war????

[al-fajr]

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nothing..

 

[xSharingan01x]

i would just lyk to clear some points or i would rather say mis conceptions tht brother shringhan01 has concerning
1965war, in 1965 india attacked pakistan border just for the sake of gaining some land tht during partition came to pakistan and they end up, running back to their land and couldnt got hold of single inch and they were beaten quite badly but again bcoz of our leaders pakistan lost the war on the table but won it in the feild, and tht was enough for indians to hype abt their false win which they never had
i can imagine how things would hav get down in history books as british gov stepd in and india got cance to twist the truth yet again
as far as statistic concern i hav no prb accepting tht it can be tru after all indians are 1.2 billion nd hav stronger economy

:salam2:
Thanks for clarifying, and Yes I know that, but IMO the actual conflict goes back to Pakistan infiltrating into Indian Occupied Kashmir in order to encourage uprising against India. The plan then would be a quick military campaign against Indian military in the vicinity and gain control of Kashmir and other desired lands, because Pakistani military (rightly so) believed Indian military was not capable of deterring a Pakistani ground invasion.
So this is what I learned from my readings.

If the above is true then the Indian preemptive attack make sense (not that i justified, speaking strictly from an academic perspective).

Allahu Alam, how much truth there is to it.

lol, Brother Podoskli,
If victory is guaranteed to the 'one who drops the bomb first', then there would be no need to have a huge nuclear arsenal and also

'NO, first strike policy'. China and India both have no first strike policy.

There would be no reason for nuclear state to have mobile launch pad, under ground launch pad, sub marine based ICBM, etc etc..Much of these preparations are done to launch a nuclear weapon after being hit by one.

I can go on and on about it, but you get the picture.

Yes, I do agree with you if it's Jihad then numbers will not decide victory nor will superior weapons. This is evident if one studies the conquest led by the Sahaba (RA's).
But, the problem is the likes of Zardari and Musharaf are light years away from resembling the Sahabas in any way or form whatsoever. What kind of Jihad would they be fighting? lol
If anything, one can safely assume their intention will not be for Islam, nor will it be for Allah's cause, rather they will be fighting a political war as political actors.

P.S. What's up with all these Pakistani brothers, getting all worked up with my comments? lol Relax. I love you guys too.

P.P.S. Brother, AL FAJR, NOW I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT YOU TYPED!

P.P.P.S. Historically, United States supported Pakistan and has been its ally (of course for their own interest, mainly the cold war, actually one can argue only because of the cold war). Russia has been India's Ally. China has been Pakistan's ally due to tensions/ regional rivalry with India.

It seems though the growing closeness of India and Israel is a recent phenomena, probably from the 80s, and it's really scary!

 

[Hasana jafreen]

Say no to war

:salam2:
brothers n sisters.i am an indian n pray allah that tis war should never happen.it is not that which country is more powerful we should always think the life of ppl we are going to miss in this war.life is precious we need not waste it in this war.let peace remain in both our country.allah swt will help his ppl.

 

[al-fajr]

Edit: Im really sorry people I forget how such discussions are really no good for my temper - please excuse me.

I have nothing serious to contribute, youre missing nothing

please continue.

 

[podolski11]

:salam2:

lol, Brother Podoskli,
If victory is guaranteed to the 'one who drops the bomb first', then there would be no need to have a huge nuclear arsenal and also

'NO, first strike policy'. China and India both have no first strike policy.

There would be no reason for nuclear state to have mobile launch pad, under ground launch pad, sub marine based ICBM, etc etc..Much of these preparations are done to launch a nuclear weapon after being hit by one.

china and india no first strike policy???........like yeah rite ill believe that jz like the US......the army is jz a formality now to keep the public under control if something happens....its all bout the nuclear and hydrogen bombs now....the huge nuclear arsenal is jz to show their power to the world......the submarines are for sea purposes......the enemy can attack from the sea also and also from the skies..........but this is between pakistanis and indians not between muslims as i c it.........so even if war breaks out u can count me out cause we aint fighting for Islam and i am so not fighting to keep zardari in power....


jz look at zardari on the link...such a douchebag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkFnaFyylQ8&feature=related

 

[AlQurtubi]

brother podolski, the fight for pakistan will be the fight for islam as this land was taken on the basis of islam, doesnt matter if we are unable to implement shria on it. We CAN implement shria in it. This is the definition of Islamic land. You CANT implement shria in US or UK etc. There are hell lot of people acting on islam in pakistan, too many sister observing hijab etc etc. Enemy wont let us go brother once it captures this land. Read what happened in spain, read what happened in baghdad.

I dont know whether it will be jihad or not but these hindus deserve to be taught a lesson for now and forever. I am going to write a post about hadiths regarding indo-pak.

 

[slaveofAllah88]

aslam o alikum
First of all let me remind my muslim brothers Pakistan or India or any country always remember you are a muslim and Islam is a religion of peace ... Muslims are only allowed to defend and if india attacks Pakistan than its attacking an Islamic country and i think all muslims should protect their muslims bro and sis ... If we fight we fight for Allah (swt) not any stupid zardari ... we shud always remember ... if you fight for Islam its Jihad and its the only reason you should fight
thats it
aslam o alikum

 

[AlQurtubi]

For brother XsharinganX, Dr. Allama Iqbal has said that

Nazar ALLAH pay rakhta hay muslaman Ghaioor
Maut kia shay hay, Faqat Alam-e-Maani ka safar

In shaheedon ki diat ehle-e-Kalisa say na mang
Qadr-o-Qeemat main hain khoon jin ka haram say barh ker

(muslim always looks towards ALLAH for help, Death is just a journey to real world
Dont ask about blood of martyrs from kuffar, their blood has more value than Ka'aba
)