Question: The Injil.

Hajjerr

He is Dhul-Jalali Wal-Ikram
The Bible as well as the Talmud, Torah and many Gnostics were freely available during Prophet Mohammed's lifetime and it is very likely that he came into contact with people who were either knowledgable or had in their possession scriptures. After all its understood Prophet Mohammed was widely travelled. We can also assume that he knew of the Gnostics because of stories of Jesus and the clay Birds, for one example.

Salam

Dear Cariad, what you imply here is a very superficial thing to say about Quran.
If you want to understand the character of Prophet Mohamed, better inshallah read his biography, he was such a great and respectable man, the inspiration about islam was for him a very precious, truly overwhelming experience, i am sad to read from you this ideea of copy-paste that you label to him..
Style of Quran is unique: That is from the news of the unseen which We reveal to you, [O Muhammad]. And you were not with them when they cast their pens as to which of them should be responsible for Mary. Nor were you with them when they disputed. Quran 3:44, but is same message naturally, islam and monoteism.

Tawhid is the belief that God is one, Creator and with all His attributs, the single God that deserves worship, no one else is capable of answering our prayers, but Him.
No prophet, stone, priest etc. can help our way to Allah, no one bears the sins for us. Allah`s mercy is infinite and we should work for it. Since mercy is infinite, islam is also easy and clear, alhamdulillah.
I dont understand how ANYONE can avoid this concept, of Tawhid, is the root of faith, is the honorable status that only God has and is our duty to respect it.

Why is important to pray in a certain way, in a certain number of prayers ? Because on the day of Judgment you will want a fair trial for you, a fair balance so Allah ordered us a clear path so we dont say we didn`t knew what is the recipe for prayer.
Can i ask you: How did Issa, or who consider you to be Issa used to pray ? Is honest question.

Hope you will understand some day that you can love Issa while muslim.
Keep objective, inshallah, you don`t really seem so., but maybe i am wrong.
All the best.
 

Tabassum07

Smile for Allah
The Bible as well as the Talmud, Torah and many Gnostics were freely available during Prophet Mohammed's lifetime and it is very likely that he came into contact with people who were either knowledgable or had in their possession scriptures. After all its understood Prophet Mohammed was widely travelled. We can also assume that he knew of the Gnostics because of stories of Jesus and the clay Birds, for one example.

I find it simply amazing how much your answers simply assume things. You have done your full research and have read the Prophet's biography as well as the Quran before making such heavy statements, no? Provide us your proof that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) copied the Quran from Biblical literature, as you're saying. Provide us proof how an illiterate man with no contact with any Christians or Jews until 10 years after his Prophetic Mission came about could write a book containing hundreds of scientific miracles that are still baffling scientists today. And also, while you're at it, kindly research the scientific miracles in the Quran and show me where it was copied from in the Bible. Only then can we begin taking your accusations seriously.

Many of these Prophets foretold the birth, mission, death and resurrection of Yeshua but I'm not sure if as muslims you accept this fact.

Then you must read the Quran and understand fully what muslims believe and accept as fact. However, the Bible clearly states Jesus (peace be upon him) as saying that he must go for the "Alos Paraclytos" to come. (As proved in the video with the exact verse number) So who is the other prophet you guys are still waiting for, and what do you plan to do once you know who it was/is/going to be?

I have never seen proof, at least conclusive proof that these messages and revelations were changed. Although this claim is often made by muslims I do wonder if thought is ever given to the logistics of such an exercise, or even a valid reason for doing so that's before we get to God promising to protect his truth from the pens of men.

I wonder if you even paid any attention to the video I posted. Because this topic was particularly addressed. Maybe 200 Christian scholars of the Jesus seminar going through the Bible and marking how much was attributed to Christ and how much wasn't isn't enough of an exercise for you. What more conclusive proof do you require? For Jesus (peace be upon him) to come down to Earth himself and break the cross and say not to worship him?

I am aware Muslims do respect Yeshua or Jesus or even Issa if you prefer :) but I do not think, from what I have read that you really know the real Yeshua. What are his teachings that you follow in the Quran?

Again, this was all in the video - Jesus (peace be upon him) taught to pray during prostration - do you do that? He taught to give greetings of peace when meeting others - do you do that on a daily basis with all whom you meet. He taught to fast a month - do you do that? He taught to be modest in behaviour and clothing, all the pictures of Mary show her in a headscarf - do you wear that?

but there is also confusion on many points, especially if the interviewee was once a Christian, some points he made are not pertinent to many Christians and what they believe.

He has a Doctor in Divinity and that means he is knowledgeable enough in the Christian texts to put his point across. What do you mean his points are not pertinent to Christians? Again, I ask you, who is the Prophet you guys are waiting for? And if you find him, will you even *want* to follow him?
 

kashif_nazeer

~~~Alhamdulillah~~~
I Again, I ask you, who is the Prophet you guys are waiting for? And if you find him, will you even *want* to follow him?

Assalam o alaikom
Vry strong point indeed ukht,
Me and a brother were discussing about arrival of messengers and who recognise them...there is an ayah of the Qur'an in surah yasin
يَا حَسْرَةً عَلَى الْعِبَادِ ۚ مَا يَأْتِيهِم مِّن رَّسُولٍ إِلَّا كَانُوا بِهِ يَسْتَهْزِئُونَ

How regretful for the servants. There did not come to them any messenger except that they used to ridicule him.[36:30]

The jews at the time of arrival of Rasoolullah :saw: used to say that they will fight with him side by side,but when he arrived they turned back on heels.


It has always been the way,same for Masih ibn maryam alyhissalam,who was rejected by many Jews of his time.
 

Cariad

Junior Member
Salam

Dear Cariad, what you imply here is a very superficial thing to say about Quran.
If you want to understand the character of Prophet Mohamed, better inshallah read his biography, he was such a great and respectable man, the inspiration about islam was for him a very precious, truly overwhelming experience, i am sad to read from you this ideea of copy-paste that you label to him..
Style of Quran is unique: That is from the news of the unseen which We reveal to you, [O Muhammad]. And you were not with them when they cast their pens as to which of them should be responsible for Mary. Nor were you with them when they disputed. Quran 3:44, but is same message naturally, islam and monoteism.

Tawhid is the belief that God is one, Creator and with all His attributs, the single God that deserves worship, no one else is capable of answering our prayers, but Him.
No prophet, stone, priest etc. can help our way to Allah, no one bears the sins for us. Allah`s mercy is infinite and we should work for it. Since mercy is infinite, islam is also easy and clear, alhamdulillah.
I dont understand how ANYONE can avoid this concept, of Tawhid, is the root of faith, is the honorable status that only God has and is our duty to respect it.

Why is important to pray in a certain way, in a certain number of prayers ? Because on the day of Judgment you will want a fair trial for you, a fair balance so Allah ordered us a clear path so we dont say we didn`t knew what is the recipe for prayer.
Can i ask you: How did Issa, or who consider you to be Issa used to pray ? Is honest question.

Hope you will understand some day that you can love Issa while muslim.
Keep objective, inshallah, you don`t really seem so., but maybe i am wrong.
All the best.

Dear sister Hajjerr, I am sorry you feel I'm not being objective, or being superficial. Honestly I do believe your Prophet was a good and decent man, if he were not how could he command the respect of so many people? I just ask you to understand what a big ask it is of muslims to wish non muslims to accept him as a final Prophet. I have no problem with your belief in Allah as the one God, as I do believe Allah is the same God as YHWH who is my God :) even though at times it seems that the muslim interpretation of God is different. However I don't see that I should be excluded from worshiping the one God and considered an unbeliever if I do not accept Mohammed as Prophet, I do not see this as a requirement, the Jews also worship the one God YHWH and they to do not accept Mohammed, true they do not accept the Christ either.

You ask how did Yeshua pray...as I was not witness to this I can only have as reference what the Bible tells me on the subject. Which is Yeshua prayed to the father in private, seeking peace and solitude. I posted a link earlier on the Sermon on the Mount, if you read it it will tell you How Yeshua told us we should pray to God. We say the very word pray stands for P~ Praise...R~ Rejoice...A ~ Ask... Y ~ Yield.
To Praise God for his greatness, to Rejoice that we are part of his creation, to Ask that our life be lived in honour of him and to Yield our very being to his service on earth and our Soul in the hereafter. Our prayers are offered in love, as we are received in love. Apart from Prayers our daily life as a Christian should reflect our love and devotion to The Lord God in our thoughts and actions that we should forever strive to be shining examples of what God would wish us to be.

Blessings to you. :)
 

Cariad

Junior Member
I find it simply amazing how much your answers simply assume things. You have done your full research and have read the Prophet's biography as well as the Quran before making such heavy statements, no? Provide us your proof that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) copied the Quran from Biblical literature, as you're saying. Provide us proof how an illiterate man with no contact with any Christians or Jews until 10 years after his Prophetic Mission came about could write a book containing hundreds of scientific miracles that are still baffling scientists today. And also, while you're at it, kindly research the scientific miracles in the Quran and show me where it was copied from in the Bible. Only then can we begin taking your accusations seriously.



Then you must read the Quran and understand fully what muslims believe and accept as fact. However, the Bible clearly states Jesus (peace be upon him) as saying that he must go for the "Alos Paraclytos" to come. (As proved in the video with the exact verse number) So who is the other prophet you guys are still waiting for, and what do you plan to do once you know who it was/is/going to be?



I wonder if you even paid any attention to the video I posted. Because this topic was particularly addressed. Maybe 200 Christian scholars of the Jesus seminar going through the Bible and marking how much was attributed to Christ and how much wasn't isn't enough of an exercise for you. What more conclusive proof do you require? For Jesus (peace be upon him) to come down to Earth himself and break the cross and say not to worship him?



Again, this was all in the video - Jesus (peace be upon him) taught to pray during prostration - do you do that? He taught to give greetings of peace when meeting others - do you do that on a daily basis with all whom you meet. He taught to fast a month - do you do that? He taught to be modest in behaviour and clothing, all the pictures of Mary show her in a headscarf - do you wear that?



He has a Doctor in Divinity and that means he is knowledgeable enough in the Christian texts to put his point across. What do you mean his points are not pertinent to Christians? Again, I ask you, who is the Prophet you guys are waiting for? And if you find him, will you even *want* to follow him?

Hello sister Tabbassum, for some reason I do not seem to have the function to enable me to attempt to use quotes for my replies..just a blank quick reply box???? Confused.so I can only quote your post in its entirety which may make my replies to your points raised confusing to read. Apologies in advance. :)

Firstly on the implication of Mohammed copying scriptures, did I claim it as fact? No..because as you say where is the proof, it's difficult...ya to find such conclusive proof as this although as muslims you make unsubstantiated claims of Biblical corruption and changes to text when likewise it is also assumption based on things we read and thoughts people put in our heads over our lifetime. Hope you see my point here. Prophet Mohammed did have contact with Christians and Jews, first when he was about 9 or 12 he met with the Christian monk Bahira, it has to be said unless he was very advanced for his age it is unlikely he remembered much of what was said regarding Christian doctrine on this occasion, but it is said that children and young people do pick up on things and and hold information better than many adults as their brains are young and still learning all the time..not that we stop learning as adults of course, ;) but it is food for thought.

Also Khadijah Prophet Mohammed's wife had a Christian cousin Waraqh Ibn Nawfal, it was to this man Khadijah sought advice as to the nature of Prophet Mohammed's revelations. According to this article on Wikipedia, you can tell as a muslim how accurate it is. There is also other occasions mentioned where Prophet Mohammed had dealings with both Jews and Christians of the time. As we take opinions from all around us can we say conclusively that Mohammed may never have absorbed information from those around him?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad

There is also a school of thought as to what kind of Christian Khadijahs cousin Waraqah was which in itself raises further questions, some accounts say he was an Ebionite...possibly a priest even, and some say he was a Nestorian. If he was an Ebionite and they seemingly only accepted the book of Matthew, then I would think that he would have believed that Jesus was the Messiah. If so, then it does not make sense that he would suggest to Mohammed that he was the prophet like Moses in Deut. 18, which he does in a Hadith, but I'm not sure which one. Being an Ebionite he would have known that if another prophet like Moses was to come this prophet would not be an Arab even if "the Ebionites might have been a sect of Jews with Messianic overtones." The Prophet foretold in Deut. 18 would have been from the tribes of Israel. If He was a Nestorian, then he would have believed in the Trinity and would have known that Jesus was the last prophet and that the Christians were not looking for another prophet. So for Mohammed to be a Prophet for all mankind it would be known that Christians and Jews would not accept Mohammedon the basis of him being an Arab.

On the question of Mohammed being the Paraclete mentioned in John 14:16. I did not mention it because I thought by now every muslim in the world must be aware of why there are many reason we do not accept that this refers to Mohammed and many reasons why we know it to be referring to the Holy Siprit. So I did not see the point of going over this again. However, if its wished I can explain why it can only be the Holy Spirit.

As you believe the Quran to be the exact word verbatim of Allah himself, we have never claimed that the New Testament is directly every word of Yeshua or direct word verbatim of YHWH. We say it is an inspired work of God. As the authors penned the words under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. However the Bible is more than this, it is also a chronological historical account of the day, and a record over a 1500 year timespan (the time it took to reveal it) as opposd to 23 years for the Quran. it explains the gradual unfolding of Gods plan for mankind and mankinds growing enlightenment in the knowledge of God. Many muslims object on much of the Bible, particularly the Old Testament, as being not holy enough in language to be the will of God. Words like pornography have even been mentioned, which is a shameful lack of understanding, The world and the people in it was very different then YHWH battled for the souls of his people who were corrupted into pagan ways. The New Testament is a record of Yeshua, his birth, life, mission, earthly death and resurrection. This is foretold in prophecy by many previous prophets. It is the conclusion of Gods plan for the salvation of mankind. What else was there to add?

Regarding fasting...yes we do. We fast for Lent a period of forty days and we also fast as and when we wish or feel the need to. just because we do not make a public show does not mean we do not observe. If you read the Sermon of the mount I posted it you would know that Yeshua told us not to make a show of fasting, praying or charitable works these things are between oneself and God. Clothes...does clothes maketh the man...or woman.. Do you think our prayers only reach God if we are dressed a certain way? If a poor and desperate person who does not have the means to dress modestly and only has rags to wear..do you think God in his infinite mercy would ignore their prayers? Yes Mary, wore a headscarf it was the tradition of the region of the time, it would have been odd if she had not. To respect a person, and follow a person one does not have to emulate them in every detail. It's not the outer garments that define who a person is its what's in ones heart, and as God can see into our hearts our dress is somewhat irrelevant. Except for how society dictates and our personal preferences.

We are not waiting for another Prophet, we await the return of the Messiah, the Christ, Yeshua, Jesus or as you know him Issa. :)

Peace and blessings. C x
 

Cariad

Junior Member
I also do not have the facility to thank for a post. how do you do this?

Anyway thank you to everyone who has contributed thus far to this thread. :)
 

Tabassum07

Smile for Allah
Your posts contradict themselves - earlier you were saying there is only one version of Christianity, but now you bring up different schools which have completely opposite teachings. One school says Jesus is the Messiah, another school believes in the Trinity, some believe in another prophet to come, others do not - and still you can say these are all *one* religion. Furthermore, the Bible took 1500 years to be revealed?

Well, all I have to say is "To me my religion, and to you, yours." I'm done with this thread.
 

Hajjerr

He is Dhul-Jalali Wal-Ikram
Dear sister Hajjerr, I am sorry you feel I'm not being objective, or being superficial. Honestly I do believe your Prophet was a good and decent man, if he were not how could he command the respect of so many people? I just ask you to understand what a big ask it is of muslims to wish non muslims to accept him as a final Prophet. I have no problem with your belief in Allah as the one God, as I do believe Allah is the same God as YHWH who is my God :) even though at times it seems that the muslim interpretation of God is different. However I don't see that I should be excluded from worshiping the one God and considered an unbeliever if I do not accept Mohammed as Prophet, I do not see this as a requirement, the Jews also worship the one God YHWH and they to do not accept Mohammed, true they do not accept the Christ either.

You ask how did Yeshua pray...as I was not witness to this I can only have as reference what the Bible tells me on the subject. Which is Yeshua prayed to the father in private, seeking peace and solitude. I posted a link earlier on the Sermon on the Mount, if you read it it will tell you How Yeshua told us we should pray to God. We say the very word pray stands for P~ Praise...R~ Rejoice...A ~ Ask... Y ~ Yield.
To Praise God for his greatness, to Rejoice that we are part of his creation, to Ask that our life be lived in honour of him and to Yield our very being to his service on earth and our Soul in the hereafter. Our prayers are offered in love, as we are received in love. Apart from Prayers our daily life as a Christian should reflect our love and devotion to The Lord God in our thoughts and actions that we should forever strive to be shining examples of what God would wish us to be.

Blessings to you. :)


Salam Cariad

Islam is a complete religion, i see pieces of good in other beliefs also, but islam gathered them all and cleaned the wrongdoings. This is way is so beautiful.

If Issa prayed to God, then why christians pray to him ? This is innovation and we, as muslims, give only to Allah this status. I know you have a metaphorical explanation for this, but i also know Allah would not leave doubts and metaphors for us to be confused.

Muslims also wait for Issa`s return.

We dont see other religion more complete than islam and since we know this is the only truth, we dont put the ''interfaith'' discussions as our first priority.
This site is about calling people to islam.
I find natural that non-muslims insist in their inter-faith discussions because is something missing or something confusing in their heart..may Allah guide all people.
It is your right to choose your beliefs, of course, Allah knows your intentions and what is in your heart.

All the best.
 

Cariad

Junior Member
Your posts contradict themselves - earlier you were saying there is only one version of Christianity, but now you bring up different schools which have completely opposite teachings. One school says Jesus is the Messiah, another school believes in the Trinity, some believe in another prophet to come, others do not - and still you can say these are all *one* religion. Furthermore, the Bible took 1500 years to be revealed?

Well, all I have to say is "To me my religion, and to you, yours." I'm done with this thread.

Dear Tabassum, I am sorry you feel our dialogue must come to an end, I have enjoyed talking with you. Your replies have always been respectful and gentle and have been a pleasure to read. I thank you. :)

I think you misunderstand there is no contradiction, my reference to the Ebonite's and Nestorians were early Christian sects in existence at that time in history. I am not sure if they are still in existence today. To be a Christian by definition one has to believe in Christ that is as fundamental as muslims believing in Mohammed. As Islam is made up of various sects so is christianity as in Catholic, Protestant etc. but in common is belief in ONE God. :) On this last point we are the same , ya. :) for that fact I celebrate. X

Yes the Bible as we have it today made of Old and New Testament was about 1400 or 1500 years in revelation. This is why I feel muslims can never understand Christian and Jewish stance on the Quran, because you do not know the Bible and so do not know what you reject. What you know of the Bible is what the Quran and Hadiths tell you...maybe I'm assuming on that ya...you could all be biblical scholars !!! Before rejecting something one should understand what it is they reject. I post a link below which is worth reading if you feel you want to know the nature of the Bible as a word of God. By knowing this you will understand what you ask of a Christian to abandon their beliefs and become a muslim.

I believe God loves all those who hold him in their hearts, who worship him with sincerity and love him beyond all. Jew, Christian, Muslim or anyone else God loves us all.

Peace and blessings to you. C x
 

Cariad

Junior Member
Salam Cariad

Islam is a complete religion, i see pieces of good in other beliefs also, but islam gathered them all and cleaned the wrongdoings. This is way is so beautiful.

If Issa prayed to God, then why christians pray to him ? This is innovation and we, as muslims, give only to Allah this status. I know you have a metaphorical explanation for this, but i also know Allah would not leave doubts and metaphors for us to be confused.

Muslims also wait for Issa`s return.

We dont see other religion more complete than islam and since we know this is the only truth, we dont put the ''interfaith'' discussions as our first priority.
This site is about calling people to islam.
I find natural that non-muslims insist in their inter-faith discussions because is something missing or something confusing in their heart..may Allah guide all people.
It is your right to choose your beliefs, of course, Allah knows your intentions and what is in your heart.

All the best.

Dear Hajjerr, it is good that you see your religion as beautiful, I see mine the same way :) what are the cleaned wrong doings?

Metaphors aside, our prayers are directed to God, That is God the Father, the same God that Yeshua told us to pray to. :) we will leave it at that I feel as to attempt to explain more would be a waste of time, except to say we accept Yeshua as HE himself revealed himself to us by his actions.

It is your right and belief to accept Islam as the only truth as it is mine to disagree, how you can know this is the only truth if it is all you wish to know is a mystery. But all life is a mystery..ya. :) I don't see that interfaith discussions are anything to be feared. I see it as a means to understand each other better and with understanding comes acceptance and mutual respect. If muslims talked more about their faith and beliefs outside there own ummah then I would guess there would be less islamaphobia in the world we live in. I find it a cause for sadness when muslims are targeted by ignorant people on the basis of their religion, ignorant people who do not know of a muslims belief because for the most part they have never heard of Islam or if they have misunderstand it.

You are right this is a site calling people to Islam and maybe as I have not found God calling me to be a muslim then may hap I should not be here. :D

I have enjoyed the dialogue here though and I also wish the very best wishes to all.
Peace and blessings. C x
 

Hajjerr

He is Dhul-Jalali Wal-Ikram
Salam Cariad

This is why I feel muslims can never understand Christian and Jewish stance on the Quran, because you do not know the Bible and so do not know what you reject. What you know of the Bible is what the Quran and Hadiths tell you...maybe I'm assuming on that ya...you could all be biblical scholars !!! Before rejecting something one should understand what it is they reject.

Well this is only your feeling, based on no proof, many muslims are reverts, coming to islam after years of christianity...and even more muslims choose islam after good knowledge of other beliefs.
No matter how many exclamation points you write, truth is only one and we know it, alhamdulillah. How ? We have studied and the knowledge goes through the filter of mind and soul.
Hope you will be happy with your choices and i let you continue your search, i guess you are not interested in islam, inshallah.

All the best.

Edit:
Dear Hajjerr, it is good that you see your religion as beautiful, I see mine the same way :) what are the cleaned wrong doings?
The status of Jesus, the use of icons, cross, statues, ruling on marriage, divorce, the status of women....
 

Cariad

Junior Member
Hello Hajjerr, thank you for pointing out the "cleaned up bits".

Status of Jesus I can only go by what Jesus himself had to say on that, use of icons, statues have no relevance in religion regarding worship of God as prayers are only directed to God. The Cross, has come to symbolise a crucial event and the turning point in mankind's salvation ...for some. ;) I cannot comment on the rulings of marriage because I have not had an Islamic wedding so are not familiar with the requirements regarding religion. Do you mean the legality of marriage or the spiritual aspect? Same goes for divorce, or do you mean the secular idea of divorce in western countries which makes divorce far to easy.

As practicing Christians if they are being true to Christ's teachings would marry taking their vows before God and would not divorce. In fact Jesus taught that God had ordained marriage for one woman and one man to remain faithful to each other till death, hard task but not impossible. Status of women I do not see where Prophet Mohammed improved upon the teachings of Jesus on this subject. Jesus taught that both men and women were equal in the eyes of God, can't get better than that. Of course that does not mean that some men will see things differently and go against Gods will as they do on many topics. As God knows its mans nature to sin..

I can see if you take your criteria to judge from the Old Testament you have a different idea of what it means to be a women in Christianity. Jesus did much to improve the lot of women and taught by his example that women were every bit as worthy in Gods eyes as men.

Peace. X
 

Hajjerr

He is Dhul-Jalali Wal-Ikram
Dear Cariad,

It is no competition between Jesus and prophet Mohamed, as muslims, we recognize the teachings of Jesus, alhamdulillah.
Mohamed saws was sent with the same message that Jesus was sent, when christianity deviated away from monotheism. Jesus did not asked that we worship him or that we make from other dead people, saints.

If you will study in private islam, you will find a set of comprehensive code dealing with all aspects of human life. Yes, you are right, Jesus did much to improve the society but in islam you will see we also have practical path, the life of prophet Mohamed, sunnah, is our model.
He was the head of a family and serves as example, unlike Jesus who lived in a different way that people live. This is what i was talking about above.

You understand that there is One God, no intermediaries, symbols like icons and cross used by church are useless, sanctification of simple humans are all deviations of church.

Maybe after you read more about Mohamed saws, his life and his role, then definitely will not be much of a difference between us.

Allah says: “Say (O Muhammad): I do not ask you for any reward for it; it is nothing but a reminder to all the world.” [Sûrah al-An`âm: 90]

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “Every other Prophet was sent only to his people, whereas I have been sent to all mankind.” [Sahîh al-Bukhârî]

Wish you all the best.
 

Cariad

Junior Member
Dear Hajjerr, Christianity has never deviated away from monotheism. :) we worship ONE GOD. You really can't claim there is no competition between Yeshua's and Mohammed's teachings because you don't know what Yeshua taught.

I really don't see that much difference between us, first and foremost we both belong to the same human race. Our souls both belong to the same God and to God they will return.

Peace and blessings. C x
 
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