awful things about the companions and about Muslims.
When they pray, they also pray differently. One of their many deviant ways of prayer is to slap their knees before giving the Salam, this is as a curse against the companions of the Prophet.
Personally i have seen and met Shia who say bad things about the companions of the Prophet
, this should be enough to deter anyone from being with them. I have even been to Druze (shia sect) villages. These people believe in reincarnation, they have their own religious books and even believe their founder was a prophet. They believe that he is Part of God - so clearly, these people are not Muslims. There are varying types of Shiites, but they all are incorrect as they do Shirk, bidah, hold onto various supersticions and lie, curse the companions of the Prophet Muhammad.
Unfortunately they are Hadith rejectors, they do not believe in any of mainstream Islam. They would rather favour their fabricated and lurid books over those of wonderful words of our Prophet
They say they love the Ahlul Bayt, but this is far from the truth. For if they loved the family of the Prophet
they would not hate Aisha, nor would they hate the Prophet's companions.We can not say that an individual Shia from mainstream shiism is a non-Muslim, but as a group their beliefs can take people outside of Islam.
Bottom line is, if you know about Islam. We are talking Pure Islam, as based on the Quran and Sunnah, with clear understanding of Tawheed, then you will be able to see their mistakes clearly. For example when they say Ya Ali, or Ya Mehdi, etc....... These are clear statements of Shirk (associating partners with Allah),
Ya means "Oh" and is used when you call upon someone. This is Ok if we say Ya Allah (Oh Allah), or Ya Rabb (oh Lord).. and it is also ok if we use it in a slightly different context by calling a friend or someone alive to come over to us or to listen to us, so i might say to you Ya Lana "Oh Lana ... please read".
However, we definitely do not use this to call upon the dead, for the dead can not hear or aid us in any way.
We can only say Ya in our prayers to Allah the almighty.
Read More about Shiites here.
As for the Ahmadiyya, they are definitely not Muslims. This is because they believe in another Prophet, some Indian guy called Ghulam Ahmad, and they have a lot of beliefs that throw them outside of Islam. Ahmadiyya are not Muslim:
Read About Qadiani / Ahmadiyya and Why they Are Not Muslims
Of course, having said these differences, there is no room in Islam for anyone to go into violence or attack other people. This is unjustifiable and should never be done by anyone. What is needed is for the people (their scholars and leaders) to actually sit down and talk together in a civillised and Islamic way.
Wasalam.
-----------------
My advice to you is to learn the true teachings of Islam from the basics:
Fundamental Beliefs in Islam Tawheed and Aqeedah
Introductory Articles About Islam
Salaam Aleikum
When I see the news, really I don't understand what reasons are Muslims fighting for
I hate this word. It is like going to be Kiyama soon.
1) Muslims have lost their identity
2) They have been influenced/controlled by some ideology leaders or groups
3) They have no morality
4) Taking a Muslim life by your hand is haram
5) Muslim can not fight a Muslim if we are believers
6) They have to keep in mind that each of us has got his own responsibility in front of Allah
We have to go back to read and understand The Q'raan and Sunah
Fahad
When I see the news, really I don't understand what reasons are Muslims fighting for
I hate this word. It is like going to be Kiyama soon.
1) Muslims have lost their identity
2) They have been influenced/controlled by some ideology leaders or groups
3) They have no morality
4) Taking a Muslim life by your hand is haram
5) Muslim can not fight a Muslim if we are believers
6) They have to keep in mind that each of us has got his own responsibility in front of Allah
We have to go back to read and understand The Q'raan and Sunah
Fahad
Wa alaykum assalam.
Brother, I do not feel that is justificable for you to generalize Muslims so. It is a contorted opinion, for there are still yet many many Muslims who love Allah (swt) His Messenger (saws) and would do anything follow them and make it to Jannah.
The media is not a good resource all the time, sometimes it takes a person to know the truth instead of believing what is seen. I am not taking sides or anything, but I have to say that there are more reasons for some things than the media can or will show you.
Only Allah (swt) knows when Kiyama (Day of Judgement) will be.
May Allah make us all strong in our Emaan that day. Ameen.
Brother, I do not feel that is justificable for you to generalize Muslims so. It is a contorted opinion, for there are still yet many many Muslims who love Allah (swt) His Messenger (saws) and would do anything follow them and make it to Jannah.
The media is not a good resource all the time, sometimes it takes a person to know the truth instead of believing what is seen. I am not taking sides or anything, but I have to say that there are more reasons for some things than the media can or will show you.
Only Allah (swt) knows when Kiyama (Day of Judgement) will be.
May Allah make us all strong in our Emaan that day. Ameen.
There is only one Islam, the Islam derived from the Quran and our beloved prophet's "hadiths." I don't believe in anything else. There should be no sectarian or racial or national differences. We are one. We are Muslim. period.
To the list mentioned above of questionable groups, I would add the "nation of Islam" in America. These are not mainstream Islam. They believe some other guy was a prophet.
I pray to the almighty to guide everybody to his true path.
To the list mentioned above of questionable groups, I would add the "nation of Islam" in America. These are not mainstream Islam. They believe some other guy was a prophet.
I pray to the almighty to guide everybody to his true path.
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